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@Multi-Media oh dear, that's too bad ... so they went into a completely other direction. I won't go travelling for this, sorry

First of all, cool thread! Keep it going @OopieI didn't know your alias, but you make good music @fluorosis nice melodies ... I got reminded of Kraftwerk at the second tune heh, I am very surprised that I see Panzar Produktionz mentioned here ... yes, I was a big fan of them and also wrote the one or other promo text for them. Their motto was to "bring back progressive as it was in the 00s" - and in the process they have created their own style, which is not an exact clone of the "old progressive", but very close to it. The closest I could find, in fact ... my favourite artist was Pusherstreet (the project from Rasmus Alanne and Liam Dorff (Liam founded the label) - both came from Etnoscope, that's why I found them) ... and they also provided the "ignition spark" for good artists such as Mantra Flow or Patara ... they even had a then new track by Magnetrixx ("Flusensieb"), whom I'm a big fan of... Do check them out: https://soundcloud.com/panzarproduktionz Everything they released was always for free, which also was great. And here we are already at the spot of "what I miss in psytrance": it's this old progressive stuff that has caught me big time - and I mis it, because it is not around anymore. What I like most is to go jogging or walking to this music - and for this purpose I need "walking-friendly" bpm and SIMPLE structures and melodies so that my brain does not drift off completely, but still can process the information coming from outside, such as other people, cyclists, dogs, trees ... and all of this in a comfortable way - because yes, I could listen also to very complex or intense stuff, but then such outside occurrences would always lead to me "leaving the zone" which causes me to be not happy. The "old school progressive", as I am beginning to call it, provided exactly this: digestible melodies and bpm that took me on a literal journey as I was running along to it. I'm talking of artists such as: Atmos, S-Range, Matenda, Noma, 12 Moons, Etnoscope, Magnetrixx, MOS (Mittelstandskinder Ohne Strom), Shiva Chandra, old Son Kite, old Vibrasphere, old Antix ... most of pre-2005 Digital Structures releases basically, plus Spiral Trax Interestingly, CALM Fullon beats - such as Silicon Sound - did this trick for me as well. The "progressive psytrance" that is around nowadays is completely different. It seems to me almost like fullon was before, measured in terms of intensity, number of breaks, uptwists, downtwists ... I could probably make fancy snake-man moves on the dancefloor to this music (and get tired quickly), but I can't run to it - at least not in a straight line

@astralprojection nah, I think your comment was valuable ... broadened my view. It in fact probably has been better in some cases with "old" equipment. I'm drawing parallels to analog vs. digital / vinyl vs. CD in my head... --> How come that a vinyl, with an ever-so-slight crackle (and therefore actually "worse quality"), is more preferrable to my ears than a completely cracke-less CD or wave file? And you have a point there with the "clean" sound. It may be too clean or "sterile". When it's too clean, it loses "human qualities", it loses its character to some extent. The question that remains, is: would somebody who has "grown up" in that modern sound environment, find the old sound "outdated"? So far we only have one answer and it rings true...

OMG dude, do they still play that stuff? Old Skool Progressive Psytrance ... I'd travel some distance to hear that again, played on a dancefloor...

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It does not necessarily need to have become better. Only different. You could read my post also in the direction that it has not improved, but worsened. Even though I'd percieve it not as worse when a computer now can do stuff that you needed more equipment for years ago... Thinking that a simple Cubase setup could replace one of those "Eventide" that you mentioned was - and probably will always be - impossible. Yet the former is the most used setup when it comes to producing psytrance nowadays. Does that reflect in the sound? Most definitely.

