JiM Cheese

When they wrote that track they called it Gift from the Gods but thought it sounded a bit egotistical hence changed the title. Mark

Don't forget Chakra and Edi Miss - The Promised Land Jim

TRIP? Great site ran by really nice guy (Jason C + Crew) whom I had the pleasure to meet a time or two. Those guys put on some great parties in London too. I remember dropping a tape of just completed Spores from Space round to Jason's house (his memorable mum answered the door IIRC!) and he said after he finally played it that it was a bit too fast tempo for his stylee. Well done Jason. Mark

but there must be some time when when this kind of music fits. not for ones everyday/regular listen. Dancefloor. Or driving fast. Mark

The track was created and arranged by Bilbo. (He is a guitarist). Jim

Opening and widening up the debate a bit more. People may have changed but another thing that has changed is that there is greater proliferatin of internet access, fast bandwidth and, as soon as an album is released, it becomes available for downloaded for free on the internet within a day or so. So what you have now is a potential situation whereby artists (whom can put 12 -18 months of studiowork into an album) release work only to have the majority of people take it for free. (and some even then moan about the content ). This is reflected in the poor sales numbers of CD's and the general lowering of standards. So given this situation do you think that, in general, will artists (some of whom whom rely totally upon music to support themselves and family) is going to keep pandering to the home listener and CD sales in specialist small markets groups? a lot of whom will keep taking work for free....... or is he going to showcase and shape his music to appeal to live gigs/festivals where he actually gets paid? I'm not sure I know the answer to this conundrum. What I do know is that to me this album is uplifting and stong, shades Synergy imho and _currently_ my favourite track is track 2 however tracks 1,3,4,8 are contenders too. Jim

Maybe Think of the bladder as being full of charis smoke and they are sucking rather than blowing? Love your sig Abasio Jim

Time/date has to be considered when evaluating music. Things do change and evolve. In the early 90's there was not a lot around that sounded lke his stuff. To use a ridiculous extreme to prove a point; If I played you some original medieval minstral music and asked for an opinion I'm sure it would be derided as good music - but at the time it was probably much appreciated. Mark :clapping:

Antic, I'm v. suprised you think that mate. IMO it comes very close if not shades Synergy (just). I know this is a bold opinion but that's how I see it. I've not been hugely impressed overall with Trancendance, Contact or Intergalactic in as much as they were a bit patchy with some solid content but no where near as good overall as Synergy. However the new release has some outstanding content and is very strong throughout. There are no silly samples imo. There are some awesome samples. I do like a driving percussion and bass and I'm a sucker for melodies and good key changes and rising creshendo's - maybe that's where we differ? There are at LEAST 4 monster tunes on this album; Cosmic Dance Spanish Gyspy The Other Side Journey of the Soul Creature from Outer Space is wacky but great. The other tracks are very solid, display good variety and "outside the box" in a detail or two. I'm not saying anything else because of the blood relationship and objectivity. Regards Mark

""Mister Mark, did you ever do any other trax than spores from space? that track is absotely insane and one of the very peaks of pietrance in my opinjon. thank you. "" Blimey Oopie you have a good recollection of track credits. Forgive me if the next lot of text is a bit indulgent but I I'll explain why I cannot take any real credit from this track. Let me say right away that that track is all Cosmosis. I was literally the studio tea bitch. We agreed to do a track together which basically was me in the studio lots of hours over about 3 weeks with Billy generating and engineering everything. First of all, iirc Bill gave me a few kik sounds and asked for opinions so we set the kik and bpm and ditto the bass and got a groove going which was Bill setting it all up (I don't even know how to turn on the lights in the studio). Then he made lots of effects and sounds after I tried to explain verbally which sounds/effects I liked in driving psy then HE produced these sounds and I only said which ones sound "good". The metallic percussive sounds in the begining of the track were produced by almost by accident. (Trying to explain abstract noises is quite hard). He had some vocal samples of someone sounding very earnest re lsd that he had taped which sounded like they were begging to be incorporated into a psy track ......and the idea of "spores from space" was arrived at after we discussed (took the piss more like) of the theory that the original spores from magic mushrooms had floated across space and arrived into earth - an alien drop (do you hear the splash at the beginning of the track? and the cheesy alien space-ship effect? well that's the alien space ship dropping off a phial of magic mushroom spores to spash down on earth). The working title of the track was "Mushroom Magellan". Then track was then assembled and mastered from the sum of parts chosen - rather like pick and mix - Then there were numerous mixes produced which were tweaked, more loops added, loops shortened, structure of track slightly arranged and then re-arranged, peaks moved, peaks extended etc etc. To be honest it was like an opportunity to express some ideas and have someone draw it out for you - in other words anyone could do what little I did - the clever bit is interpreting the idea's and actually getting them engineered down - none of which I can do. It was an opportunity that if given I'm sure most people would like to take it up. (Have free and unrestricted use of an engineer and musician to try express an idea or two). One observation I have is that it is ironic that with electronica, a common criticism is that it makes composition/music "easier" well good psy tracks can take up to a month of solid work in a studio - in other words a huge amount of time and work - albeit this can be more accessible now in a bedroom. Consider some more traditional musical "hits" over the years in conventional music took about 3 minutes to write and a couple of hours to put together in a studio. Howling at the Moon was just about the most studio intensive track - that track took up so much time that Cosmosis basically admitted that he could not even hear or discriminate if it was worthy of release, or any good because he became completley saturated and immune to it's effects - changing and rechanging it for what seemed to be about 6 weeks. It became a beast sucking life and time from the originator. Is that not ironic? he almost hated that track because of what it took out of him (my interpretation). The annoying thing (for me) is that the Howling version previous to the actual release was imho an even better track with an even greater peak (the melodies and effects just lifting stratosperically out of the main track and swirling around even more) but he released his last version. I wish I still had the previous version - it was a gem. Sorry I've rambled on a bit. :drama: Regards Jim

Trolsk, Antic is correct. This track (LSD) at the time just about blew me away. After a diet of acidic 303 techno and "lightweight trance" this track just revealed (to me anyway) that there were truly higher levels possible with electronica. Thank you Simon. Mark

I can exactly remember the detail but not the date (in about 1993 or 1994) asking Billy to sit down in a corner and playing him a track via headphoness (to get the true appreciation of the complex structure and immenseness of the sound) and from that moment on it seemed that his guitar just gathered dust in a corner and he dissapeared into his electonic studio for long periods of time. lol. Never thought he would still be at it over 12 years after. Jim Cheese.

Martian Blues - you will either love it or maybe ignore it. Samples out do not convey what a maniacal track this is. Personally, out of all the tracks, I think Spanish Gispy is the complete track of the album - possibly the best of (i.e set out to achieve it's aim - gipsy spanish influence/goa melodic trance) ..... 100% could not be improved within it composition however again, samples out there do not convey. Cheers Jim

I'll raise your query with Bill Antic, but on my set up it sounded ok? The track snippets samples are usefull.... however they do not convey the journey of the individual tracks (I've heard them all mostly over the last 6 months) and definately do not elude to the full package of the complete album. The album is like, to me, a reversal towards Synergy, (which is good) but more melodic. Jim