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that's also what i hope. and i do think ifo sounds dated and could profit from being remastered. the original sounds a bit flat and thin at times - at least compared to etnica live in athens. if they can work the same magic with ifo...
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i remember the time when we distinguished between morning trance and fullon, but wtf is scando trance?
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imho, i think they never were really special. a few tracks are quite good (like return of the shadows or the gathering). they picked up full-on like sound relatively early and did never go fully psytek/minimal, but gms did so earlier and influenced the sound in the early 00s even more. infected has played around with bringing classical music to psytrance, but technossomy's V.T.O.L. did the same more masterfully. so while i don't think they really were innovators, they did have a recognisable style. when you hear an infected track from the first albums you are very likely to know it's them, but again that's nothing too special; you can do the same with a talamasca, logib bomb, silicon sound or even astrix track from the same period. most artists had a signature sound back then.
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that's true. i thought you confused them with sadhus who really give away all their posessions save for a piece of cloth and a trident (if they devote their life to shiva for instance) and live on the streets. many buddhist monks don't come anywhere near that and some of the higher ups live more like some catholic bisphops or cardinals (with expensive cars, business class flights and the like; it seems just as inappropriate to buddhists as splurging cardinals seem to us).
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how is tibetan buddhism among the biggest forms? mahayana: 360 million people theravada: 150 million people vajrayana (including tibetan buddhism, mongolian buddhists and a few sects in china and japan): 18 million people. vajrayana is really only widespread in tibet and mongolia, both medium-sized regions which are extremely sparsely populated. asceticism is not central to buddhism. buddhism propagates the middle way, rejecting both asceticism and sensual indulgence. siddharta gautama allegedly attained enlightenment after he abandoned both between the extreme asceticism of hindu sadhus and the extremely opulent life (for the time) of an indian prince.
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that's only true for vajrayana/tibetan buddhism (i don't know if mongolian buddhists following the vajrayana school recognise the dalai lama, i guess not?). there's no central "boss" figure for theravada or mahayana buddhism. tough you could say that it's the same with protestantism and reformed christians. i guess the difference is that catholicism is the largest christian denomination while tibetan buddhism is a small fringe group if you compare the numbers to mahayana (all buddists in china, japan and vietnam) and theravada (all other buddhists except tibet and mongolia). i don't know, maybe the existence of a central figure is also part of the reason why vajrayana is so immensely popular here in europe compared to the other schools. edit: i'm too slow. ninja'd by ghostonacid
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triplets haven't always been yuck. used sparingly, they did add a bit of variety in the past (when i think of it there are surprisingly many triplet parts in artha's album...). it's just that when they're used in every second track as a cheap trick to mask a lack of creativity that i can't stand them anymore refractions is a great morning album. there's not a single bad track on there. my favourite one from there is silicon sunrise. it has a bit more somber (i dare not say melancholic ) vibe while still being focued on beautiful smooth melodies. so i guess it's more suited for the time when the first signs of dawn become visible rather than just before sunrise
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Elysium - Dance For The Celestial Beings II
Padmapani replied to Drosophila's topic in Artist News and Labels announcements
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no. only isreali fullon focued much more on morning than anything else. examples for non-morning fullon would be these (from 2003 and 2004 respectively) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNOdUMbxoag in the first half of the 00s, nearly all music played from sunset to sunrise was fullon and there was an appropriate abundance of fullon ranging from darker to fluffy morning music...
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great, thanks!
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thanks. wow, that's a really nice series of compilations. i'm just listening through some of vol. 4. that gives me hope for the future of psytrance. psychedelic music with melodies, that's neither cheesy, nor has any sort of crossover with electro/minimal, nor does it use the cheap tricks that are the reason psytrance became shit ( ). but i wouldn't call it night-time fullon exactly. that moonweed track is more goa than anything else and the rest goes from night-time fullon, to fullon, to progressive, to psytrance-not-further-classifiable.
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hi i'm looking for this morning fullon track, that i have on one dj set from 2005. it sound a bit like a ripoff of logic bomb - the third revelation in a style similar to fatali, jirah or alternative control. anyway here's the link to the file: unknown morning fullon.
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have we had cosmic replicant already? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui7HYsIVhPY
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The Psychedelic Trance, in its entirety
Padmapani replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
yes, that's exactly what i wanted to say. music that gets the "tribal" label applied to by people can be anything from normal psy with some tribal influences like percussion or ethnic vocals to music with non-electronic instruments and/or real drumming (i know sonic fusion does that, i've had his drum kit in my car once) to music that's wholly focused on percussion and rhytm in a non-synthetic sounding way (let's forget about the non-electronic music made by real tribes for a moment ). while i understand that people would make a distiction for artists that play instruments, creating a more of a concert- rather than a trance dance experience, it's only the latter (that's much more minimal with almost no melodies) that i think warrents a genre called tribal (and most of that music isn't psy but most often rather some variant of techno).- 349 replies
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wow. i know you have a higher tolerance for cheese than i do, but this is ultra-cheesy! i wouldn't have expected that any subgenre of darkpsy went the way of commercialisation that fast. it's like (the bad kind of) happy hardcore with a few darkpsy fm leads in the background.
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the last album of astronaut ape should fit and is really nice: also, gmo vs. dense of course:
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not famous enough for radio or charts obviously but famous enough. if someone asks you what music you listen to and you answer "goa" (=the name for psy in general over here), you'll get one of the following answers (ordered by how familiar they are to psy; from least familiar to most familiar) : "what's that?" "that's some kind of techno? i don't like any of that" "that's stuff like infected mushroom, right?" "me too! i LOVE infected mushroom" "i'm not really into it but i like some gms/astrix/neelix" "what kind of goa? i only listen to darkpsy/hitech/progressive/fullon/..." the two middle options most often end in embarrassing situations (and the conclusion that they actually hate psy if they get to listen to some).
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Most underground psytrance you ever listened to?
Padmapani replied to Manuser's topic in General Psytrance
there's not a lot of stuff in that direction (except the obvious: x-dream - irritant, ...). the closest one is probably tetraktys - tetraktys and maybe tenonaki - roots, but the former is already 10 years old and the latter is even more technoish with not so much psy... -
Most underground psytrance you ever listened to?
Padmapani replied to Manuser's topic in General Psytrance
i have a few tracks that no one except myself has ever heard. how underground is that if we go by popularity in the psy scene almost all newschool goa is pretty underground, but that applies to psytek even more these days. so i'll go with: -
magma and my plan are goa masterpieces. it's sad to hear that there's no possibilty for us to see new tracks from him like we do with shakta.
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The Psychedelic Trance, in its entirety
Padmapani replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
it totally understand that with psytrance groups that play "real" instruments, like for instance highlight tribe or some sonic fusion, but what about tribal tracks that follow the traditional psy/goa template and just have the focus on tribal percussion or a tribal aesthetic like most of elysium's music, der dritte raum - trommelmaschine (voodoo remix) or electric universe - the tribal session? it's always difficult to fit all the different music we have in specific categories- 349 replies
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i have never heard of bon. and tbh i find these two tracks to be nothing special - for the time they were released. now they would be great compared to most other fullon
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The Psychedelic Trance, in its entirety
Padmapani replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
instead, it's simply sensations provided by some time of percussion- 349 replies
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what's your definition of a hippie?
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^ really nice. it's fullon and at the same time it's goa, in addition to that it's better than the original. has it been released somewhere? discogs knows nothing,