DaZeD Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Had it in repeat for about a day on my N91 647260[/snapback] And....Your'e still ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloeba Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I never got into electro trance/housy progressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Schlabbaduerst ROCKS ! Â I don't get @ all Full On ( in whatever new form is taking, especially made by old school artists nowadays ) and most of Euro Trance.... the rest I can take it all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rezwalker Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 1. israeli full-on 2. dark-forest 3. all koxbox stuff 4. all eat static stuff 5. almost everything from Australian scene (especially the old stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 neofolk and shoegazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 neofolk and shoegazer 647586[/snapback] whats that? Examples please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I get the music, but what I don't always get is why people like it I find some psy stuff worse than the worst clubtrance.... maybe it works if you're drunk or drugged on the dancefloor... but in that case almost anything with a 4x4 beat will do, for me anyway........ Whatever, I prefer home listening to experience good music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapinho Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I don't get folks who don't get Eat Static. Â I mean, I can even understand people don't get Texas Faggott or Venetian Snares (even though I love that madness) but Eat Static is sheer brilliance, imo. I can never ever get tired of Abduction. How can people not like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 I don't get folks who don't get Eat Static.  I mean, I can even understand people don't get Texas Faggott or Venetian Snares (even though I love that madness) but Eat Static is sheer brilliance, imo. I can never ever get tired of Abduction. How can people not like that? 647626[/snapback] its a mysterium to me as well... but its taste I guess?! If something should get the honour to be called Intelligent Dance Music, then Eat Static would be one of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakoluth Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 i do get every sort of psytrance if i do sense some thought behind it (though that is very subjective). it needs to touch me in my innermost. otherwise it's just dance music. Â the psychedelic trance i dig the most is stuff from around 1998 to 2002...the heavy, psychedelic progressive records with straight basslines like atmos' first album, or segment, zerotonine, first vibrasphere album, etc. artists that were reaching for the future back then, but still put strong goa vibes into their productions. at least, that's how i feel about it. there should be more real psy/prog hybrids! Â edit: bah this should be in the watcha dig thread actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rezwalker Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 but its taste I guess?! 647642[/snapback] exactly...for example there are few ppl who believe's Derango sound is ultimate psychedelic and for me (and not only for me) it's just a bunch of randomized noises.. so..yes it's just taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepton Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 exactly...for example there are few ppl who believe's Derango sound is ultimate psychedelic and for me (and not only for me) it's just a bunch of randomized noises.. so..yes it's just taste 647656[/snapback] sorry but your example is not a matter of taste if you say that this is random than you clearly didn't understand the music or you have chosen the wrong words to express yourself ... Â I have friends who also don't like their music ... they dislike every aspect i like ... that's what I call having a different taste ... they understand the music but don't like it ... too many layers not melodic enough, no intro - climax- outro trackstucture etc ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rezwalker Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 sorry but your example is not a matter of taste if you say that this is random than you clearly didn't understand the music or you have chosen the wrong words to express yourself ... Â 647680[/snapback] 11 years experience in trance scene are quite enough to judge clearly and to understand every style that i hear. besides that i think the topic title is "What type of Psy dont you get?" and not "analyse and judge previews posts/their knowledge/ other ppl's taste.so i prefer to stay ON topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cosmogenesis Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Rezwalker is right. He only has only tried to express and define there his view concerning this kind of music. He's perfectly free to describe it as he wants. What's wrong with that? Respect his judgement, even if you don't like someone to say bad comments about your favorite music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepton Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Rezwalker is right. He only has only tried to express and define there his view concerning this kind of music. He's perfectly free to describe it as he wants. What's wrong with that? Respect his judgement, even if you don't like someone to say bad comments about your favorite music. 647689[/snapback]  I never ever heard "random music" how can something that's random be music ? Maybe my English is not good enough or he did not express himself right that's all I'm trying to find out... It has nothing to do with someone saying bad about music I like ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rezwalker Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I never ever heard "random music" how can something that's random be music ? Maybe my English is not good enough or he did not express himself right that's all I'm trying to find out... It has nothing to do with someone saying bad about music I like ... 647704[/snapback] plz check again my post...it says "random noises" and not "random music" obviously derango isn't even music for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepton Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 plz check again my post...it says "random noises" and not "random music" obviously derango isn't even music for me 647709[/snapback] ok but I still have to conclude that you probably didn't uderstand the music cuz there is nothing random about their music or music I know off ...  