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NFS3 was my fist racing game! Loved it But the music - psy-trance? WHAT? I mean, you can choose between electronic or more rock-oriented pieces, yep, but the electronic isn't very psy IMHO. Although back then I haven't been into psy much ... but still. It's synthy ... and some stuff is quite catchy (the synth music of the first track when you drive it in winter for example (you know what I mean, don't you?) ... or one of the themes in the main menu ... and some others...), but nothing real psy I would say...

VERY interesting indeed ... I also have this "can't get enough"/"louder, louder!"-feeling on concerts/parties ... interesting... gosh, I'm more than half through and should actually study will finish reading it later

GRAN TURISMO 4! I have NOT played it (I do not have a Playstation 2 ), but look here - this is the official soundtrack: http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/sol/sol1cd016.html ... Hallucinogen, Eat Static, Koxbox ... some state of the art artists there!

Awww, that's bad to hear that equipment got damaged But you must try to do something about it! Flight companies are insured ... if something happend to somebody's luggage they have to pay! Now it could be already to late, but you still have to try to contact them, maybe there is something they can do! (Next time you should check the luggage immediately, better safe than sorry - and if there's any damage go to the airport personnel right away and tell them!) And haha, thanks for the offers guys ... whenever I will come to Malmö or Amsterdam again I'll ask you if there are some events coming up or clubs to go

oh wow, incredible!!! (haha, in Gansdoline's gallery there's even one pic of an event where I have been ... the third one ... that must be taken in the WUK, I know it, because deko looked exactly like this and decks were at the same place and this light spot in the front hangs in the same place...) *bookmarks psygarden* That's an absolutely awesome site! Why didn't I know that one before?

Welcome, Cheyenne

for me not at all ... I think Shamanix is a bit scary in the beginning (especially when jogging with it on the ears through the big park near me at night! I did that once and never again, huuh ), but then it gets rather happy and joyful the more it comes towards the end... Psy-tracks feelings for me: 1) Sadness (but hopeful, beautiful sadness, if you know what I mean ): Noma - Another Time 2) Fear: Battle Of The Future Buddhas - Tigerhill 3) Loneliness and fear: The Delta - Thing ... dark ambient can bring this feeling up too. 4) Energy: Etnoscope - King Size Rizzla and other Etnoscope tracks. 5) Pushing / Anger-motivation: Penta - 1001 Hangovers and Quantum State - Natural Born Idiots 6) Happiness / joy: S-Range - Dimension Jump and many others by S-Range, that's why I like it so much 7) Meditation: Padmasana - Universal Consciousness 8) "one with the universe": Matenda - Smiri Se 9) Comfort / warmth: Makyo - Vismaya and other Makyo.

hey Nemo, that must have been a cool gig It was nice to read too, gave me an impression of how much you dudes up there at the decks actually work to provide us with a good live set ("I need an adapter, I need an adapter...", hehe). I wish I could have been there, I quite liked Malmö. But can you tell me where in Malmö nightlife is going on? Because I was walking there around the city at night with my friend to find a pub or something and we didn't find ANYTHING! Really, there were even hardly any people on the streets, it was almost like a ghost town - with us as zombies ... but most likely we only didn't get there where the nightlife is ... because youth hostel is pretty far from the centre to walk... And ay, Nos makes good deco ... unfortunately I have not ben at a party decorated by him yet

that's good, I'm curious

Hey, Krell, you remind me of my communications teacher He told us to always focus on positive things first. Always! Because even in the worst things there can be found a grain of good. Anyway... I can only second the promotional factor of mp3 pirating and such. I wouldn't know ANYTHING of psy without mp3 AT ALL! Without mp3 I'd be a techno/trance-listening stupid chav, no joke, because that's what I was into before psy came! Mp3 saved my life, music-wise! And that is something to be forever thankful. I am also pro academic music genre definition! When I want scandinavian melodic progressive morning trance then I want this special kind of music and nothing else. Many genres ease recommendations of similar stuff! I'd set the definitions really precise so that everybody knows what to check out when he/she likes this or that artist! And there's even a good thing in event quality decreasing: people's expectations get lower and when you expect something bad and get something good (which is fortunately still possible) it's double yay for you (at least for me a positive surprise results in much more fun because of realizing having the luck to experience such a thing than when I expect something good and get something good). And when you expect something bad and get something bad you are not so pissed off like if you expected something good and get something bad...

