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what about Göteborg? most good scando artists I know come from there... is it dead there too?

interesting. I was just checking samples and I'm sorry to admit, this doesn't blow me off the chair. It's far from bad, the sound quality is actually perfect, but ... it lacks something. I'm saying that because I own Memory Shell and that one was significantly better. I mean, what rights do I have to judge an album from samples, I know ... but still...

Isn't it the same with rock music? There's progressive rock, psychedelic rock, punk rock,... and "just" rock aswell.

I now officailly state that I prefer smaller indoor parties to outdoor festivals. I always said that, but now I finally can back it up with an experience -- the experience of my first outdoor psytrance (and other electronic music) festival! I went there because Kraftwerk played live (in case if you wonder at what "psy+other music" festival a band as big as Kraftwerk is playing: it was the UAF festival 2009) ... otherwise I'd probably never had gone there. Well, the weather was crappy, real crappy to be honest, but I'm not taking the weather for the reason I didn't like it, that would be naive ... besides the stages were protected from rain. Psytrance stage was inside a circus tent for example. So the weather was not the reason ... also the lineup wasn't crappy, besides Kraftwerk I got to see Penta, Rinkadink and Astrix. So what was it then? I guess I'm just not made for festivals. At four in the morning I got so fed up of all the music, the people, the dancing and all of it that I chose to walk out of there through the dark to a train station in the middle of nowhere where at 05:09 AM a bus would take me home. Seriously, I did it, I was so fed up. The organisation was horrible, the prices too high, the weather too cold to sleep in a tent ... shove it (I mean, I wasnt enraged or anything, in fact I feft with a zen-like smile and with the certainity that I am certainly not amde for this)! I don't wanna go into detail actually. I even missed S-Range, my most beloved psytrance artist (and the second reason why I decided to go, the first was Kraftwerk) ... and people who know me know that this means a freakin' lot! So that's how it was. Kraftwerk were worth the hassle and all. And fortunately there were very nice people whom I had nice talks with and such ... otherwise I'd have become completely grumpy, which would have been the worst it could get. Still, I'll probably never do that again. Next time such a big festival's around, I'll come by car, go see the headliner or the act I wanna see completely sober and then drive home. Better off with that. See and that's why I prefer it inddor, in some club in the city. I can come and go when I please, don't need to stay when I don't want, that's how it has to be. And the wonderful underground atmosphere ... dimly lit cellars with bad air and foggy view because of all the smoke, the acoustics so wonderfully cramped ... far better than a big outdoor space with lots of people. Seriously.

well, I care I'm a fan of lists, classifications and all that though, so I can understand if others don't share my views...

this is GENIOUS! thanks for this wonderful fresh experience as for the future ... I imagine big audiovisual installation things, tents with 360° projection and such. VJs and DJs working together more and more, as it's already the case sometimes. has not very much to do with the sound itself though. that's probably because we've been through a fair lot already ... there is not that much left that you still can evolve into. I believe the future eras will rather be revivals of the old, with some bit of things a little varyin' here and there...

Nice topic ... I remember some years ago I made a hobby out of searching images for tracks (lost them all though ... new computer, you know ) I remember for S-Range - Larger Plan I had one like this:

Hey, I never thought about how awesome the music of Da Hool actually is! I have been kinda liking it in the past, in my trance years ... but as psy came along I lost it out of my perception. Now I rediscovered it ... and boy, this is great. The music is good in a creative way and the videos are hilarious! Watch this for example (Wankers on Duty): ... the music is so awesome I can even find traces of the Fluke sound in it. Brillant. And the Mama Sweet song ( ) ... totally different to the previous one, yet just as high ranking in terms of geniality; the synth sound and the voice in this one is extremely addictive! And then there's Eichelrück, a hilarious song (because of the title) with a genious video aswell! Also Bora Bora, cool song aswell. Absolutely genious. Yet there is one thing. The gigantically awful counterweight that this guy did with Meet Her at the Loveparade ... that one is so utterly horrible that I lack of words Still, the other songs are breathtakingly great ... creative, twisted, perfect. Is there more like this? Creative electronics stuff, with a positive edge to it? Anything?