This. Both of you. I am really sorry, but: in my opinion old tracks "do not stand a comparable chance" against new ones. That is because of several factors: loudness (new tracks are much louder), "sound-enhancing techniques" (that in reality make things all sound the same, because people are all using dame presets and filters), production tricks such as sidechaining (muting the rest of the frequencies when the kick (or other effect) comes for more "punch"), newer software versions and versions of audio drivers supporting a broader manipulation of the sound and certain tricks that weren't possible before but are standard now - and finally the whole equipment that artists use is different now and mostly consists of digital synths or controller devices, controlling the sound on a laptop. Just look at Cubase how it changed over the years. And I don't think that even an old cubase file sounds the same in a new version - in fact, we (Skeletone ) had this ... I once brought a track along that we wrote in an old Cubase version ... and it sounded totally different in the new version, even though we essentially used the same instruments. There were even error messages concerning the 64 bit versions of some VSTs ... crazy! Good point There is a small "but" though: the writing of the old tracks has been "anchored" in my brain to the old sound, the old hardware and production techniques ... and that's something you can't get rid of even if you go the route and make it all modern. Or vice versa!

Hi ... title says it all ... I want some 360° GOA videos ... or 360° videos aimed at GOA people (and yes the excessive use of the GOA word is because of the number 604) 604 + 360 = 964 If we had 964 360° 604 vids ... that'd be awesome I start with the first: Please please let's continue this so that we can make a playlist on YouTube I'm serious. Are there any decent ones out there?

I only know this ... not psy, but an extraordinarily brilliant tune: you could do a psy remix of it, that would be awesome

Borderlands 3 2nd one was better ... but I still like it. And no, I'm not a total crack for it ... I just like it because on normal playthrough it's a more or less relaxed PvE shooter that doesn't take itself serious ... I have stopped with PvP shooters, those have become too stressful for me.

I've always thought Prio Alea was our PSYNINJA ... maybe because of his avatars back in the day ... or because I reckoned he was using the smiley a lot pffff ... respect, I have already lost track

Yes I agree - and I think that it is a large part of the issue. Bad YouTube titling / labeling is a problem that is far underrated. It's genuinely awful sometimes - tracks under wrong names, wrong artists credited, typos in track names ... whenever I come across something like that, I try to make a comment that corrects it ... but in the rarest cases people even care about the comment or, even less likely, adapt the tile However, I have heard that YouTube has a built in algorithm that detects tracks that are played in videos and automatically tips the artist with the royalties if the video is played and the song is listened to ... downside is, though, that for this to work and the royalties to flow you have to be registered with YouTube as an artist... ... or maybe that is only their plan and not yet fully realized, because why otherwise there are so many copyright strikes because of music played, sometimes also in the back of videos, that is copyrighted...?

Thanks for posting, valuable proofs there. Quoting it for reference.

Exactly that is what it is - an old, kind of "Psytrance scene meme" ... in my opinion. We actually had memes before that "meme thing" took off and conquered the whole internet. This was one of them. So, that Psynina thing was a kind of mystery / meme / whatever... until some people did a bit of digging and found very significant signs that it's just Thomas Vitali. It was never fully proven, but neither disproven. Thomas Vitali apparently was the first who in our scene came up with that "DJane that doesn't exist" idea ... that's how I see it. Seems there was no real harm done with the Psynina thing ... the other stuff mentioned here might be worth the warning though...

yes - moved by request!

Please don't say Thomas Vitali. Say Psynina! The guy was suspicious to me since almost 6 years... Sorry I just need to quote myself now: heh ...

Magnificent! Magnificent! Thanks a lot - all of these are going in ... except the last one - I love Triquetra, but I'll have to make a newschool list first ... probably going to be the next project

Hello! New project playlist created: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkAqGLhQtsJ32najDKbzsmiqfNYNX6Se3 I would like this playlist to contain as much OLD GOA LIVE VIDEOS as there are available on YouTube. It should be a LIVE VIDEO collection - not a "live set" collection ... there are many recordings of live sets out there, but for this I want videos, i.e. moving pictures - I want to see how the DJs looked like, what equipment was there, what people were there and what they wore. (This is not so much important right now, but in a few years down the line it'll be all the more interesting for everybody, I believe... ) It's a bit tricky as to label what is old when it comes to live videos ... in my terms I'd be thinking pre-2000 but I find it seriously hard to dig up such old videos, that's why you find a System 7 one from 2009 in there for example ... and Son Kite from 2004 ... I was not sure whether to keep them in there, but at the moment it's so few videos that I leave them in ... and if you have stuff up to 2005 or even later, hell, just recommend it, I'd be thankful. I can separate lists if we get enough videos - but I'm not gonna do that if we are still under 30... Maybe you know more stuff? Help me extend the playlist, post your suggestions here and I will include them and be thankful cheers

