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Hey, I sometimes see colors too when I close my eyes. I think it's linked to migraine... Although sometimes annoying, it can be a nice combination with goatrance. Yeah, I fortunately almost never have to use them. But I wonder ... do they go bad? The ones I have ran off in 2016 ... expiry date wise. One more idea I do have though - and that one might be something. How about homeopathy? I mean, the basic scheme of it (before it comes to these "micropotents" and half-esoteric stuff that I don't know what to make of) is: to counter a disease with a drug that does not prevent, but that triggers it. The person takes mico and nano-doses of a poison that triggers the symptoms he tries to beat. Then, in the long term, the body will adapt to the microdose and "gets used to it". If you then stop taking these microdoses, the sickness will be "healed" because the mechanisms to counter the bad effects will still be active in the body. Sounds like a creative move, doesn't it? I'm sure you can get homeopathic doses of cannabis and LSD on the free market... [edit: I mean, you can get them 100% legal and legit] Anybody with more experience around who can tell me if that deduction of mine is right or if it's completely wrong and I might damage myself?

hey thanks for the posts ... I have thought about it and I agree - it may not be the right way to tackle my problem if I tried these medications without thorough medical supervision... On some other (german) forum somebody else had this plan too and the people there really advised him not to do that. Guess I'll just stick with my rule number 1, which is: to keep a benzo in the house because "a benzo should end every bad trip" ... no matter if induced by lsd, cannabis - or my body's own mind. Do benzos go bad? I think the ones I got are past expiry for more than two years already -- shows you how often I need them

Hej so I've been having the thought that I am - naturally, rooted in my psychic condition - constantly 'on the same "level" as some other people when they have taken a reaonsble amount of cannabis'. It's nothing new, I have been thinking this for several years already. Maybe you can even find a post where I said it, but I may not have expressed it a whole lot to the level that I want to make a thread about it. But now is the time ... because I wanna know what's what - and because I have an idea. First: Can this even be true? Of course I don't have a "stash" in my body that's constantly giving off THC, that woud be a dream for some of you, would it? I mean, that I might have higher dopamine levels (say dopamine for starters, I don't know which substances in the brain are also affected by cannabis) than the average person ... levels that the others only get to when they smoke a reasonable amount. And when I smoke, the dopamine gets too high for me quickly ... explaining why I can't personally take much of that substance (I really can't, sad but true). Heck, maybe it's even TOO HIGH when I'm sober already. Which brings me to: Second: If I took a medication that decreased the dopamine, would it help me get "normal" / "sober" ... whatever you call it? Coincidentally, these medications are named antipsychotics. Uh oh. But seriously. Is it advisable to be experimenting in this direction? What do you think? Anybody has taken these medications already? What do they do? Is it advisable only to reduce the dopamine or which other substances should be reduced? And what if it is not the level of the substance but the way I react to it ... maybe my body can harvest LOADS of "reaction material" from a relatively little amount of dopamine (the dopamine shall be my example), which is why even tiny increases such as a little bit of cannabis have profound effects. How to change the way I react to it ... are there possibilities? Can I make myself more "immune" to it? I'm looking forward to hear your thoughts about this...

Ulf Söderberg would have liked that:

Jep, they are superb ... Trä is my favourite aswell. It's such a pity they don't have this sound anymore nowadays, with the female singing ... but anyway. If you know anything that sounds in that direction, feel free to mention ... I always look out for some. Somebody should do a psychill remix of Tina Vieri ... the vocals would be very welcome, I don't know of any psytrance that has finnish singing in it. Wait ... there's Etnoscope. They have swedish singing in "Odins Kraft" ... and if you check out the samples from "Länge Leve Livet" and "Frejas Kraft" (from their Soundcloud page), it's in there aswell (and much better imo)... Etnoscope are awesome

Yes, Anthony is great ... I save the studio talk video for later, definitely have to watch it, but I'll do it with proper focus. Love what he's doing. Yes, CBL have "a bit" returned to the acidic soundscapes with their last album, but it's by far not the same as the old stuff. I like old CBL -- their sound was warmer ... not so cold ... and kinda sad.

