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YIEEEEHAW! I'm waiting for that since I first listened to a CBL song. Gosh damn, I need that album SO BAD. And HUVA Network aswell... Any clue when they'll release the rereleases? And will they look different or same? Will they have a booklet?

Hey, I own that one! It's released on Earthtrance compilation But that compilation got released in 1996 ... he already had several releases before that...

Me too... I wasn't that much into it like you though. I kinda came to it in 1998 or so ... and because I had no money I had to get my releases from used CD markets. And since they mostly not sell new releases there (at least not cheap), I got in touch with the actual older stuff in that year. I remember Dream Dance 2 being one of the first CDs I bought ... and I instantly fell in love with Paragliders - Oasis, I remember. And there were a lot of other classics on there aswell (The Visions Of Shiva - How Much Can You Take). That's kinda where it kicked in. So I was not part of the scene, but still got to listen to the older stuff, actually grew up with it despite it actually was before my time so to say and I find that cool... And some stuff I even remember from the radio! Dance 2 Trance - Power of American Natives for example. We had this trance-kinda radio station, but it went down... Gosh, meanwhile the old Dream Dance and Future Trance in my collection have gone from love to hate to cult status. I sold a few at some point, but now I desperately want them back because of the memories Ah well, enough bragging...

Yes, yes, there is a DVD (the cover is in my last post). It also comes with a CD AFAIK ... but there are several different versions, one 3D, one 2D, one CD-only aswell... I don't own it, but the occasion where I got to enjoy Oxygene in the 3D Cinema was actually the - so to say - austrian "launch show" for that DVD thing (well, "show" is not quite accurate since there maybe were only thirty people in this huge cinema, but still...). They decided to show the DVD material on the big canvas in 3D in the Cinema. The material is a live recording of the newly remastered Oxygene album (you did know that he remastered the album, no?) ... and also with the three other dudes (I assume they were the same you saw) - "because I recorded this piece on an 8 track recorder you need 8 hands to play it live", Jarre explained at the beginning. The point of it all was the dolby surround from quality cinema speakers, that's why I went there, don't have that at home. And well, the 3D concept was nice aswell ... the effect with the camera centered at a knob-twisting Jarre for example, which in the Cinema looked like he was reaching into the room with his hand and playing that synth above the heads of the people in the front rows, that looked amazing. I'll surely remember that. Even though I didn't see Jarre live, but how often do the profit-greedy cinemas around here do such a thing like that ... apparently once and never again. (I made a thread about it back then (so amazed was I ) ... but I don't bother to search for it now, sorry ) I'd advise you to get that thing. But I don't advise the 3D version unless you got a huge plasma or canvas... Or maybe a rental video store in your town even has got the piece, then you don't even have to buy it?

I think it means "use the f...ing search" Yes, we have a lot of ambient threads. But I think that's cool ... shows that people still care about that stuff. If you want to bypass the issue of always somebody posting "recommendations for xyz"-requests you could establish master threads for genre recommendations (but then always somebody will come up with a special question) or a music map system - like gnoosic's one: http://www.music-map.de/ - but for psy/ambient only. How about that idea actually?

you could buy the DVD:

You saw it LIVE? You bastard I only had the joy to view it in the cinema (the "Oxygene - Live In Your Living Room"-DVD ... which had the same material you saw (I'm sure, I recognized the exact song in the video you posted - also with the same bassline different to the original one from back then) and also shows them playing live) ... but that was good aswell - 3D image, dolby surround, comfy seats ... you know, in the film you definitely also get a better view of the equipment than if you just sit in front of a stage, which makes it a bit up for the "not live" thing I'd love to have it seen totally live ... but well, it was the best I could get. Still, I will definitely catch this guy live one day, I'm sure. Glad you liked the performance Did he use this odd little desk-like thing with an antenna on it aswell? And the stick synth that he grabs like a guitar?

haha, yes, it's actually a good question where to draw the line... I'd still think Kraftwerk should be mentioned though. At least on a side note. Anyway, nice list, Kai-Q...

great news :posford:

I didn't even think of that. What a good person I am ... too good

Would be cool if Solar Fields won. Magnus would deserve some attention. Hol Baumann should become well-deserved second though! Who's Laura B anyway...

Healer

yay! she will come to Vienna but I won't go... Would go if Hallucinogen or Shpongle came ... yes, I'd go see these, even though I don't like them THAT much... However, I still prefer Hallucinogen ... Shpongle is too weird ... actually they're both too weird ... but Shpongle more...