I'd say both! When the atmosphere's good, a party can be totally awesome! Wonderfully loud sound, a live set you'll never hear again that way, some good alcohol and some nice people, hey, what do you want more? I can't have that all at home, no way! I've already had some great experiences on the dancefloors out there ... and also on the ambient floors ... and they would never have been possible at home that way in that intensity. Parties, however, can be sucky (or "not that special", that's already bad enough) too. They depend on many things - luck, money, good sound, good people, good timing, good happenings, my own wellbeing (can't enjoy it when I'm ill) and more. Plus every time you have a great experience, you tend to chase it next time, so you become used to it over time and thus the joy curve is flattening. That's why a lot of parties actually are not great (or "not that great anymore"). But once you manage that everything's perfect, which still happens every once in a while, then it's wonderful bliss At home I'm independent of all those fragile factors that make a party great - I choose the time, I choose the music, I choose everything. That makes it a lot easier to have a good experience. And well, because it's so easy, I like that aswell. But it can't beat the greatness of a really perfect night out - I'm thinking of a night of that "first Finntroll humppa metal madness, then Solar Fields divine chill time"-nights, you can never beat that by staying at home, never! so actually, although I'd say both, morale commands me to vote for the dancefloor monkey, but alas, me stupid have already voted for "both", so yeah, forget it...

yes, I heard of The Drone Project... and it sounds not bad, even though I miss the acid parts CBL were so famous for... it seems their music is slowly becoming one of the depressive drone ambient kind IMO ... and I wouldn't embrace that, CBL used to have a warmer sound... ...but that strange instrument in the third video is cool they could mean sideprojects aswell ... but anyway...

aye, congratulations indeed

well, it's not the label that buys the material, they just place an order at a CD manufacturer. the rest is up to the manufacturer.

I'd rather mention Ott in the context ... I hear some of that pirate dub in the samples ... and I'm allergic against that... but there are also good sounds

humppa trance? I'd really wanna know how that sounds like

haven't heard too much of this guy, but I was never very motivated to get into it much ... all I know is he's making more or less ordinary progressive... nothing outstanding, not even The Light really does it for me although the track is not bad ... oh well, maybe I'll see him playing on a party some day, but he won't be the big reason for me to attend...

omg, a new HUVA Network?! I totaly missed it, how could I lotsa thanks for the thread, mister

this is a cool link, thanks for sharing! anyway ... yaay, we are worth 20.000 dollars! we are just about half of isratrance

I always pronounced it simply "ott", like in Otto without the last o. No O.T.T., oh tee tee, oh tea tea, oh titty or whatever... And I find it god that the guy himself wants it pronounced like that aswell. Although I don't give very much about his work...

As I was asking Jean-Luc himself about if there would ever be coming a new Front 242 album, his answer was an "Uh" sound, his head turned away and he left with a light grin on his face... whatever that makes that new sound bit seems to be promising though! In the meantime, if you wanna hear something good, check out 32Crash, a sideproject of Front242: http://www.myspace.com/32crash

maybe you're right, but I didn't like what I heard and I don't buy what I don't like besides, if I wanted psy-chill-dustrial desolated city feeling I'd go listen to Ulver - Perdition City

Hans Lenk - Macht und Machbarkeit der Technik (power and feasibility of technics) sounds a bit watery and neutral ... I've chosen to only read the part where inforamtion systems are concerned ... especially the subject whether information systems can be made responsible for moral, ethnical and whatever decisions or not, that one interests me a lot...

ah, I see now ... so the record store within Saturn Return was Milky Way Rec ... got my CDs from there. and they closed down? what a pity

hey, thanks for that suggestion, I will check 'em...

awesomeness indeed... respect!

Schwanzgesteuert! I © that for myself already as a future track title, that word is awesome