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where the *#&%§ did you guys find the line up for this year's Ozora? I can't see it on the official site? If Shpongle came I'd probably be there aswell. Gotta make it there finally now after saying to go there once since three years! And this would save me the flight to London...

Well, I don't like Coldplay ... but I acknowledge it when people are into it. What do I know. My musical territory has shifted greatly compared to what I was into 8 years ago, so I know I better stop bitching about stuff because in the end I might end up liking what I bitched about and having a weird feeling of stupid-ness (as it's my case with metal, hehe). And you can't educate people to like electronic music. First it won't work and second it would just be wrong, you'll come across as an intolerant idiot. Granted, it's difficult to find people into our specific kind of music, but when you want to be in the underground and flee the mainstream that's the price you gotta pay for it! Or would you prefer if psy was mainstream? Some movements in that direction are greatly disliked by many among us ... and by me too. I have maybe one friend who's into psy and into the stuff I like. The rest are tolerant folks who respect my taste, but don't want that I play it to them ... and that's how it's okay for me. I don't wanna change that. If you are together with the right people it doesn't matter who's into what kind of music, you'll all have a great time! Oh and at wahtever non-psy parties I go to or in bars I wouldn't want psy music anyway, it just doesn't fit there anyway, no matter if anybody liked it or not! There I like this more "popular" music with vocals ... while others "listen" to that (which they don't, because carefully listning with attention is something different), I can put it off as background noise. And voila, everybody is happy.

sheeeesh ... go get Puppy NOW! That's an order, soldier! seriously ... I found Puppy better than Risotto ... although the latter one is great aswell. I especially like the cover art on Risotto. Makes me wanna buy such a mixer. oh yes and thread merge plz

ha, they'll come here on march 8th ... but I won't go... I don't like them enough to pay the ticket. They've got some very good pieces, but I feel I'm not fully into them. The songs Invaders Must Die and Omen off their myspace sound quite solid though ... better than what I've heard from Always Outnumbered Never Outgunned...

oh the horror... I never liked her, not even as I was 12 years old. The music is terrible. This is so crappy that it's not even retro for me. Dude, you already got my respect for the Fluke thread ... but now you blew it

bwahaha, I remember the talks about this one That just screams for a facepalm. I've never seen a broadsword more out of place.

hey, that's nice ... I like the sound, you described it well, it comes across fresh! I especially like how the sample is used in the later part ... most artists use the samples in a cheesy and generic way, this one has a funny and fresh twist! instant add

yes, yes, yes! FLUKE is awesome :posford: I love their album Puppy ... as well as Risotto. Even Six Wheels On My Wagon is great! Oto I don't own yet ... still have to buy that one. I think I started a thread about them myself here some years ago ... go find it and there was somebody that recommended me a group similar to them ... which had one of the Fluke guys in it and was awesome aswell ... SYNTAX was the name, ha, I still remember it by the way, here you go, FLUKE - BULLET; best music video EVER (because of a personal reason, these guys read the thoughts I had as a kid ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCDq60hMxZk edit: HOORAY, I found my old thread: http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7541

Noma.

well, they do matter to me... I'm not into this for profound drug-related mystical experiences, I'm into it mostly because of the sound (I just like it) and because I can think better when listening to this music (yes, I can ... I also can work better ... it's like the metronome for my life, when the sound is there it's so easy to do things) ... and because of the endorphines I get when running to it. Yep, that is it. I have found that out. And concerning the fullon or darkpsy I listened to I found out I probably did that just for one purpose (that would go too far now if I explained that) ... and now that I know the purpose it has lost its attractiveness. The only thing that remains for me is electronic music as a rhythm giver, as a source of ideas and creative thoughts and happiness. That's my way ... and that's also the reason I'll never stop listening to electronica ... it will just get less and less intense and more an more minimal in the future (that has already begun, but now that I believe to know the real purpose why I seem to like the music (behind the veil, you know) I'll switch down with the radicalness and get started with the stuff that can bring me further personally ... complex topic, I know, maybe I'll rambel about it again when drunk...)... Anyway, what I wanted to say: no profound mystical meaning or experience for me, please. I realized I'm not on the search for that type of stuff ... and I don't want psytrace to become some sort of spiritual source for the holy grail or something. I'm just enjoying the sound

it's an easy way to distinguish between whether a person is really into this music or not... noobs and casual visitors call it "goa" -- as in "I'm just off to a goa party tonight" -- while people that really are into it classify it as psytrance, prog, fullon, oldschool, minimal etc... at least that's a rule of thumb. on the other hand I myself use the term, because when I use it, everybody seems to know what I'm talking about ... but when I use the term progressive for instance, then people tend not to know what I mean.

I agree. They can't hold up to the older stuff, it's nice and such, not bad at all, but there's some power or something missing... It's become too much "daa daa" plastic trance and too little psychedelic sharpness. But nevermind, I'm quite confident that I'll get the album anyway. It's better than most fullon out there and, well, it's Astral ... and it still has their trademark sounds.