Hey, Xerxes, I got myself that album ... and I find your music pretty good. What especially stands out IMHO is Prague ... I love Prague, it's my favourite, I really like it ... nice chilly music with a light melancholy in it, that's what I love so much about nordic music. It's not sad, but it has this little ... special thing in it only music up from there has

I second that. But I don't know many ambient labels besides it

... I don't even like that kind of psytrance so much ... rather prefer it not-so-weird to avoid brain salad ... but it depends... I agree that to get seriously into classic I should start carefully with soft and easy stuff. But then I don't see the point why I should buy CDs of stuff that I actually don't like at the moment just to get into it? The concert was a test. And well, it was even better than I thought it to be (I even liked a tiny bit of it ), but the length of the concert and my attention slipping away in the later part and the occasional for me mentally undigestable sound salads turned it into a fatiguing session. That's the point where I learned that I can not digest classic. And that's the point where I stopped dissing classic, but having respect for the music and its listeners for they can comprehend what I can not.

Great thread! For me: 1. CDs that spinned in your CD-player the most (artist albums). Setherian - Multiverse; Son Kite - Colours; Quantum State - Subatomic Travellers; Etnoscope - Drums From The Dawn Of Time; S-Range - Space 2. CDs that spinned in your CD-player the most (compilations). Goa-Head 19; Sun Tribe 3; Check.In; 3. Best label. - 4. Live acts that impressed you the most. Quantum State; Silent Sphere; Magnetrixx & Morganixx; SUN-Project 5. Live acts that disappointed you. Logic Bomb 6. DJs sets that rocked your dancefloor. Feuerhake's set!!! 7. DJs sets that made you leave the dancefloor. when he plays fullon, I'm off - unless it's before the liveact, then I go watch deko 8. Best party. "Zart Besaitet" --- SUN-Project & Quantum State live! 9. Best festival. - 10. Best deco. MAE & MOA rocked BIG time! But Calaquendi had some really beautiful backdrops too! It's really hard to decide between the two ... but I must say from the awesomeness point of view Calaquendi was maybe a little better. On the other hand I was standing in front of Mae & Moa's backdrops with open mouth for a long time too ... really hard to decide... 11. Best drink/beverage. CIDER! From Sweden! No doubt about that. The only question is: which taste? The answer is: all of them, haha 12. Best drug/trip. - 13. Best moment/experience. That must be the trip to Sweden/Norway! I guess that was the best. It was my peak experience this year... 14. Worst moment/experience. There are several ones One of them has been the Logic Bomb party. Yes, that was one of the worst ones. Also emotionally. You know, psy parties always used to cheer me up and I always went home with a smile when I was the night out on psy - but not this time ... bad music (only one half of Logic Bomb was there - almost only DJ set (although live was promised), bad people (thieves, strange folk, aggressive folk too!), bad air AND bad mood ... I went there to get cheered up, not to get dragged down. That was really a shock for me. For years only good experiences and now that? The problem is, since that experience psy parties aren't what they used to be anymore. I dunno why ... some kind of trauma maybe? I'm very sensitive in that case 15. Best non-psy. KORPIKLAANI HUMPPA METAL CONCERT! YAAAY! In a cellar of an old former monastery, 2 floors down under the houses of the city! Deafening sound, awesome freaky people, sweating, headbanging ... the whole cellar was shaking! Maaan, this was THE blast!

Respect to those who like classical music. I don't ... but actually not because I don't like it but rather because my mind can not digest it. It sounds funny, I know ... and concerning film music I find classical music very nice (LOTR for example), but listening to it at home, like I do listen to ambient or psy, is not possible with me. My mother once gave me a ticket for a classical concert (she was going on a voyage and the ticket was expensive so she wanted me to go because otherwise it would have been for nothing) and I really went there although I knew I didn't like classic, but I wanted to give it a last chance - I was about to see the Austrian Philharmonic Orchestra (like The Journey Man ). Well, it didn't work, I didn't like it. I liked the calm parts, where only one or two violins or just very few instruments playing, there I can identify melodies and layers, that is okay. But then when the whole orchestra is playing it's just a sound salad in my head. And this got on my nerves soon and I so did not enjoy anything at all in the later half, it was rather fatiguing for me and I went home very tired from listening...

