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naaah ... I'd agree that this is not an outstanding masterpiece, but it'd never be in my bottom 5. Never. That's because Aiwana is on it ... AIWANA! ... man, I love this tune, even asked for similar tracks in kinda this style once years ago on the old forum ... it's years old and I still love it. Besides that, Clockwise and Driveshaft are good too. It's a mediocre album - at worst. IMHO Anyway, I don't even have a bottom 5. I don't have any so bad albums At least cocnerning psy ... I mean, concerning trance I still have some of the old crap lying around and could rant about that, but I guess that doesn't really count, does it?

SECONDED!!! Although IMHO the best tune by Klangstrahler Projekt is Rising ... that's not real ambient in itself though, but it has a wonderful and looong ambient intro and outro, in fact the best intro/outro I know in a track ... pure awesomeness! Everybody, get it haha dude it's not that which people have to chuckle at ... this Shpongle track is just far from unknown lemme guess ... you have the "Psychedelic Chill" compilation, don't you? That one is a damn great compilation btw ... can recommend it to everyone, there are many, many good tracks on there! I also agree with the dude that mentioned Enigma / Deep Forest. It's great stuff ... but I wouldn't say it's underrated, Enigma gets enough attention, the stuff is even played on the radio... Other than that, I'd say the marvellous uplifting beatless ambient piece Matenda - Smiri Se is DAMN underrated In fact the whole Chilling Matenda stuff is somewhat underrated IMHO...

indeed, this track comes really, really good when it's late at night, the air smells of incense, the smoke burns in the eyes and the hand holding a brush is painting weird ornaments on the canvas... However, I rather disagree with those. I hate Ambience. 12000 Suns or Ambient Galaxy are worlds better... And Doof - Sunshrine is good, but not that extraordinary...

"shitty 6GB download limit?????" dude... I have a friend who has 1 GB download limit. He's happy with it. I have practically a flatrate. I pay half a fortune for it and it's decent. However, the provider's terms of use say that you must obey the FAIR USE principle and that you MAY NOT DOWNLOAD EXCESSIVELY. They have inofficially limited the downloading to 8 or so GB I think. Rumors say it's even less. You see, not even a flatrate saves you sometimes. I never had problems though. With 6GB you can download/stream/whatever plenty of stuff. I think I use 1,5 GB a month or so...

oh yes ... and that's just the beginning! I think it will get even worse during the next few months. But I think one day people will wake up. Skazi's days are numbered. And also the days of his clones and all the other fullon junkies. It's just a phase. It will pass one day - certainly not now, now it will get only worse ... also surely not this year, not likely in the next, I don't think in the year after, probably maybe in the year after the year after that ... or even later ... but one day the commercial wave will be over, that's what I firmly believe in. And what will be left of the scene will be the true lovers of the music - no moneymakers or anything anymore, in fact it will be very underground again after that and you everybody - not only the artists, but also the fans and everybody - gotta invest time and money for themselves again to keep it alive. But these days will be pretty cool again I think The only question that is left is: do you have the musical endurance to survive the coming onslaught or will you leave in terror and sadness at the sight of how the powermongers and commercial hippies and gabba kids and chavs will rape, kill and burn all that was good in this scene?

indeed, it was a good decision to pick it

For me it would be (excluding oldschool goa albums, we've had enough of that here ... and besides that I hardly even own any ): S-Range - Space Etnoscope - Drums From The Dawn Of Time Son Kite - Colours Makyo - Shringara Carbon Based Lifeforms - Hydroponic Garden

Okay. I have made my decision. It was not that easy. I pre-listened to both. And well, the Goa-Head was better. That was because the second CD of Pulse 10 is fairly weak to me. On the first CD though Pulse 10 had some really good tacks ... the Corellian, the MWNN and the Doof one ... and the beginning and the end were quite good too. I liked the first CD of Pulse 10 very much! But on the second CD it all went down. Goa-Head 12 is better balanced - there are good tracks on both CDs. Listened to them and liked them. I especially like the fusion between oldscholish tunes and other psychedelic music styles. Although ... if nobody buys the Pulse one (which is what I believe, no psyheads except me go shopping in that used CD store) and time passes they will lower the price for it. If the price was low enough one day and if nobody got it before me then I'll maybe get that one as well By the way: The SUN Project tune is the only one that is present on BOTH compilations