I can't sleep to most psy-ambient ... Solar Fields or CBL for example, it gives me goosebumps and that keeps me from nodding off, it's too good music To Sync24 I can, that one suits well. (Oxycanta I haven't tried yet.) But for sleeping I often choose some dark ambient, that one eases the nodding off. Or drone ambient. But I ain't got that much drone stuff yet, so I rarely listen to it.

but when you already lose CDs, isn't it even more likely that you will lose even more CompactSticks? I'm not talking of the few sticks available now, you can count them on one hand, probably not gonna lose any if you have just a few ... but when their numbers get bigger, won't it be even more disorganized? Sticks lying everywhere and such? I mean okay, they don't get scratched like CDs if you let them lie around, but that would make the problem of disorganisation even bigger IMO because you have no motivation anymore to put the stuff back into the cover. I ain't got any organisation problem with CDs. I have a shelf for them, with two glass doors so they don't get dusty. But with sticks? I wouldn't wanna put them to the CDs since they can't be played on he Hifi and I want the shelf organized, so I'd let them lie around or whatever and so I'm sure I'd lose them. With one or two sticks it wouldn't be a problem, I'd stick them to my keychain or somewhere ... but when they get more I'm quite sure it will result in major disorganisation... By the way, CompactStick website is updated. Looks way more professional now. The project is getting bigger

Just for the record, Atmos has now updated his Myspace profile with new songs and two of them are from the Compactstick version of the album! One of them is the mentioned "Rhythm Is"! The other one is Codename Bruno. I'm not that impressed by them though. They're really good, yeah, but the better songs clearly are featured on the CD. I therefore conclude that I have made the right purchase

I think that guy definitely meant Ritchie Hawtin. If there really was a "Ritchie Han" and his stuff was good we'd have a thread about him here ... and people making fun on how his name sounds so similar to Hawtin's...

the man is right ... ^ that's exactly what I am and I'm living proof that it's impossible to keep up But if everybody has his/her own favourite artists which he/she keeps up with and then shares news about these on forums on the internet (yeah, just like here ), then it's a good thing because people exchange and can keep up better that way. And that assures you don't miss that much (still some stuff slips by, but it's less than if you'd try to keep up alone) ... and in the end everybody is satisfied and the result is greater than the sum of its parts. Which is a wonderful thing. Or so I think. I second the Saikosounds method btw ... they've got the longest samples and are (IMO) the only ones who can actually really give you an impression of how an album sounds like. Other stores and their 45 second sound bits are just lousy imo.

hey ... that streaming thing sounds familiar to me wasn't it exactly this what some people promised for the future of music? in some other threads that is... anyway... I have never heard of spotify. But it seems to be in beta state and that's why it's invitation only ... any hint on how to get invited btw? Is that invitation thing like gmail? Is this PC only or do they offer services for mobile streaming? Because if they did, that would be cool. They don't seem to be big yet. Which might be the reason that almost no psy is on there ... it's obviously because nobody - also no labels - knows about it

ha, so I have the original ... because I remember Pascal FEOS name is in it... but it's true, these names don't have anything to do with Scooter... I'd say even Dieter is better than them Still, it's Retro for me oh and by the way ... the guy from the films Taxi and Taxi Taxi ... he's got the same eyes like Scooter's lead singer...

yeah, I have to admit you're right about that when one earns less, one can buy less, which leads to a decrease of buying which leads to the fact that also the sellers earn less and can buy less which means everybody will have less money... but of the money that one milked out of the system some months ago you can now buy more than you could back then ... at least that's a temporary positive thing...

you mean that shoutout they do in Hyper Hyper?

Etnoscope has a female voice ... no text though, at least no real one check out their tracks Sunrise, King Size Rizzla and Qula. Also check out the great song Banco De Gaia - Obsidian! (thinking about it, the Banco tune she'll probably like more ... you should definitely give it a spin!)

this is something I have thought about... UK pounds are really down low now ... guess it's a cruel statement, but I'm happy about it... yes, the crisis will clean up for sure and a cleanup is needed ... and I mean everywhere, not only in the psy scene seen from that perspective the crisis actually has many positive things ... and for us end users (except you poor label managers), we profit because everything is cheaper... and you, as manager, you can screw up real bad and blame the crisis for it when in truth you screwed up... After all it's just a matter of holding on ... a tough position (underground releases) becoming even more tough, tricky, yeah, but not impossible. Maybe a few will go down, maybe we'll whine about it just like we always do, but in the end it always was like that and labels closed down, because of crisis or not, so the progress will more or less just continue as it did. I'm not buying much anyway though, only a few releases a year, so I guess it won't affect my ordering habits...

that's right But I'm actually glad they exist because it shows the german scene is really alive and kickin' and showing presence and not just dwelling in underground caverns like most other scenes ... as I said, the stuff is available in big electronic markets ... just one shelf across the pop hits of Christina Aguilera there is psy music -- and not ancient classics like IM's The Gathering, but real and modern actual just released stuff -- and that's what I like... Goa-Head compilations shared the same fate, they too were available in the big electronic markets (using past tense here because I haven't seen 'em around anymore) ... and besides the good tracks (better than the YSE compilations ... and better covers too) that was actually the reason why I chose to support them! I wanted to foster it that the psy scene showed presence even in commercial stores ... I think it is a positive thing! My first real goa-CD (if you see over a cheap compilation I found somewhere and which I never really liked) was a Goa-Head from the big stores

well, it wasn't the group that got me into electronic music, that was done already before by a Dream Dance compilation ... but I listened to them back when I was 13 /14 or so ... lol, I was precisely the right age for that music A friend of mine burned me a live CD from them back then ... I listened to that one a lot. Scooter is awful, in terms of now ... but it's retro too, no matter how bad it is, I connect memories to it and that's what matters. I will never throw away that burned CD and might even buy one of their old albums when I see it cheap somewhere ... and from time to time I'll listen. And have a laugh.