Ha, yes, Kudos for the mentioning ... indeed, I listen to this stuff nowadays more than to classic psytrance ... I know Heilung (and have watched parts of this concert already, but I am consuming it in little sessions, because it's so awesome, there is not so much like it) ... but they are not what I would call PSYCHEDELIC TRANCE In the same vein as them is Wardruna, by the way. And then there's Hedningarna ... especially the old stuff, first three albums ... Hedningarna is a great band, more playful. I'm just a bit sad they ditched the female singing in later albums. I started a little conversation on youtube as to similar bands ... also concerning the female singing ... look for Hedningarna's album "Trä" ... you will find some good further suggestions when reading through the comment section. You nordic people got some reeeally great stuff ... I just don't speak the language... Oh sheesh, soon we gonna be talking about Black Metal ... time to change the direction ... So ... for something more PSYCHEDELIC (imo) ... or well, more fitting to this section of the forum I would say (even though it gets a tad cheesy), I found this ... and that's the only one: nothing better up my sleeve your turn

I too had the pleasure of giving this a spin already. Here is what's going to be the cover art: This (in my opinion fabulous!) cover painting sums up the release pretty well for me, because what we get here is something rather organic or "natural" in its way of entrancing the listener - I mean this in contrast to much of the other stuff that is released today which is "engineered to death" sound-wise and having all computer-generated covers... Anyway, my first impression: All that the release is actually about is practically one "theme", the tracks carry the same theme and melody elements, they're only different versions of it. The original mix is a really, really long track, over 15 minutes. I can see there's a lot of work that has gone into it. I percieve it as a nice and uncomplicated piece with good progression in "older style" (not to be confused with old school, that's different!) as I would say. Bassline and kick remind me of the "past" ... well, it's certainly a few years ago as I last heard such sounds. Also the track length is something from the past ... nowadays the pieces are usually shorter. The melody starting after 8 minutes is pleasant. Entrancing is what comes to mind, yes. And although it gets stronger there are no bad surprises. It kinda evolves naturally. Yes, I probably would dance to this if it was played at a party, because it's very pleasant to just go sway to it. This is what psytrance has always given me: this "autopilot" mode. In today's music you hardly find it, because there's more unpredictable things happening. This track is something that I happily leave the steering wheel to because I'm confident it won't let me go into a tree. And I needed multiple listens to grab more details ... and I am still not fully through. Provides a good listen for several sessions. And in this sense it's a really good track! There may be little impurities audible to the perfectionist, in the sound or mastering, they are there a bit ... however, I don't care at all about them, it's a sign of honesty for me, that this was not constructed with whole track pieces "out of the can" or anything. I prefer "not 100% polished but had fun while creating" all the way compared to sounds out of the can ... they got no soul ... which this piece has The Radio Edit falls a bit short, but it's still a good move to make a shorter song. Only the ending might come quite abruptly if you are used to the long version, In the long one this doesn't matter ... I mean, if you skip to the end, you hear it's done in the same way, but when you "took the trip" through the song before, you don't care. The live version is interesting, if you make the effort to listen to it despite the really not perfect sound (at least on the release I got). I can see where this is going and agree it's a little bit better arranged than the original, but the sound is not doing it justice ... however, it's enough to make me say I will be looking forward to catch this liveact if they come to Vienna at any day ... but for listening at home I prefer the original version. PS on this: unusual ending by the way Cheers for the release I can only second the link ... and don't mind the cover, it should be changed to the pic above sooner or later: https://kaliearth.bandcamp.com/album/love-magic-master-xxpsy-systems

Cheers! And thanks if it was you. Don't know if there's even anybody else from "old TranceAddict" around ... especially still around since Yes, the Talla 2XLC - Is anybody out there (DJ Taucher remix) is still brilliant (it's the other way round with the artists, hehehe) I admit I said this before I knew that there was a lot more in this direction ... Anthony Rother for example, his music is full of these eerie atmospheres ... but still, brilliant track. Anyway. Here's one for the topic. I mean, it's not a really good track, but at least until 4:00 it's okay ... but then it gets crap The end after 6:30 is okay again The problem with so much of the stuff lately. And on gigs they just mix the breaks together.

