Guest Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 can someone explain the differences of the sub genres of trance? the ones that I know of: progressive trance psy trance goa trance are there more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 we should have this pinned up... It's to much to expain now.... it' takes 2 pages to expalain that If i should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 on your left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 my left shoulder is on the left, but it's not bein very helpful in this matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 in really simple terms... goa is the old-school sound... you know hallucinogen - lone deranger type-o-stuff with the really intense mellodies. psy trance is a marketing scheme to diff the new sound, you know full on, dark, light, sweet, black, white, red... whatever... proggressive sounds more like house... very rythm based, congas, slower... danceable... i dunno thats how i see things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 very short... old skool or goatrance is all goa created before 1999... it's mostly melodic and hasn't got a strong bassline... their exist old skool that is more minimal what we used to call minimal back in the days new school are artist who create goa nowdays but with the forumula of old skool back in the days.... minimal became progressive around 2000 - 2001.... pure bassline no melodies but progressive evolved into more melodic progressive like we experience progressive today.... fullon has also been old skool... the first fullon artist like xerox, freeman, talamasca created fullon < 2000 that was just goatrance but faster and more melodic... fullon evolved too ... in the year 2003 a new forumula arrived what would chance the psy scéne forever.... fullon became a style on its own and nowaydays almost all melodic is fullon... very strong bassline.... typical bassline you recognize directly... fast melodic psy sound and a big climax at the end... psytrance started late 1999 coming up... also melodic but the didn't start directly with waves but more psychedelic little sounds and a big climax at the end.... 1993 - 1999 = goatrance was mainstream 2000 - 2002 = psytrance was mainstream 2003 - 2005 = fullon is mainstram I could write a thousand pages about this evolution I experienced but this should help you out I must say nowdays all the subgenres are getting together... the newschoolers are creating harder goatance basslines... Fullon artist use progressive elements... Progressive artist use more melodic elements... it's started... all subgenres are coming together and let's hope quality is the end... within 5 years all those subgenres will be almost gone and only good and bad goa will exist imo... EDIT : if you want examples from sub genres cause you don't know just PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpångul Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I dont give a damn about what genre some music is divided into... I listen to everything that sounds good even tho fullon is 99% crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I dont give a damn about what genre some music is divided into... I listen to everything that sounds good even tho fullon is 99% crap... 319348[/snapback] if you would give a damn that 99% wouldn't be 99% anymore... there's lots of progressive, goatrance that is nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolsk Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 1993 - 1999 = goatrance was mainstream 2000 - 2002 = psytrance was mainstream 2003 - 2005 = fullon is mainstram 319192[/snapback] Goa trance was 1993-1996, there after it was psy-trance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Goa trance was 1993-1996, there after it was psy-trance. 319659[/snapback] I don't agree directly... 1998 is goatrance and psytrance... but 1997 is goatrance imo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolsk Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I don't agree directly... 1998 is goatrance and psytrance... but 1997 is goatrance imo... 319684[/snapback] I can stretch my view and say that 1997 is a transition year, but 1998 is definitely psy-trance. In my opinion TIP Records Phosphorescent compilation (1996) marked the beginning (or mainstrem use) of psy-trance and the following death of goa trance. Check the compilations from 1997: Psynews compilation reviews 1997 The major labels all released psy-trance 1997: 3D, Airborn, Black Rhino, Funk, Let It Rip, Made On Earth, TIP Singles 1-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 true... well it's difficult to create boundaries I just tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I thought genres defined a sound. this thing with the year bounderies makes it just too difficult. if possible... suggests me some songs that define each genres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Milk Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 psytrance surfaced and it diverted from old school goa with releases like x-dream-radio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmtree Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 i love x-dream - radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 suggests me some songs that define each genres. 