Hooray for Magnus! The new ambient album is actually planned to be released later this year And no matter what, I bet it will be one of the best ambient stuff this year ... this man can't dissapoint, I consider this to be impossible.

Haha, no, not again ... I already got arsed today Nice try though. Respect!

Quite awesome stuff

Bwahahaha Incredible! Is it only in our scene, that promo texts for releases are THAT engrished?

I think these guys know what they're doing and use anon proxies all around the globe. You'd only block the russian people who really want to buy your stuff...

I'm quite shocked nobody mentions Kraftwerk. Granted, they don't make music you can describe as "trance" nowadays, but you can see that the roots lie there. If you want to go back to the origins, a glance towards this great band is inevitable. Their song Trans Europa Express for example ... that was 1977 and it already shows elements of what modern electronic music later on became. They also had releases before (Radioaktivität) ... but I recall them having less of these elements, that's why I picked that song. The aforementined Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze are to be considered aswell IMO, although that's rather the ambient department. Also Jean-Michel Jarre - especially Jarre made some compositions later on that are more upbeat...

I was thinking the same ... OMG

I've never mixed a psy set. At least for now. However, I hope I'll do that one day. Psy or ambient. I'd like to do some mixes ... but I ain't got no skills... Only once, quite some years ago, I stood in front of a mixer, mixing charts stuff and that. Started out quite okay, people liked it, but then I decided to get drunk and threw in blackmetal and other stuff ( ) and decided to be a poser twisting knobs with no idea whatsoever ( :wank: ) ... at least I don't remember what happened, so it's not embarrassing, but I had been told they don't want me on the decks next time

Indeed, these sites already exist for ages... And you can't do anything. But nobody can. And they rip almost everything, even releases that actually are no releases. I don't think the loss of profit is that high though, otherwise music industry would go on a bashing spree against them and not against p2p. I also don't think that many people will download that peculiar Kokopelli release from an illegal russian site. First because you're not that well known compared to pop or other stuff and second because not that many people like these dodgy, probably troian-infested sites... I bet you lose ten to twenty releases maximum. Is that worth to go up the barricades? I wouldn't. The effort you put in it far outweighs the profit you have from that.

32 euros for a ticket ... phew ... but I understand, it's Shpongle. And it's even more ... flights and hostel and such ... I know I get a holiday with it, but still... Anyway, let's for now say that I'd even pay it. Then there are still two disadvantages. First: is payment via bank transfer or cash in the mail possible? Because I ain't got credit card or paypal. Second: I have absolutely no idea where I'll be in October. If I got my Diploma in September (hope so) then I'll most likely be somewhere in Asia at that time. The second point nobody can predict. But does anybody know about the payment types? I searched around the site but could not find an answer.

yeah, right You know, I actually hate to get bumped because it lets me drop out of my thoughts, besides that I don't like physical contact. But that's just what I have to expect when dancing in a crowd, so it is impossible to get pissed off about that. I sometimes bump into others aswell, that's just human. Either I stay and take into account that I get bumped now and then or I go, that's the options (and in 90% of the cases I don't even think about that). But never to get angry. How pathetic would that be? If you can't cope with bumping, don't go there... Oh and +100 for that "put your hand on somebody's back"-technique. I always do it like that, the universally best way to advance peacefully through a crowd of people. But on these chav trance parties many people are actually there because they are looking for some kind of trouble. It's not that they can't stand getting bumped, but they just want to beat somebody up or pose with their machoness. Add drunken stupor or badly mixed speed or other drug cocktails to that and you have a bunch of pissed off creatures who don't hesitate to get on the nerves of anybody peaceful around. It's like I can feel this in the air when around them. And that makes it so uncomfortable - that and the fact you actually must take care what you do (not bumping into anybody), where you look (don't ever look at the chicks for an instant too long) and what you say (hold your mouth in the toilet queue - or actually don't hold your mouth, because then you face comments like "what's with you asshole, why don't you say anything, think you are too cool for this place or whut?") ... awful... Oh and forget that universally best technique with the hand on the back ... chavs just think you're gay and wanna fuck with them and that makes 'em pissed off aswell

I don't mix, so I enjoy ... always enjoy That's probably also the reason why I'll never start mixing music. I alwys want to enjoy, nothing more