Hi ... just to let you know, the channel is not dead ... new video has just been uploaded ... why so long? well, I had a few things that kept me off uploading, such as catching Covid, getting a new PC ... and so forth Artist interviews would be super cool - if we had anybody that did them ... seriously though, I don't think there's going to be any if there's no help, because even if I can shake hands with artists on parties occasionally, interviewing them is a wholly different caliber... I won't be shy to ask though. It's a good input cheers

I fully understand that ... yes, three times yes, we all want it to be over (well maybe really bad people don't, but we don't care about these) ... however, it may not be taken lightly. One overlooked cluster and you are back to the start. I think it's better to cut down on partying this year and then we can be the merrier next year in return... It's bad to hear that from your town ... I hope the situation does not escalate ... at the moment it's getting worse still, I'm even a little worried to stop for a break on the motorway in that area (mostly I have to go for a wee around there) ... have been procrastrinating a few travels, but I can't procrastrinate forever. Then again, we here aren't any better - cases in Vienna are rising too. I have begun to think, what if we, as humanity, really have seen the peak of "everything", the best state possible? We have been there in 2019. At the peak. Now we are below again, we still see the peak, it's "just up there", but I don't think we will climb it again. Not in our life. First there's still Coronavirus to beat - and this might be a very long race - then we will face ever-worsening climate problems (38 degrees Celsius in Siberia already right now ... I mean, come on) ... it's going to be tough. And it's a really de-motivating outlook that it will all only get worse, slowly and not steadily, but still in downwards direction...? "Whatever you wanna do in life, do it now, it'll only get worse with time." ...

Yes it sucks really bad to hear the news from USA - I have sympathy for you people ... I hope the winter is not going to f*k you over, hopefully you'll be through the worst before it comes... Cases rising here in Europe too though ... people coming home from "Ballermann" bringing the sickness - a "Summer Ischgl"... What is very odd is, that I have had the feeling of a strange taste and smell the last days - this kind of smell (slightly metallic and "bloody") I remember from the time when I was sick ... never made a big deal about it, but now that I am tasting it again it feels funny ... mabe it is indeed coming back? ("coming back" as in "germ concentration rising again") (it's interesting, people say "loss of taste and smell", but I don't belive it's complete loss, it's just that this metallic taste overshadows everything, that's how I would put it ... it feels like you have eaten something very very hot (although you didn't) and burnt your tongue = you taste less, not nothing, but less ... know what I mean?) But actually, believing what experts say - that you have not much immunity and are immune only for a short time - the re-infection or "coming in contact with the virus again" can MAYBE even have a good side: when the virus is not completely gone but the body encounters it still (in sub-sickening concnetrations), the defenses maybe remmber the virus longer and will not entirely stop the antibody production, thus maybe resulting in greater resistency or even immunity when the virus returns "big time" in winter...?

Phew, I'm glad that did it for you ... happy browsing on Psynews Cool ... in case of questions or if you want the code from my sig, just hit me up ... you just need to change the link to the video inside it...

It ceratinly is the forum software. The last thing I can think of is the resolution of the window, if you increase it it should be gone, I hope... Ultima ratio is that I make a new skin with disabled mobile function, but I do not yet know how to do that.

Hi - you can embed soundcloud links in signatures ... see below I am using the embed function from soundcloud for it... Should be available for everyone, no?

In a thread at the InVision Community they suggest it's due to an automatic trigger which resolution your desktop has - if too low, the board will go into the mobile version. Is the browser window maximized? If yes, can you try to set your resolution higher? Super odd though that it works with one browser and with the other not... that's all I could find: https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/405727-desktop-browser-stuck-in-mobile-view-in-ips-forums/