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Oh yes - that one sounds very interesting indeed! It has a bit of the "DarkPsy" vibe to it which I don't care for, but it's mostly prog/techno-esque which I do like (I love dark and twisted music, just not the darkpsy genre itself). I'm probably going to order this album - thanks for the recommendation!

Awesome, thanks again! I've been downloading some Iboga releases from Discogs - woo!

I've been discovering some good progressive trance these days - I've loved Atmos "Headcleaner", Beat Bizarre, and Reefer decree for a long time, and am now very happy to have found the first two albums by Phony Orphants - "Symphony" in particular is fantastic! Can anyone recommend progressive trance that is more on the twisted/uber-psychedelic side? Much of the progressive I hear, like Antix and so forth - they use very "square" sounds - not the Hallucinogen/Hux Flux/Koxbox type of sounds.. I have a couple albums by Sensient but Sensient is more like minimal psytrance type music - it doesn't have that same hypontic groove that the best progressive does so well.. In other words, alot of the progresisve I hear has a more "mainstream" or "clubby" sound to it - I want some stuff that isn't like that

Cool, thanks for the recommendations! Any idea where to buy older releases when they are sold out in the main shops?

I've been enjoying the compil "A Progress in Trance" by DJ Anti recently - this has music by Atmos, Son Kite, Vibrasphere, Logic Bomb, Phony Orphants, and the classic track "Idiot" by Hux Flux. I'm thinking I've missed some treasures of this style - the "Scando sound" - mostly Swedish psytrance of this period. I've got all albums by Hux Flux, Logic Bomb, Atmos, and Reefer Decree already. From Vibrasphere I've got "Echo" and "Exploring the Tributaries". Any recommendations of albums or compilations? thanks!

Nice to see the Suntrip/neo-generic-goa offerings didn't dominate this year ;-)

I wasn't that impressed with the Soundcloud mix that Logic Bomb posted from "The Grid" - some nice moments but kinda generic, and the melodies were kinda simple cheese style in places.. I like Logic Bomb, but their sound seems to have become progressively less psychedelic and twisted over time from Cryptic Crunch (as part of Hux Flux)-->Headware-->Unlimited-->Sonic Algebra.. I hope this new album doesn't continue that trend, though from the samples it sounds like that may be the case..

Thx again for the recommendations!

Awesome, keep 'em coming! :-) Terrafractyl - I heard the album by this artist released a couple years ago was very good stuff - was always out of stock when I tried to order it though.. Artifakt - his music is hit or miss for me - some of it is just too harsh and jarring sounding - discordant, hard to get into a nice tranced-out groove with.. Some tracks are excellent though.. Haven't heard his latest album.. Tatsu - I really like both of the Reffer Decree albums actually - the newer one, "Point of You" is more melodic, catchier type music, but it's got some depth too.. Are you talking about their first album "Soundframes"? That album is a classic for sure.. Insejn - thanks, I haven't heard of any of those artists except Loud - will look into it..

Awesome, thanks for the leads! Just checked the Hux Flux previews on Soundcloud - epic stuff - "Tarantula" is badass - Hux Flux makes the sickest melodies, so twisted and groovy.. Said on the site the new album is slated for an April 2012 released - I'm jazzed!

Someone please help me, I haven't bought a psytrance or psychill album in a couple years or so - last good one I bought was Hedonix "Order out of Chaos", which I love - stellar album.. I have no idea what's been good these past couple/few years.. What I DO like is the proper twisted psytrance style ala Koxbox, Hux Flux, Logic Bomb, Hallucinogen, Nystagmus, and older Infected Mushroom.. I like some of the progressive stuff too like Reefer Decree and Sensient.. Anything that's artistic, complex, and the sort of thing that blows your mind when you give it a good listen on headphones.. I don't care much for all these neo-goatrance acts like Artifact303, Astrancer, Laughing Buddha, Khetzel, Filteria, etc - not hearing much original there.. Don't like most of the "full-on" style productions either.. I also don't care for the "Darkpsy" style what with the pounding baselines.. So any good albums in the more so twisted psytrance style would be great - good psychill album also - I like everything Shulman and Ott have done, and much of the style on the Ultimae label.. I love my old albums but I'm beginning to feel like those people that love classic rock but not the new or "alternative" rock and so they are still listening exclusively to Led Zepellin, Pink Floyd, and all that stuff.. thanks so much!

I'm not a musician but it is my understanding that the psychedelics were used/are more for inspiration rather than being used while actually writing the music.. I bet there is a fair amount of cannabis use involved while actually sitting in the studio composing tracks though - that counts as a psychedelic - surely affects music like one, but also leaves one more "functional" in certain ways.. I could see musicians having great success with psychedelics such as LSD, Mescaline, 2C-B, etc by using a *small* dose - like 1/4 what they might take for a full experience - at low doses I would think those substances could be very valuable for music creation and they would leave one able to work the machines/computer and whatever else.. The whole class of "2C-x" phenethylamines (2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-E, 2C-C, 2C-D, etc) and "DOx" phenethylamines (DOB, DOI, DOC, DOET, DOM) I think could be very useful, because they leave the mind and ego more or less intact, while still expanding consciousness/awareness, and in a way that plays strongly on the perception of music/sound..