319894[/snapback] tomorrow it's to late now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Astro Cortex Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Goa trance and psy trance were exactly synonymous until ~1997, during that time some stuff was released that could not be classified as pure Goa trance anymore as the sound had evolved a bit from the original Goa sound. But whether something can still be called Goa or not, isn't clearly defined and is therefore a very subjective thing. Example: Koxbox - Dragon Tales. Goa/psy or just plain psy? X-Dream's Radio I'd just call psytrance as it evolved quite far from goatrance already. It's still "old psy" IMO but was for sure an inspiration for the "minimal/progressive" style that emerged in 1999 and became a significant psy subgenre in the following years. Full on is a different story. During the old days (~<2000) full on wasn't as clealy defined (reason: not as formulaic) as it is nowadays. At last, the obligatory: "F*ck categorizing, it's all music" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 What's Nitzhonot? That's one thing I've seen around the place here and have nfi what it means. Where did the term come from and what defines it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 What's Nitzhonot? That's one thing I've seen around the place here and have nfi what it means. Where did the term come from and what defines it? 323458[/snapback] Hello, a while back i was also wondering about this, so i created a topic: http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26152&hl= and there are all the answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Goa trance and psy trance were exactly synonymous until ~1997. Naaah, they were synonymous until 1999 as Rain said... Example: Koxbox - Dragon Tales. Goa/psy or just plain psy? Pure plain psy for sure...their first album was more goa influenced... 320681[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepdrone Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 is there a genre " tribal trance " there should be .. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 if you would give a damn that 99% wouldn't be 99% anymore... there's lots of progressive, goatrance that is nice 319355[/snapback] yeah, i give a damn, because 99% IS crap.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 if I put music it subcategories, it would be something like this: Psychedelic Ambient: -With a beat/rhytm ---Trance-ambient (old Asura, Aes Dana,... so with a 4/4beat) ---Dubby ambient (like OTT, some LSD releases,...) ---Typical psychedelic ambient (Entheogenic, most Ultimae Records,...) ---World/Tribal ambient (last shpongle, makyo,...) -Without a beat ---Experimental (Ollie Olsen/Biosphere style) ---Atmospheric (New age style) Goa Trance (old school) -Acid Trance (303 drenched melodic psychedelic music, style Green Nuns, mindfield) -Nitzhonot (übermelodic, happy simple Israeli goa trance) -Night Style (dark very psychedelic but still melodic music, UX, Slide,...) -Morning style 'typical goa trance' (MFG, Astral Projection, Power Source,...) -Tribal Goa Trance (with lots of tribal influences, Bodh Gaya, Sonic Fusion....) New school: -Same as above, but with better production and some different influences Dark psychedelic Trance -Minimal style (very straightforward aggressive, like Parasense, Kindzadza,...) -Very psychedelic furious style (Grapes of Wrath, Scatterbrain) -Forest style (Mostly Swedish stuff with melodies combined with forest sounds, Ka Sol, Derango,...) -South African (typical style, for some this would fit in the full on section tho) Full On -Dark (Dark music made with the typical full on bassline and noises, Rinkadink) -Typical Full On (well, Astrix, Delirious,...) -Melodic full On (old school influenced - Electric Universe, Misted Muppet,...) Progressive -Housy (rather slow clubby, groovy music, like Son Kite,...) -Not Housy (most older progressive, like Atmos, Medijum releases) -Melodic Progressive (progressive beats with old school influenced melodies, Soul Surfers, Blue Vortex,... sometimes close to full on) Psytekk -Hard and very dry music, concentrates on rhytm only (Spirralianz, Delta,...) Suomi/Australia/experimental trance -Typical Suomi/Australian style (hard to describe... listen! Texas Faggot,Shango,...) -Experimental (psychedelic music mixed with Jazz,breakbeats,...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniël Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Progressive -Housy (rather slow clubby, groovy music, like Son Kite,...) -Not Housy (most older progressive, like Atmos, Medijum releases) -Melodic Progressive (progressive beats with old school influenced melodies, Soul Surfers, Blue Vortex,... sometimes close to full on) 338249[/snapback] add -dark psychedelic progressive (Procs, ghreg on earth) please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 add -dark psychedelic progressive (Procs, ghreg on earth) please 338252[/snapback] I would file them under Dark Trance... in the minimal style, or some in the Forest style (specially Procs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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