Interesting. I have been becoming a vinyl person lately ... although I grew up with CDs and that. I also still love cassette tapes. Guess I'm an exception. It's mainly because vinyl I can get cheap at record fairs you know ... and I love that digging through huge boxes of crap music vinyls, all smelling of basement and reeking and then suddenly you draw out a masterpiece ... it's not psy, but still good music, stuff that is not released anymore ... sometimes you even find old Tangerine Dream and such stuff ... for a really good price. I guess I could sell the stuff easily for the double amount or even more at any time And it's not only the price. Vinyl indeed does have a soul. You can SEE the sound waves engraved on the record, you can feel it with your fingers, you see where are breaks and where there's much sound going on ... it's alive, that stuff ... you can hear the needle playing the melodies even when the speakers are off, just listen closely ... and the sound itself is richer, warmer, not synthetic, even if it eventually crackles a little bit sometimes, it's just cool stuff... I also dragged two friends along with me into the vinyl frenzy, so I am not alone with all that either and can share tips and stuff

More let-downs than good tracks? I wouldn't say so ... I have a few other Goa-Head compilations - also the vol. 13, which is said to be quite mediocre, but I find it quite good actually - and I haven't been disappointed by them. The cheap issue, yeah, that's bugging. They aren't expensive, just 10,50 Euros for each, I think I would not find them cheaper so easily anywhere ... but I really don't wanna take both, that goes more on my money than I want.

No, I actually don't own any stuff from Pulse 10 - not a single track. From Goa Head 12 I know some few pieces (as I said), but owning as release I also do none. So we have three people who say they would go for the Pulse and two for the Goa Head (although only one voted ). Including my initial intention it's three. Three and three. Damn...

Interesting. I always thought it was obvious to take the Goa-Head (because I like the series) and that there's no need for a poll actually... turns out I was wrong.

Accidental Occidentalism winning bid: US $280.00 Gothdamn, I could already make a few days trip to Budapest with that money!

Okay, I saw them both for the same price, but I only want to get one of them, not both (so please don't answer "I'd take both", 'kay?), since they aren't uber cheap either and if I took both it would go on my money quickly, since there are also other CDs I'd like. I know a few tracks of Goa Head 12 (Ra - Initiated, Dimension 5 - Limitless Dimension) and they are absolutely good, from that point of view I'd take the Goa-Head, since there is also the fact that I try to collect a few of them. But still, maybe the Pulse is better? They have been released in the same year (2001). The Discogs rating is kinda the same (3.5 for Pulse (2 votes) / 3.8 for Goa-Head (12 votes)). So I dunno. Please vote for the CD that you would take if you were in my situation! Tracklists here: Goa-Head 12: 1-01 Prime Time Plastix - Nep-Tune (7:56) 1-02 Intact Instinct - Chicago Coin's Cinema (SBK Rmx) (6:42) 1-03 S.U.N. Project - Out Of My Brain (7:59) 1-04 Dimension 5 - Limitless Dimension (Gate 3) (7:43) 1-05 Ouija - Shit Happens (8:01) 1-06 Organic Noise - Labyrinth Of Colours (9:04) 1-07 Volldampf - Brainticket (8:37) 1-08 Disco Slickers - I Think... (8:06) 1-09 Hara Gobi - Holi Live (9:47) 2-01 Ra - Initiated (7:47) 2-02 Psychonaut - Chaidive (8:23) 2-03 Massimo Vivona - Isolation (9:07) 2-04 Space Tribe - Dance Like Nobody's Watching (9:05) 2-05 DJ Alex (2) & Element - Akasha (Remix) (7:25) 2-06 Lando - Landlizard Song (8:28) 2-07 Chi-A.D. - Total Perspective Vortex (8:29) 2-08 Koxbox - A Major Problem In Australia (Saafi Brothers Rmx) (7:44) 2-09 DJ Nitrogen - Secret Society (7:21) Pulse 10: 1.1 Blake C - Nightmarket (Gabriel Le Mar's Remix) (7:34) 1.2 Corellian - State Of Mind (11:43) 1.3 Dienzephalon - F.O.M.P. (7:50) 1.4 Cass & Slide - Opera (C/S Phantom's Only Mix) (11:08) 1.5 Element - Cat. Walk (10:07) 1.6 Man With No Name - Reincarnation (Tripster Remix) (6:40) 1.7 SBK - Mitleid Express (7:42) 1.8 Doof - Dawn Of A New Error (7:47) 1.9 The Rootsman meets Gab! - Dub Oriental (Mystic Mantra Mix) (4:54) 2.1 Mittelstandskinder Ohne Strom - Elements (9:06) 2.2 Eat Static - Critical Mass (8:40) 2.3 Synchro - Eclectic (Hectic) (7:13) 2.4 Midi Miliz - Info (7:21) 2.5 Trickster - Y3K (8:23) 2.6 S.U.N. Project - Out Of My Brain (7:58) 2.7 Johann Bley - Leave Your Body (Jan Müller Remix) (8:41) 2.8 Organic Noise - Amplifier (6:57) 2.9 Authentik - Solid (6:11) 2.10 The Delta - Quiet And Still (6:56)

