Padmapani

agreed 100%. umm no, not necessarily. what i'm noticing lately is that breaks mostly lead to just kicknbass. there are no great climaxes (which imho are perfectly compatible with entrancing continuity). you got kick+bass and the whole thing starts building and building, then comes an (overly long) break, but instead of introducing the parts of the next section or bringing it all back with added stuff for a climax, we're left with an underwhelming kick and bass combo and nothing more. it imho takes the whole energy out of it. +100 i have no problem with a riser or a snareroll (i haven't heard one in fullon for a long time btw) or a "kickroll" or "cymbalroll" (there are surely words for these two, but i think everyone gets what i'm trying to say ) or a opening lp-filter on the kicknbass or even those glitchy "cut-up-beat" effects, but why do they try to put EVERY SINGLE ONE of those tricks (except the snareroll) into EVERY SINGLE BREAK?

aren't those representations of hypercubes only projections? depending on the data you could surely graph something four-dimensional in 3d using colours instead of a fourth axis. but this doesn't work for things like for instance the hypercube.

this is an intersting album. at the first listen i was like "wtf? is this even goa rather than psytrance?" and put it away for a while. but i gave it a second chance, and after revisiting the album today, i got a wholly different view of it. it's creative, doesn't follow any conventions, the tracks are unique and definitely tell a story. to keep this short, i give this a solid 4/5 throughout. isn't this exactly the kind of goa that's supposedly missing in the whole newschool department according to some discussions we've had here? there isn't any kind of "fitting as many layers as possible" or "fluffy astral projection sound" in here. the next time this argument comes up, i'll point those claiming the above here.

agreed. i loved his unique style (and especially the crazyness of when the somberness becomes the game), but the tracks on those new eps (this one and the disease within) sound nothing like that. just run-of-the-mill serbian progressive. not bad but nothing special anymore

i'm not sure, but it totally sounds like elysium/sheyba.

apparently making a long mix like that was a common thing to do back then. dick trevor recently made simon's 19 minute remix of the slinky nuns remix of atmos' klein aber doctor available for download on soundcloud.

i'll say hi, when i see one of you. recognizing me will be much easier: look for a long-haired guy with a goatee, who is smoking a cigarette . i'll also probably be wearing a red jacket with a pattern consisting of oms and "eyes of buddha", but i guess that doesn't help much either i had always wondered why we see lots of similar artists regularly, but never ovnimoon. i guess fear of flying explains that.

apparently it's this one: http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php/topic/50977-tangerine-dream/?do=findComment&comment=852872 and it's not even about psytrance

i'm coming for sure. i'm not too keen on atmos or vibrasphere and doubtful about transwave and space tribe, but will instead make sure i don't miss e-clip, ovnimoon, mindwave and djane gaby. for everything else, i can agree with your artist selection also, iirc görgö has played some nice oldschool set at ozora 2 (3?) years ago... i already have the tickets. at goabase they said something about there probably being no tickets at the gate. i don't know if it's marketing, but otherwise anyone who wants to come would have to be quick to order theirs. today is the last day of presale. forget the last sentance, they today announced extending the presale until the 17th.

we are really good at posting at the same time

well, yes. but don't most synths have the choice between mono, legato, poly and arp modes? my go-to-synth, zebra, at least does

i use arpeggiators extremely rarely. when i use them, it's usually for inspiration for how to draw the midi notes of the arpeggio i'm gonna do. but sometimes in arpeggiator mode those notes sound nicer than in mono mode (or whatever), so instead of fiddling with note lengths or something, i just switch the arpeggiator on again afterwards

seemed easier than the last psytrance one, but we will see edit: that makes 7.5 points. i didn't count #19, although the track is exactly what i wrote, but still i had neither artist nor track title correct. about some of my guesses being totally wrong, i put that down to having a serious cold at the moment complete with impaired hearing

no worries. yes, definitely in the trance spectrum. there's no doubt about that. yes, usually anything with percussion like that seems to get the tribal tag. but it's not too prominent here, so i wouldn't classify it as such.

thanks for the tip. i read your reply just now and todays it's better, but i'm sure i'll have to try this out in the next few days.

i always get colds or some other sickness, when i have a lot of stress for extended periods of time. so i'm not surprised it struck me yesterday. anyone got any idea how to get a stuck up eustachi tube open again? the fucked up hearing and the accompanying symptoms are driving me nuts.

great thread i also love how the offer from the "new" tab is cheaper then both offers from the "used" tab. is that a promise? the crowdfunding did work for ektoplazm, you know.

i just though of this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnMtJ_y7Nlk it's rather different than the track in the original post and alternates between melodic and minimal, but it has an epic oriental melody at the end. and of course this one:

yes, exactly. to me it seems like it's going to be the better of the two festivals after the split. good to know that it's really going to be night when the nonstop goa trance is playing. haha, will try to do that

you could call this my introduction to electronic music. it starts out with guitars but gets quite trancy shortly afterwards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBU_ROX4WZM

newschool goa ≥ oldschool goa >> good fullon (i guess you all know what i mean ) > melodic progressive > minimal psytrance (2001 kinda techtrance stuff) > dark progressive > other progressive > other fullon > twilight > forest = darkpsy >> psycore > ultra-cheesy fullon = minimal crossover > electro crossover i guess i could extend it to downtempo and other music styles as well

i'm ready. it will be an epic battle deciding the penultimate position in this contest of ultimate darkpsy knowlegde

ah, that lineup explains it the headliner of the first party is drollkoppz. like all the other panzar productions artists, that means a very special kind of progressive (hard, minimal, based on some progressive that was popular for a short period around 2000-2001). it's virtually nonexistant here, so i'd love to hear that sound at a party once. going by the soundcloud link to the dj before him, that was dark progressive (a.k.a. zenonesque), which is still a comparatively rare style to be played, but more popular than the panzar productions stuff. imho one set of this is quite good (especially the more maximal tracks), but to listen to that for extended periods of time can be a bit boring (except when it's winter and i'm in a depressed mood ). for the second party we're looking more at something like "normal" progressive, the better half of which is "fairly atmospheric, albeit minimalist" as you put it, while the worse half is more like minimal techno with house influences and occasional psy sounds. there's a lot of confusion about the terms progressive trance and progressive psytrance. generally in the psy scene progressive trance is just a short form for progressive psytrance and afaik the newer "normal" trance (tiesto and all that stuff) is also called progressive trance, but obviously has nothing to do with psy prog. others differentiate between the music they find psychedelic, calling that progressive psytrance, and similar music they don't find psychedelic (progressive trance obviously), which does have a point, but is highly subjective. imho it's best to just call it all progressive (or "proggy" as is usual where you live); that can prevent a lot of confusion i hope that has helped clear the whole thing up a little and btw: it's usual for most parties to start out with progressive, so if you come early and leave early, that is most likely what you will hear.