Awesome! Dunno what genres this would fall into but it's superb..

Epic! I have the Equinox album - great stuff - gotta get the Oxygene album then too it looks like!

I'll recommend highly The Glitch Mob "Drink the Sea" also - it was recommended by someone else in the best of 2010 thread and I think it's freakin awesome! What I love about the album is that they have these big hooks just all over the place - and I do mean big ol hooks - very catchy and the sort that get stuck in your head - melodic hooks mostly, with big slow beats and fat grooves - but it doesn't sound commercial at all to me - has a nice twinge of psychedelia to it - the whole album is like one big hook, actually, which I think is great - I like really intricate and more difficult-to-access music also, but that sort of music often doesn't deliver the feelings of euphoria and desire to groove and dance that the more melodic music does - "Drink the Sea" bring the joy for sure (despite that it's sort of moody/dark too) - lots of the tracks and melodies have a similar sound to them, a similar theme, but it's all just so rockin that I don't mind... Very much an album rather than a collection of tracks...

I don't like a lot of the dubstep I've heard at electronica parties and such - sounds like doom music for sleazy druggie type people with no sophistication.. Like there's gonna be a bunch of dudes in hoodies smoking meth on the dancefloor or something.. But "Circadian" isn't like that at all - it has dubstep elements but is quite artistic and excellent for home listening.. Have only heard it a couple times but am very impressed - good journey music - kinda mellow, hypnotic, varied, nice layers/subtlety, and with a solid psychedelic edge to it.. Some of it reminds me, in a very distant way, of Sensient - "Antifluoro" album..

Thanks everyone for the recommendations in the "The Good Stuff from 2010" topic! - I've been greatly enjoying the following albums: Nosia - Split the Atom Michael Casette - Temporarity Gonjosufi - A Sufi and a Killer Architect - Consume, Adapt, Create Hidden Orchestra - Night Walks Flying Lotus - Cosmmogramma Jack Sparrow - Circadian ---------- Psytrance/Psychill has been uninspiring to me recently so I am thirsty for artistic, trippy, and generally kickass electronica from other genres.. So, I know it's only March, but anyone have some excellent recommendations for 2011 yet?

I'm no musician but I think that making deeply psychedelic music, even dance music, with only classical symphonic instruments would be rad - Classical music composed just like back in the day, except the focus was on creating cosmic trippy arrangements instead of the typical super-square sounding stuff that most classical music is.. I'd like to see a full symphony orchestra playing some stuff that sounded like Swedish forest trance..

I didn't like the most recent album as much either - loved "Headware" for sure, and really liked "Unlimited".. Anything from the Hux Flux/Logic Bomb people is good stuff though..

Anyone who drinks caffeine, alcohol, and smokes cigarettes, but doesn't consider themselves a "drug user" is laughably ignorant.. IMO, people who use only psychedelics are less deserving of the name "drug users" than the guy who drinks alcohol and caffeine... alcohol and caffeine produce states of mind more along the lines of what people think of when they say someone is drugged than do psychedelics. It's all cultural brainwashing - they created a division between alcohol, caffeine, cigarettes on one hand, and "drugs" on the other hand. However, in reality, *no such division exists*

This track will blow your mind The builds-->climaxes are just amazing.. Melody done right proper..

Interesting discussion! Personally I love it when an artist changes their style and tries to make something that isn't typical psytrance.. I'm totally unimpressed by this whole wave of goa copycat artists like Filteria, Astrancer, Laughing Buddha, Ketzhel - pretty much all of them off the Suntrip label are producing generic goatrance.. I really like that new Alienapia album but that is about it... My only concern about a lot of regular electro and house and such is that it lacks depth and trippy-ness - couldn't they just use the beat/rhythmic structure of electro or house, but make it also really trippy and deep at the same time? Personally I don't like dancing to the psytrance beat - it's too damn fast and relentless for me - but I love the complexity of the layers, effects, and melodies - I listen to psy because a lot of other electronic music doesn't take me on a journey like psytrance and psy-downtempo do.. So I'd love to see a psytrance producer make a different genre of music, but why does house and electro or breakbeat music always seem so simple and non-trippy - can't there be like "psyhouse" or psyelectro" or whatever? If anyone can recommend some really deep trippy stuff from another genre I'm all ears!

Well maybe "shallower" or "more mainstream" would be better descriptions than "less psychedelic" - I can understand an artist wanting to try different things, but why is it so often in the direction of less complex/deep music and more in the direction of the sort of stuff that appeals to mainstream audiences?

I agree - I'm not saying that the psychedelic substances are needed for the creativity in psy music, just that, if an artist started with those as part of their inspiration, but then phases those out and just drinks alcohol, caffeine, and does stimulants/opiates/pills, their music will be less inspired by the deep cosmic realm and will start to become more mainstream focused (mainstream culture, at least here in the USA, is extremely un-psychedelic, and psychedelics are not popular)..

Some of it is really good, but there's lots of slow tracks with lots of just pad work and such ('yawnbient") - I have to be in a pretty relaxed and tuned in zone to appreciate this type of music though so I don't like this album as much as some of his earlier work..