GOD NO!

yes, yes, me too! Etnoscope's new album is one of the three most anticipated albums of mine this year

Depends. In general I rather dislike vocals (SUNG vocals, vocal samples are mostly very cool). But there are exceptions. For example the vocals in Banco De Gaia - Obsidian ... I love them ... in fact that song is nothing without vocals! And arabian vocals I generally like very much But in many cases vocals (sung vocals) are rather an element that reminds me of cheesy commercial stuff and that's not good.

I would not pay more than 50 Euro for a collectors item, no matter how rare it is. I don't want to support this price-hype, you know. You can find good and fairly rare items for pretty cheap sometimes ... that's the opportunities I look for

Raison D'Être would classify as dark ambient IMO. It's mystical, but still in a dark way (The Slow Ascent for example) ... and there are also some more melancholic pieces (Mesmerized In Sorrow for example). It's not as dark and sick and that as other artists in that genre, but still. Seconded what you said about Sephiroth! You did know that Ulf Söderberg is the same guy, did you?

"Current bid: US $132.50" What the ...? And still more than 2 days left! Dudes, you are crazy ... I would never pay so much for one CD, no matter how rare

"coldmeat.se" ... hehehe... Raison D' Être is dark ambient ... and for people who like that there's quite a lot to discover on Coldmeat ... ranging from some gothic-touched stuff over medieval soundscapes over sick asylum/cathacomb melodies up to pure noise. Cold stuff! Anyway, my favourite ambient artists are: Makyo Carbon Based Lifeforms Aes Dana Solar Fields Puff Dragon Banco De Gaia Tangerine Dream Klaus Schulze And Sephiroth / Ulf Söderberg for dark ambient!

Ask him what's his favourite incense and his favourite chillout artist I'd like to know that.

I voted for Digipak. It is true that it's actually a disadvantage that you can't replace Digipaks when they are broken or have scratches. And yes, they get scratched easily and are far more vulnerable. But that's cool in my eyes. It makes it special. It's not some shit burned CD you can throw into a corner and forget, it's a digipak and you must take good care of it. When you do this it will stay good for ages long. And it's far cooler to hold a very old CD in a digipak without any major scratches or whatever in your hands than to hold this same CD in a jewel case which was replaced just recently. Digipaks show how good you treat your babies. And every stain will be there forever. It's far more personal, the digipak stuff People who don't want it simply should store the CD in a jewel case with the booklet and leave the digipak itself in the shelf, this way nothing gets broken or damaged or whatever...

I got myself this album I like the sound. You all know I am not the fan of "too psychedelic" things, don't you? So I appreciate this one ... it's a nice and fresh and actually very clubby contribution to today's progressive scene And I find it especially funny how everybody says Last Jedi is bad ... during prelistening this one was the one that gave me the smile in my face - and not the first track! Seriously, I think Last Jedi is a damn good track! The first half lacks a bit, I agree, but the second half is absolutely cool, brings a grin to my face! I don't see the point why people don't like it, haha ... for me last Jedi is not worse than the rest of the tracks. All very good (And about the engrish vocals ... I can understand what he could mean with "broken Jedi" ... "broken" in german can also mean emotionally down.)

Hmmm ... so basically you mean Ticon made a poser live set par excellence? They behaved like if they were some kind of rock star or something? That's what I wouldn't like too. I mean, I also don't want an artist just doing his thing and being digged into his sound and stuff and just performing his live without looking at anybody on the dancefloor ... you know, I want a middle thing, I mean, I want to see some guys live so I also wanna see them "rock the dancefloor" in a way - you know, interacting a little with the people, but too much of it is even more crappy than nothing at all. I still would prefer an artist not looking up from his desk a single time to "poser live"... Although Ticon make so good music that I definitely would go to see them live despite this not so wonderful feedback. I just consider myself warned to expect a poser appearance