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one of my favourites. this together with gateway eight and predator are the best ra tracks . though i do prefer the original of time current to the silver remix. the original has more focus on the main melody.

this one deservers a mention here: the music is good though. goa trance as before but with modern production like the oforia album.

feelings is among the top newschool tracks of all time. precession of the universe probably is the best original goa track of 2015. though the differences between it and others like centavra project - capsula, artifact303 - black light, the denshi-danshi track from aurora sidera and the filtertraces ep are small enough to make preferences shift within a day or so. precession of the universe has great melodies, but also ones that are bordering on cheesy (still on the right side of the border, mind you). i agree that the focus of newschool goa is different. there is more a wall-of-sound with individual melodies getting lost — the more elements you cram into the same space the easier it is to get away with generic melodies. what sets precession of the universe apart is that the melodies are memorable, even though it follows the typical newschool approach. the same is true for feelings.

after some extensive listening i can say that one is not like the others. most albums have a few good tracks, but arjuna - primal contact is great from start to finish. driving, not noisy at all and unexpectedly captivting. it's not just a stream of random fx to divert your attention (as so often the case) but everything is connected as if telling a story. once you start listening you cannot stop because have to know what comes next.

i do like these, though these tracks aren't necessarily darkpsy while we're at it, both derango as well as nibana make great chillout. thanks for the forest freaks. both dohm and schizoid bears are pretty good too.

thanks everyone for your suggestions! my favourites up to now are ursaja, arjuna and zolod with muscaria sounding fine too. @redo i'm familiar with ka-sol (and scatterbrain, great album) but not with kiriyama and fraggletrollet. the first hits on youtube are not my style and sound rather dirty. which releases/tracks would you recommend?

after years of hating that stuff, i've finally — and to my surprise — come to the conclusion that there's a lot more good darkpsy out there than i initially thought. mind you, i still hate the same things that are characteristic of darkpsy (namely the screeching, metallic fm synths and that the bassline and kick often melt into a single low hum without drive and power, also stupidly high bpms that make the kbbb sound childish. in short: anything that sounds even remotely like Highko - Who Has Won). but it seems there's a lot of darkpsy that avoids these for the most part. what i'm looking for is music with crazy fx, atmosphere, storytelling, maybe even melody with a powerful kick that's not drowned out by the bass. so basically i'm looking for tracks like these: Overdream - United Nations Vibrations (great synths, atmospheric not metallic at all, but the kick and bass lack drive), Atriohm - Close to Nowhere (Tengri Remix) (nice kick and bass, atmosphere and even some melody. only the harsh synths appear in the later parts of the track) Mark Day - Us Until The End (similar as above, but it starts out with screechy synths that disappear as the track progresses) Penta - Neurotic Call (all around good track) Soma Rasa - Halava (Tengri Remix) (same) Lunarave - Cannon Fodder (harsh intro but perfect from 2:00 onwards). as far as i understand the forest spectrum of darkpsy is more likely to fit in here?

it seems we have as many cannibals as vegans. in the future i'll be more cautious before agreeing to meet other psynewsers

those full samples are really nice. i was originally thinking of skipping this one (e-mantra's output is great but starts to sound samey after a while. i could hardly tell if i'm dealing with a track from pathfinder, nemesis or some compilation), but i have changed my mind. even if he starts exactly where he left off (and some of the melodies of foothills and typhon's wrath sound familiar) with these samples, i think we'll see more energetic music, better production with fatter, deeper basslines plus the familiar sounds and melodies we know and love on the new album (i also see the similarity with arcana here, which is my favourite e-mantra album). so while not breaking new ground, we are moving forward and this might even turn out to be his best album to date.

yeah, minimal-progressive like beat bizarre or psytek like x-dream. but also fullon (think silicon sound, early protoculture, early talamasca). it's completely different than the what we now get when is says "fullon" on the label. thankfully fullon like electro sun or alien jesus also falls into this category. the artists that are only in for the money and the psy-tourist crowds now all make futureprog.

kneel down before the silver box, ask for forgiveness and listen to acid air raid six times (three times on the first day, not at all on the second day and three times again on the third day). of course the acid sound is still relevant, but no clone has ever gotten the sound down 100%. the futureretro revolution sounds decent (which is enough for non-acid genres like psy), but so does a xoxbox and do phoscyon and abl.

it's like an updated version of inifinite justice. the only sad thing is that the whole blissdom ep, which could have been quite good, is mastered so horribly that there's distortion all over the place.

with the similarities with vini vici i mean the the "modernised" sound, progressive that's focused on loud kick and bass, rather long/many breaks and builds, but here instead of the bullshit (horrible singing, offbeat/swing/triplets just for variation, endless dubdelays, builds that lead nowhere, ...) we got nice beautiful protoculture melodies.

they (they were two people back then) were certainly there from the beginning and together with absolum and nomad defined the 3d vision sound (and therefore much of the fullon that came afterwards). indeed, the guys who founded 3d vision were talamasca, absolum and nomad. but afterwards (starting with made in trance) it was just increasingly commercial me-too fullon.

i wouldn't pay extra and it doesn't make any audible difference. the way music is mastered we are miles away from coming close to using the headroom we get with 16bit. not even 320 mp3 can be distinguished in double blind tests by professionals in their studios, so how could 24bit make any difference? there's so much placebo in audio quality. if you've ever been in a hifi shop and witnessed what they sell to people you will have been surprised. and if you've ever eq'd a channel that wasn't even playing you know why it works

thanks for mentioning shadow chronicles. i actually like it. it's "mainstream prog" but very tasteful mainstream prog. using the same general sound as vini vici, blastoyz and whatnot but with none of their bullshit.

we have a surprisingly clear winner. and i thought morphic resonance would come to be top. i guess i'll have to listen to jara luca again. also, it's interesting that goa madness records gets two spots of the top three. they really took off last year.

nice track by sonic species. one of the few producers who understand make fullon that not only sounds modern but also contains everything good about fullon as. the sci-fi vibe is also something i'm looking for in psy, though i'm equally fine with fully psychedelic weirdness or wall-of-sound goa with mystical atmospheres

not cheesy, just good fullon. not as deep as goa trance but great to party to. i do miss the times when they played fullon like this the whole night long.

it's definitley time for counting. rotwang has not been around lately, has he? he has written a script for counting the votes in these threads.

i do understand the appeal of the track, but the singing definitely crosses the line.

exactly what we need. a psy trance template. just change a few notes and produce the next garbage cliché track. seriously... wtf? whoever puts out that shit must have the single goal in life to ruin psy for everyone else.

i didn't know hypnoxock made fullon before. i actually don't find these tracks too cheesy at all. yes, the melodies are easy to digest, but not nauseating at all. the tracks aren't full of (and don't live only from) corny fullon clichés, so it's perfectly fine music. i could party to this kind of fullon all the way from dawn to sunrise.

very sad news indeed. RIP. excellent music all the way from the very first hux flux track to the illuminus album. btw: discogs says it was a heart attack.

it's 2000 all over again. this is sometimes close to early progressive, sometimes closer to psytek, at best (the first track) it sounds almost exactly like spirallianz