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hey, I feel exactly the same!

I don't like the song pseudo-emo trance (what's with all that pseudo-emo lately, seems like trancers lost their balls) with a try to "hip" it up with the minimalistic approach ... not for me please old Armin Van Buuren was better

different strokes for different folks, eh? I guess I'll have to see for myself, but I won't rush to buy it right now. Will approach with care. Just one question: is it mixed? Or are there breaks between the tracks?

Marketing won't make psy music that much more popular. People can't digest that, they stick to easy listening pop or - if anything electronic - cheap commercial trance. Think for a second. The average society individual out there who works 8 hours a day and comes home late in the afternoon has neither the time nor the nerve to check out underground music releases! Psychedelic music is mostly not digestive for these kinds of people. You'd just fuel the fire for all the cheap full-on and house-proggie to gain ground, but not the "real" psycedelic trance. I mean, I'd like the house-proggie to gain ground, but still, I wouldn't appreciate big marketing campaigns... yes.

whoops, wrong reasoning I think I know it now though *cough*

Aha! Much clearer now So the hack wasn't the reason, it was just a trigger. And now I actually think I understand the reasoning behind it - member X got banned (I think I know who it is) and is therefore suspected to have caused the attack and since member X was already an ex-member prior to that and has been suspected for these kinds of attacks already some times before the resulting conclusion was that this circle - ex member coming back, behaving badly (even if there's no reference to his prior identity), getting banned, being pissed off and attacking - will continue forever if nothing's changed. And now OT is closed and a rigid policy is established to let only trance talk take place on the forum and thus to prevent ex members causing havoc. Is that the reasoning (kinda)?

NOOO! A world falls apart for me! This was the ambient release I anticipated the most this year, would have ordered it right away if I had the money and now I hear it's not that good? Do you own Ease Division 1 or 2?

Ah, nice, so I finally found the thread where people discuss this ... I already thought about starting a new one What I find funny is, that just when I'm away for a few days or decrease activity, then something happens here. This is getting suspicious I mean, I still don't get what an attack has to do with closing the Offtopic (as far as I read up it has), but anyway...

Neil Gibson's works are indeed the best ones I know. I haven't seen them hanging on parties yet, I bet I'd freak out :posford: Gret respect to this man. Shocking that one of them got stolen The best deco team (IMO) that we have around here is Calaquendi, from the austrian countryside. Check out their backdrops: http://www.calaquendiart.com/paintings.htm Some of their "Atlantis Renaissance" theme (the first two) were hanging at an S-Range gig I remember

Discogs had a survey recently ... why didn't you all tell them what you hate about it? I did, although the dialog box was called "what I like about it", but I still told them, in there (clearly marked in capital letters that it's what I HATE and not what I like ... somebody should tell 'em to make a hate box, I forgot to do that)...

A few samples there... but it doesn't make me fall from the chair ... the groove is not bad, but other than that it's not that special IMO...

Son Kite - Aiwana in particular!!!!! how could I forget that one...

The saddest song I know? Difficult. I'd say it's Vond - Selvmord ... or something along the lines of ... this special type of no future dark ambient sad music. I almost don't listen to it anymore though because this stuff is so depressive that when I'm depressed this really can drag me faaar down... Other than that, Desiderii Marginis - Still Life is also a very cold and sad song...

Etnoscope are the best you can get in that direction IMO I only hope they'll finally release a new album some day

doublepost ... merde

good for you then ... guess I'd have had a bit of a different approach to this one if I hadn't been expecting so much...

Listening to the streams right now and I don't really like it It's ordinary Tiesto Emotrance to me. Nothing special at all. A little bit better than his older stuff though, but nothing to bring a smile on my face. Thanks for reminding me that Trance is still crap as ever and that I'll never return there

hey! This sounds cool, I'm interested aswell

good one! much more down to earth than the other docu IMO... thanks

oh my gosh, Mercan Dede ... they're great... I have their album "Su" (Water). But this music I rather associate with Ambient ... "Sufi Ambient", I guess that's how Arkin even called it himself ... and I always sleep off when I listen to Su, don't know why ... I'd not have associated Mercan Dede with the songs you posted. Yet they're on Doublemoon aswell (which is Babazula's label). Check it out, I'm sure you like

already 5 people with over 13 hours ... you must be insane, guys I'm glad to be still in the average

hehehehehe But the documetary is good as it showed me that I actually don't have (and might never had) anything in common with these folks. I even focus on totally different aspects of the music! I like the creative use of effects and sounds at the right time, that's what I like ... they like rather the cosmic melodies which I actually find too emo to like. Goa is not my thing anymore and obviously never really was! I have respect for it, but the only thing it really was for me was a quick plurry instant fix for all the hate and tension in the commercial trance scene. That's a remarkable insight ... I'd probably have chewed on this some more time if I haven't found out now... Now that my musical view has broadened a hundredfold it's time to not calling me that much of a psy- or goa-head anymore and to venture further into other soundscapes

was the best one I knew cheers

awww, shit! but but BUT: in Febuary I'll have my final exam (yes, I will ... no screw up this time, I promise)! So this piece will be my graduate gift ... from them to me! Sweet ... a new Astral album extra for me, thanks sooo much, that wouldn't have been necessary

sorry, pal, don't know anything like that I could help you out with a little bit of turkish pop though ... something like this: ... it also seems to have an odd rhythm, but maybe that's just me ... doubt that this is what you lookin' for