By the way, I had to think long and hard about which track the bassline in the first half reminds me of. It is most definitely the same as in another track. The closest I found now - before my head explodes, 'cuz it drives me MAD when I recognize something and cannot pinpoint its name in detail - is Chris Pointdexter - Darkness. Comes closest as far as I researched now. even if it was something different (if I ever found it, I came back here and repost) ... check him out, he has no annoying pr0n samples edit: HA, I found it: it's Ticon - Waiting For The Knights ... just pitched higher

@recursion loop yes, me too ... early 00's also was my "peak" concerning normal trance (however, I got lucky that I found psytrance relatively quickly afterwards. Whoever was the good soul over at TranceAcddict that pointed me here, I thank him/her to this day ) ... and yes, what is being called "trance" today has not much to do with the stuff back then anymore. We actaully have to consider ourselves lucky that the new stuff still has its own name ... being "futureprog" or "futurepsy". But what I have learned from all this development, how psytrance is becoming etc. is, that the only way for me to keep my musical progression going is to check out other genres more. There's still good stuff out there and I'm super happy when I discover something that floats my boat. Be it psytrance, EDM, metal, ambient, industrial, folk or even hiphop ... I begin to care less and less about genre boundaries, slowly but continuously there's only "stuff I dig" and "stuff I don't dig". By the way, to the topic ... I have thought about it and I thought I was the type of person that judges tracks as a whole ... either the whole thing sounds good to me, but when it does, I can see across the elements that are bad -- or the whole thing sounds bad. But I did not come across a case where a sample or a single melody can ruin a track for me. But wait, there is for example Shiva Chandra & Brox - Hold On ... I don't like the sample (or, say, vocals), but the track as a whole is okay: I sway back and forth ... the vocal is kinda horrible to me ... but the track is good. Hey I get now what you mean. Feels bittersweet Awful feeling ... I much more like when I can love or hate a track outright cheers

I have to say, I actually like this - and the more I press repeat, the more I do. It's a strange and unusual piece, I grant you that, but for somebody that used to play the cheesy Tiesto mix of Delerium - Silence up and down in the past before I found psytrance it's arelief to hear it this way ... it shows the finger to the other cheesy remixes like no other that I heard so far ... it's the only form I can listen to that vocal anymore. It sounds like I'd have imagined a Ticon Remix of the song to sound like. Only Ticon made me sway like this with a grin on my face, imagining some Models On Cocaine left and right... -- oh well don't let my gf read this Somewhat offtopic as it's not psy, SCNR, but I am just reminded ... If you really wanna see a "raped" remix - or rather, live version - of the Delerium song TOGETHER with all the sh*t annoying stuff I hate in modern elecronic music, check out this: (the ruin starts at 4:43 ... and 5:18 is the point where it all cracks down) THESE are horrible melodies. This is what I hate. Right there. A trance remix of a commercial song ... with vocals. Yes, not a psy video, but it i n c r e a s i n g l y is done in our music too. What da fuq! Give me some driving beats to actually go into trance and not something like this that's just here for the kiddies and emos to lift their arms up ... seriously. Nowadays we even have to applaud and go mad if the cheesy shit vocals are some indian singing sample. Oh lord. Where is the facepalm smiley. Gah! Just watch. In a few years we'll be there too ... this is how they grind us down. Serve us so much SHIT we scream for joy when we get served something that's not so crappy... But porn samples I hate more ..... (well I'm actually not sure ) Anywaay, compared to that horrid topic off-drift into commercial trance, the Andromeda remix sounds brilliant IMO. I might ask over at TA how they find it

In the finer categorization we may differ ... but I hope we can agree that once somebody makes it to MAYDAY, they may well be defined as being commercial. Because if that's not it, I don't know what.

First and foremost, almost all porn samples are what _instantly_ turn me off! The Resurex track above there ... is a good example ... turns me off. I don't like porn in psytrance, really not. When it comes to that moaning stuff, I want no cheap samples and no expensive ones for me either ... please. Seriously, I do like what women can do with their voice, but when they moan around in psy tracks ... it just seems to me that the artist couldn't think of anything better. There are only a few noteworthy examples -- intelligent usage ... the best one has already been mentioned (yes, Atmos - Klein Aber Doctor). The story that I know (heard from somebody else here) goes, that Tomasz one day came home from a party where he was fed up with the sound (must have been a lot of repetitive stuff). Frustrated he sat down and watched TV ... and since it was late night, the porn movie came up where the sample was taken from ... "bitte seien Sie vorsichtig mit den Geschlechtsorganen" = "please be careful with the genitals" ... was obviously two people playing doctor. From that point on he decided to make his own sound ... and used the sample. He made a track - and that became Klein Aber Doctor, one of the first iconic and fundamentally different sounding progressive trance masterpieces. Even if the story was not true, it's a nice legend. I think only Tomasz himself could answer that... I do think, however, that the dialogue in porn movies can make up for some more good samples that I would even like a lot ... "warum liegt hier eigentlich Stroh" (sorry that only works in german) comes to mind. I really would like to see more of that. Darn, maybe we gotta do this ourselves once again...