once again maybe my english is not good enough, I'm talking about random : no pattern wich is something that is not objective ...   Sometimes I need to listen to a track more that once before I get it, that's when the pattern reveals itself and everything comes together. This doesn't mean that because of that I will like the track ... that's where taste comes in ...  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rezwalker Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 ok but I still have to conclude that you probably didn't uderstand the music cuz there is nothing random about their music or music I know off ... Â once again maybe my english is not good enough, I'm talking about random : no pattern wich is something that is not objective ... Sometimes I need to listen to a track more that once before I get it, that's when the pattern reveals itself and everything comes together. This doesn't mean that because of that I will like the track ... that's where taste comes in ... Â 647722[/snapback] i think yr problem is cause my example was affect derango (i know u like them)... sorry but i don't care for that..it's just MY opinion. if u want to be fair go to this thread and show the same sensitivity when ga2pir and radi6404 call's california sunshine "eurotrance or regular trance or some discopop" that's why i beleive u have problem for my example and nothing more nothing less. now can we stay On topic? Â EDIT: link corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Minimal I get into PsyTrance because it was much more maximal than the rest of the dance genres, so minimal says nothing to me. Of course I'm talking about dance not ambient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 derango is everything but 'random' imo off course, is strategically placed maddness. madness. i have never tripped so hard on any kind of substance, is like every bleep and noise was designed to trigger little neurons to explode in my brain. other 'dark'music does not do that to me... maybe thats thereal attraction to others (like me) feel to derango... that and the fact is not something you hear at 10 am with a cup of coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepton Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 i think yr problem is cause my example was affect derango (i know u like them)... sorry but i don't care for that..it's just MY opinion. if u want to be fair go to This thread and show the same sensitivity when ga2pir and radi6404 call's california sunshine "eurotrance or regular trance or some discopop" that's why i beleive u have problem for my example and nothing more nothing less. now can we stay On topic? 647728[/snapback] I know you're not going to reply cuz you will stay on topic but you're clearly not listening ..  I never understood why ppl use the term random to express their taste since something random can not be music imo and indicates that one didn't understand what he was listening too ... + taste is objective patterns are not  maybe my definition of muisic is wrong or my english is not good enough ...  All I'm trying to find out is why ppl use that term ...wether it be for venetian snares, derango, emuna or whoever ...  I still don't know btw  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drosophila Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 derango is everything but 'random' imo off course, is strategically placed maddness. madness. i have never tripped so hard on any kind of substance, is like every bleep and noise was designed to trigger little neurons to explode in my brain. other 'dark'music does not do that to me... maybe thats thereal attraction to others (like me) feel to derango... that and the fact is not something you hear at 10 am with a cup of coffee 647732[/snapback] I never understood why ppl use the term random to express their taste since something random can not be music imo and indicates that one didn't understand what he was listening too ... + taste is objective patterns are not 647734[/snapback] I think u r both right (if its possible to be that ) but in ears it seem like the nail has been hit on it head.... if u experience something as random it must be because u have no clue or just dont get what its about so..... Rezwalker just dont get Derango.... simple as that if he did he would not call it random.... cus then he would have found the patterns  I might be wrong just trying understand why anybody would call any music random....   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeller Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 well most of the time i don't liek progressive.. some i really like, especially Jaïa and Ticon..  also i didn't understand the finnish hype, but now i downloaded some great stuff and i realised you had to find the good ones..  for the rest, i understand all the others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Dark/Forest nonsense, cheesy Israeli full-on (Com.pact/Utopia stuff) Some Israeli Prog-On, A lot of current Progressive Psy totally bores me. 647018[/snapback] Same here, the genres suck bit time and i don´t ge them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rezwalker Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I might be wrong just trying understand why anybody would call any music random.... 647740[/snapback] it's simple: if some1 has poor music knowledge then there is only 1 way for him..to compose tracks with randomized noises bcause he can't compose music with CONSISTENCE (e.x kindzadza, parasense, fungus funk, derango, psykovsky etc etc)..so when i call derango as untalended cause of their randomized noises it's about that! with that logic we can start hit some casseroles and we are ready to baptism that as "music"! writting tracks with consistency is too difficult for someone with poor music knowledge..just look around for examples (especially from old school)..almost all legendary's have music knowledge (synth,piano,guitar etc etc) nowdays everyone gets Reason and FL and he think he makes music..(the top reason for the psytrance death nowdays close with label's fault) so everyone knows how much easy is to make some noises covered by a kick..but that not means they are artists and they deserve our respect....so i have the right to call them untalended "artists"...and know what? that's not affect other styles imo..not even full-on..full-on is crap but u can hear a clear bassline..a clear kicks..and some clear samples.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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