Padmapani

you mean like mahadeva?

i've finally got a relaxing evening, so i'm listening to the new music i just got i hope you're not opening a bottle for each and every time you pressed send

for the purposes described in the original post, i'd use logic's delay designer. you can do almost all of these things and it's less work to set up. but something i do more often is build my own delay using a simple delay plug on a send that feeds back on itself. on this send channel you can then add eq, reverb, flanger or any other effects. this way you can fade out the delay extra nicely into a lush reverb, make it progressicely weirder as it fades, ... if you're feeling adventurous, you can set up multiple such delay channels with different effects that feed into each other (or back again). with that technique you can have a synth stab trigger a percussion sequence or the delay of a percussion hit turn into evolving atmospheric background sounds. just be careful not the set the feedback parameters too high and mute your output quickly if such an accident happens

i know that problem well from a while back. that's why i loop at least one element into the new section i'm building. this may be a simple melody, pads, anything that has the same progression/feeling/spirit. now they all fit together also, with more experience, i can now think "i'll make a smaller climax that comes before the final one, do a breakdown and buildup that leads into the main climax" and most of the time i'll actually succeed at doing that. that's the spirit. if you just do it for the love of music and having a good time playing around with your own ideas, you can never fail. even in the track turns out to be no good you've had a lot of fun (and learnt something new) along the way if you keep producing music, you will soon arrive at a point where you think "wow, now this is really good. anything i've made before is rubbish". the bad news is: this will happen to you many times. the good new is: respected artists with many releases under their belt will often think the same of their earlier works. it's a steady learning process with no apparent end. the path is the destination

conversely, you will almost exclusively find parties/talk about psytrance and not goa if you visit goabase. even if you search for parties tagged "goa trance" there will hardly be any goa

@zoomorph i'm still laughing out loud at your reply

cause trouble? produce stress and anger? dude... it's a messageboard where people state their opinions, and when i read something that totally goes against my own perception, i'll say so. we don't agree, so what? if that gets you stressed or angry, that's quite frankly not my problem. i'm not here simply to agree with you all the time.

seconded. lsd is a timeless classic and rightly so. phreaky imho is sub-par me-too goa trance; i don't see what's special about those tracks. yup. especially el.es.di.

if you narrow your definition of music expoloring space just a tiny bit more, you arrive at silence, because there's no sound in space. or alternatively if you think of spaceships the sound of something like a refridgerator crammed into a tiny metal box. @spoke nicely spoken but i think you're too optimistic about it becoming mainstream.

nice. but why haven't i heard about the label or any of the artists before? it seems as if with the focus switching elsewhere, we're finally seeing more quality fullon again.

hey. by finishing tracks. if you've already done the analyzing of other people's music there's no other way. really, finishing tracks is the only thing that teaches you how to finish tracks. i think that's a problem most of us have at some point in time. i have found that it helps to not start seuquencing until an idea for a complete track pops into your head while still in the making-loops phase. so usually i have at least 15 minutes of material before i even start with the intro. this also forces me to select the best parts and throw out the garbage, which can be difficult for some. a problem that can arise if you work that way is that different parts don't fit together well, but you can circumvent this by having one or two melodies playing most of the time in your "pattern library". of course they shouldn't play the whole time in the track you're building, but it ensures that your track won't be a disjointed mess of parts that don't have much to do with each other. but of course others may have completely different strategies... for the general structure, it of course depends on the subgenre and how much you want to deviate from the template, but in very generally speaking you'll have an ambient intro that leads to kick and bass, then percussion comes in, then you introduce different elements sequentially, working towards one or more smaller climaxes, seperated by quiter parts or breakdowns, then you'll have the final buildup and climax when everything comes together and blows the listener away. finally you start to take elements away until you end up with an ambient outro. of course nothing is set in stone and if you always stick to the same formula (as everyone else or even as yourself) your music will be predictable and boring. listen to different kinds of music and experiement!

this is something where i think early 00's fullon and closely related music excels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReugOsMbq2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ5JqqAOE_M for a completely different view (namely from 50's science fiction kinda perspective) you'll of course have to look at eat static: and then there's of course dimension 5 with nearly all of their tracks. especially deep space 5d, intastella and the z-principle.

we are a small community, with many of us not having lots of free time and most of us being goa freaks. so when you ask about music that's similar to both laughing buddha - sacred technology (which i find to be decent fullon and kinda typical for the uk-sound and of course nano records) and alien project - activation portal (an album i don't know well, because for me it's cheesy unimaginative isreali fullon. i know the first few alien project albums much better and his music got progressively weaker with time.), i really have no idea what to recommend and rather leave the field for others more knowledgable who might also actually like the alien project album and see similarities between the two albums other than both being fullon. there really is a lot of fullon out there with most of it sounding like everything else, while there's still a pretty wide spectrum to be heard over all these years. no one can keep on top of it all or even like it all, so most people tend to "specialize"; that is if they even listen to fullon which a good portion of those on here don't. if you just ask me about laughing buddha, i'd say look at tristan, amd, avalon or headroom. but if you ask about alien project i'm a lot less sure and would say go with astrix or gms (who, i'd suspect, you already know, so that's probably not going to helpful...)

it is decent psytrance. fine for dancing, but i wouldn't agree with the day-time label.

i don't have to look further than watching him celebrate himself to realize that. pushing speakers on girls isn't even necessary.

i just stumbled upon the cd in the suntrip shop a few days ago. after reading the tracklist it instantly went into the shopping basket .

i didn't know imba had made a darkpsy track. i just checked it out and, needless to say, his goa trance is infinitely better

for modern dub (well, modern dub that's still more than 10 years old ), check out sound patrol by zenzile or steet of dub by dubblestandard.

ah, very nice. i should look into soundcloud more often

i'm not 100% sure that i understand what you mean, but if i do you might like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-QpG4yIcsY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsOyAvkoUSc

retire? don't even think about that! you three guys along with filteria and artha imho are the top newschool goa artists at the moment. you've done a collab with e-mantra? i do you mean the one with ovnimoon or have a missed something? but also, your post makes me wonder what a artifact303 vs. e-mantra vs. nova fractal track would sound like..

i don't find alien project particularly bad. actually, it's pretty ok for ireali fullon at the time. like astrix, just not quite up to the same level. i'd go with aztechno dream if i had to choose one album.

i prefer the e-mantra remix of this one. but i wonder why both chose to remix this particular track, it's not that special among artifact303's music imho.

it's not that "fullon". you know, you could be standing in front of the booth instead of behind it and streching out your arms like tiesto

^ couldn't agree more, on all accounts. modern psy is severely lacking in atmosphere. most fullon and also darkpsy back then really painted a nice abstract soundscape, but that is completely lost now. the only modern thing that comes close (except goa obviously) is the occasional serbian style progressive (e-clip's first album, some ovnimoon, ...).