Hey, just thought I'd share my favourites with you when it comes to mixes. Largely a list for me to archive them, I don't wanna do this on YT as it's across different styles. I searched if we have a thread, but didn't find one! As it's EDM mixes in general, it doesn't fit into "general Psytrance". 1) (Eric Prydz - Essential Mix 2013) I love this mix because the tracks are so skillfully merged you can't tell the difference. For example from minute 11 onwards. I have yet to find something better. Hands down the best mix I know ... and I can't believe I was skeptical about Eric in earlier days because he was "commercial" ... have to thank Lemmi for mentioning Pryda once, I'd not have discovered him otherwise (Pryda = Eric ) If you got any recommendations for any similar mixes, I'd be pleased to hear. 2) (Atmos - Bacardi Tour 08) A few years ago (yes, years unfortunately) Atmos had three mixes on his soundcloud page. They were all great, but this one stuck the most with me. Really like it, many good tracks. Atmos is a genius. 3) (Miss Monique) I picked this one for track selection. Some people in the comments criticize her knob touching ... but I don't care because her selection of tracks is really good. I discover something fresh with her all the time. 4) As the next one I'd have loved to link to "S-Range live at the DNA lounge" but unfortunately it seems to have been taken down and it's nowhere to be found online Since the rest mixes of S-Range on youtube aren't that great, I won't point you to another one. Loved the DNA Lounge mix... So then I pick this one: (Miss Kittin) The mix is damaged, it has a period of only the left speaker, but the track selection makes up for it. I really like it, the middle part where she sings - right after "Baby's On Fire" - is awesome ... that is exactly what I'm after. Big atmosphere. 5) (Anthony Rother) Of all the sets, this seems to be the only one that deserves the statement "live". I love it. <edit - removed number 6, because youtube deleted it>

I'm no measure anymore. Used to be a fan of computer games all over, but I just can't keep up anymore. I'm currently playing Fallout 3 for the second time and it's awesome. Enough said (Yes, Fallout 3 ... afterwards I'll play New Vegas for the second time, then I will turn to Fallout 4 ... and by the time I'm fully through with that, there'll hopefully be Fallout 5 announced ) Oh and I really like PUBG on a casual basis ... but I'm too bad to be good at it. And Unreal Tournament, of course. UT4 alpha is out since some time ... go get it, it's free

Yes, her artist name is "Uutai" ... thanks for the album link, I didn't have that. And regarding the second one - that's super nice! Very skillful play of the jaw harp. The funny thing is, I used to play that instrument a little bit ... I mean, I was no way near as good, but I could make tones come out ... but already then I thought, maybe that should be combined with psy. But then I found much of it in folk music so I got my fix that way. But sampling her own stuff ... nah, I'd rather learn to play like this and make original recordings before using samples ... she does give lessons on youtube as far as I saw... I have to dig out my jaw harp again, I don't know where I put it such a long time ago... Oh and that's an extraordinarily example for shitty psy ... yes, that kind of stuff I meant. Only with a Hilight Tribe sample and a bunch of people growling to the hindu voices ... oh well, it was time to go for me after that... (man this is horrible, was playing in the background as I wrote that post ... had to turn it off)

I just had a big "aha" moment to restore my faith in psytrance. Get me back on track so to say. Lately I dig nordic music, preferrably with folk instruments and a bit of an emphasis on voice. Preferrably female. Psytrance was off my radar, too much commerce lately, too many breaks, too little emphasis on actual trance, bunch of 17 year olds growling like a beer-laden shanty to some indian vocals (yes, saw that ... I can even tell you it was a song from Hilight Tribe) ... nothing for me ... but after I found this - oh boy how am I back in the front row. Traditional instruments and voice and ... this special touch, you may call it spirit, is what I miss in our music! And she has got it. Listen to this: If you liked it, you can listen to the whole piece aswell ... it's good, but the first half contains no psy Anyway, now I need your knowledge - all of you. I want something similar, because this is awesome. Do you know any? The term "Shamanic" never occurred to me ... but now it does. Is there anything in our music that has got these elements? It can even be a little less crazy I'm thankful for anything in this direction