CBL boring? Harsh words. But I agree, concerning Norwegian Mountain landscapes I'd like to listen to anything but organic ambient like CBL or whatever. In fact, I wouldn't listen to psy at all I think. Mountain Ambient... Well, this is hard for me, you know. In the Norwegian Mountains I'd probably put on some dark ambient ... well, rather depressive than dark. Something like Vinterriket. Yep. Norwegian mountains in snowy mist and cold = Vinterriket! But that is probably nothing for you, Cinos ... except if you like your musical meal served ice cold and depressive. Hmmm... Okay, but I really could have something for you, Cinos. Wongraven is the band's name, Tiden Er En Stenlagt Grav is the song. Wongraven make other good songs, but that is probably one of their nicest. What I like about them is that their sound is not cold, but rather warm. Ideal to go to sleep and dream a bit of nordic nature - which is what I am doing to this music

S-Range - Space Carbon Based Lifeforms - Hydroponic Garden Etnoscope - Drums From The Dawn Of Time that's it yes, three is not much ... but nothing comes close to those - in my opinion

I partly agree with Ale ... there are already a bit too many labels out there. I mean, I have nothing against many labels - where there are many labels there is much competition to bring out better releases and that is a good thing! But I think that meanwhile it's getting too much, you know. And meanwhile they are cutting themselves in their own flesh in a way too, because there are only many little ones that all have very few money on their own which in the future can result in poor artist payment/ripping off, poor advertising, bad quality and whatever things. Don't get me wrong, I prefer a big variety of labels, but come on, is it really necessary to have SO many? If some labels with similar style and who get along well with each other would join themselves to one greater "label group" or something like that they would be able to share their work, combine their experiences, organize things better, work more efficiently and they would also surely be able to raise more funds for better advertising, artist payment and quality. And if two or three labels would come for each "label group" I say we'd still have enough labels!

since I don't have a credit card (which would most likely be required to download the mp3s) and can not get one unless I get a job and have a secured income for me right now there are just 2 options: buying it at market price or pirating. I choose to pirate.

I think it's great The idea of putting Bush as leader and whatever shit (isn't one of the helmets a darth vader one?) on it and then calling the album "bloody reality" is really cool IMHO ... more intelligent than most common anti-bush shit out there...

It depends. I would put in a classical tune (don't laugh) for half a minute or so - the Donauwalzer for example ... this is played all over our country on new year's eve - I have once been on a techno party right at the nye moment and they really put this tune in! But you should interrupt the classic shit after thirty seconds with something cool. Maybe with the "Ich unterbreche ungern eure Freizeit, Jungs..."-sample of Zerotonine - Der Exot, but that's probably too little killargh for you. Or wait, I guess I'd pick Son Kite - The Stars Within Us ... and I'd tune in right at the "...... now real drums and now music!" sample... But if you want more killargh you could pick Man With No Name - The First Day (climax begins at 4:20) to interrupt the classical thingie .. or even without classical thingie, just as you like. Or Space Buddha - Acid Prophecy (super climax 5:40) for even more killarrrgh! I guess I'd pick Space Buddha! dRove me to exhaustion as I let it play during a running session...

guess what! S-RANGE!!!!!!!! come on, you asked for it other psy/ambient all-timers are: Etnoscope Carbon Based Lifeforms Makyo

absolutely seconded for Neuromotor

löl, fine I still had to search for it on p2p for a long time back then until I got it It's great stuff. Everybody that likes ambient and doesn't know CBL should give a listen to that... My favourite track is Or Plan B

all crap except Psytisfaction 3 ... the snake's mouth ... lol... and NT's parody goes without words, this is genious Psytisfaction 3 is actually pretty ... cool... IMHO