Thanks for the info ... their concert in Austria wil be open air too ... so I know what to expect. I'll not take expensive tickets then

I think you need drone. Drone on the "psy ambient" side: (I can't really post a track out of it ... the whole thing is one track) More traditional drone (to me): (The album is also called "The Starwheel") or this if you dare :

Thanks for sharing. They will come to Austria too and I'm definitely planning to go. Seen them already but so what, I am a big fan of them, so I think I'll go if the ticket prices are payable. I love their organized concerts and their professional approach ... no cheers, waves, not even many looks into the crowd. It differs a lot of the picture one nowadays has of artists, that they're always smiling and being communicative and taking selfies with the crowd ... oh well, f'ck that, Kraftwerk's not like that and I love them for being like they are. They bring back a little bit of the feeling like it was, also in our scene. Nobody gave such a big fuss about the artists ... cool to see them, but they're not the center of the universe. Now it's all hype ... don't need that. At Kraftwerk's concerts I can be in peace and concentrate on the music, I can also be there alone and feel not awkward (used to go alone to concerts frequently, nowadays not anymore so). I'm not even going for the visuals (the 3D visuals are in fact pretty poor if the'yre the same as last time, which I believe they will be - still got the glasses from last time) or to see them as persons, I'm rather just going because I want to hear their music in proper volume

If the thread starter says he "doesn't know much of that stuff" then I'll just have a go with some older stuff: Space Buddha's Acid Phophecy is the best Fullon I know and I have not yet found something more intense. If anyone knows, gimme. If you prefer the more gentle side that was the older fullon (in my opinion), I recommend you Silicon Sound. Mostly tracks of this type: like it, try the playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt-j8Op3VdjS1Nbk6iGajg3uuXXJK95eS you can also try S-Range...

Ok, this is not exactly new anymore ... but it has not been posted yet ... and since I am the one in charge to be the promoter of our group (yes, I am in fact half of it, so "OUR" is the correct term here), I may use the current situation (we will bring out something new soon ) to "heat the oven" a bit for the new stuff and get you interested by promoting our first album. We are Skeletone ... that's a friend of mine - who's an experienced music producer who has also other projects such as Foxhole and being part of the metal band Windwaker - and me, going by the name RTP here. He's the technically experienced producer behind the steering wheel, I am more the motivated inspiration sitting by the side and giving the directions ... and together we make music! We got tired of Goatrance not being the way we like it. So we created our own. That's the story ... or well, it's the INITIAL story, because the plan back then was to do Goatrance or Psytrance - but we did something more than that. We drifted off left and right ... but we've always stayed in the vicinity of Psytrance or Trance in general - at least with our first album "On the Run for the White". That's it: Do me a favor, give it a spin and leave me a comment on how you like it. Requests, tips, whatever ... or even if it's not "Goa" at all to you and you just wanna vent that in a constructive manner ... all welcome If you like it, you can drop by on soundcloud to listen to two more tracks as teaser for the new upcoming stuff: click me to get to our Soundcloud profile Oh god I have procrastrinated (if that's even spelled correctly) this so much, I wanted to write such a great press text here, like my reviews, remember? I love writing ... could say so much ... such as how overused the word "Goa" is and that I purposefully used this term inthis post even though clearly some of that is not "Goa" to make an artsy-fartsy statement ... But now I sit here churning those few words out so that I get the post out before another month is down the line ... it's been like this for a bit now, bear with me. I'll at least try to read the comments. Because the music is good, to my ears, really, it's as good as it can get on "beginner level", which is where we are at I'd say, at least for my part and at least with this album ... none of us had any production experience with edm before! I should be hiring NHJOHYENNRO as our promoter - he'd do a better job than me. Watch out, one day I'm gonna do it! Greets and feel free to share RTP

That didn't happen but Noma - Another Time brought me close

Summoning was mentioned already here (9 years ago - hell yeah really), but I simply have to bring 'em up again ... no way this is gonna pass unmentioned, check this out please: "High upon the land on the highest peak I hear (the echoes of) the world profound..." Magnificent enough?