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VOOV : 11. - 13- August : GERMANY : http://www.voov-experience.com SONNENKLANG : 24 - 28. May : AUSTRIA : http://www.sonnenklang.at SPIRIT BASE : 14. - 18- June : AUSTRIA

http://www.psychedelic.ru/ The second menu point from the upper left will bring you to the party announcements. However, they haven't organised very far into the future ... but anyway You should also check the scene in poland!

absolutely same here ... saw them at the end of 2003! It probably was one of the last opportunities to catch a really good, not supervisor-infected gig! It was in fact a pretty cool gig ... nice music, hardly any singing or "pop", very nice ... but then soon afterwards they went such a lame musical path with their Supervisor album that I lost interest. I would not go see them again, they can never top that gig where I saw them ... besides I don't think I can see them again for cheap ordinary psy party price again, they seem to bathe in the money-ocean now and take only good offers and that means high entry fees...

Okay, here is my opinion on this: Cinos was probably getting something from being all negative here (you know, there are people that feel good when they think they're special and Cinos was here in his way by being negative ... so in a way because of him being so asocial in normal life he had the psychological urge to gain attention - which he got here by pretending to be the negative one, get what I mean?). Thus all what he said is true to only a third or so. He himself admitted that once. However, since such behaviour is indeed childish and immature and because all the constant negativity was getting boring and predictable and just not making this place a better one in any way I would certainly not have disagreed to ban him another time. Indeed, who wants an always negative person around - me not. You need a bigger picture and light things also from the positive side! Cinos lacked balance. And he was also kinda arsing us ... because in his posts I could read that some of it was not really honest and just put in to frantically keep his oh so negative image ... and thus a certain slap in the face would do him good. Maybe some time off the computer will do him good indeed! But I'd never ever have banned him for a full year. I'd have probably agreed for three months. Three months is a nice time. Much can happen in three months. Cinos would make some time off and then the summer would be coming anyway. That would be quite nice. If he would be an asshole again when he came back then I'd agree to ban him for a year, because you see it's nothing good and that he will not change, so next chance he'd have in another year. But not now. Three months ban would be justified in my eyes all the way - but not more! If anybody would ban me here for one year I'd never come back, I'd find so much other things and other forums. And I also think Cinos wouldn't come back. I strongly disagree with one year. I would not have been for it - if somebody would have asked *rolling eyes* But I can't change it. So I just sigh and move out of this thread.

Kindzadza might be what you are looking for! He's also only one person Also check out other Parvati Records stuff! I for example went to see Para Halu yesterday, pretty insane stuff ... Parvati stuff will kick

minimal? euh ... Atmos - Headcleaner (Spiral Trax, Feb. 2000) always was minimal (yeah, in the very sense of having just few layers/effects and still being totally cool music) to me ... but it's different to the stuff you mentioned... Shiva Chandra (everything after the first two albums) is minimal too - to me.

Oh DAMN! Sounds like that party will be an absolute blast. 12 Euro for four acts I'd like to see. Man... Too bad it's not in the middle of April ... because then I'll be not more than a half day train ride away from there ... so I can only wish you happy partying

New Etnoscope came to my mind. But that dream could apparently be reality in some time:

oh yeah but this doesn't save you from the headcrash

he is right Cinos, imagine a headcrash on the harddrive with your music on. It would make its last sound - a Dark Industrial Ambient-like noise that will struck you to the bone. The song of death. And all is lost. Nothing lasts, everything is lost. I'd be the first to give you the "Cinos.justgotowned.com"-link then

oh gosh, I am still doing that "when you want to listen some music you take the CD from the shelf and put into CP-player"-thing ... my gosh, I feel so old now Cinos, if you sell any CDs, please put them on for trade here, will ya? Maybe you got something I'd pay good money for ... or maybe not, but just put them on trade here, oke?

awww thank you I wish you good luck for belgian parties!

look here ... that's the only party scheduled for the time you're there so far - not many infos yet, but still: http://www.goatrance.de/goabase/party_deta...ng=en&PID=23040 check back Goabase often though, they might add more

Wizzy Noise - Time Line (Vibrasphere Remix)

at least it was not all for nothing seriously, I feel for you, being held by the police till 6pm would piss me off totally ... ... man, when I hear such stories I even get scared going to psy parties because when there's a razzia all the fun is gone even though I have done nothing and have no drugs I hate the police! And you don't even get the ticket money back!

Christer-on-a-bike, that's what I call great news! YAY

wow goil, I love scando ... *adds to wishlist* And I'd like to scond the mentionings of Son Kite, Atmos, Antix, Vibrasphere, Ticon, Freq and Lish.

Yes, yes, this is actually true. I forgot to mention this desastrous piece of crap called TEN. Apart from this stinker I like APs albums quite well though, also the Amen that so many people bitch about. And I am also still looking forward to Open Society (after all Ten wasn't by AP themselves, it was just a remix album) ... but when it's crap "DJ condom in da wrong hole"-stuff I'm off

Man, this discussion can go on forever and 3 days. We will never reach a point. To each his/her own. I will continue to download in the same manner as I am doing since the last year or so - occasionlly, a bit ... in the whole last year I downloaded about 3 albums and maybe another 50 tracks of psy music, not more. I will not stop that. You can't make me stop that. Already when an artist is coming here to do a live and I dunno anything of him I try to check one or two mp3s. And when the sound is satisfying I'll go to the live set. You can't change that. But I also will continue to buy music as occasionally as before - like five to eight albums a year. Because I can't just always leech, I think the scene deserves that I give something in return, even if I can hardly afford CDs with the 70 Euros I have for private spendings except food and clothing each month. I know an even better move: releasing of rare vinyl gatefold LPs, hand numbered, with big fat thick ten page booklet with artist information, artwork, writings, anecdotes ... the whole thing limited to 500 copies worldwide, the first 100 coming on neon green vinyl with an autographed huge blacklight poster. THAT would let people get out their purses, hah! And when all are sold and people are craving for more, because the music is so good and there are so few records and they all go away for astronomic prices on Ebay you release another 300 gatefold double vinyls, the first one being the original vinyl and the additional vinyl being a remixes single of the first one with three or so remixes ... all that with different artwork and an even thicker booklet with pictures of the releaseparty of the first vinyl, the first 100 again coming with a neat poster. Collectors will run your door in! No matter how many people download the album, enough people will pay astronomic prices for the vinyls (yes, they will, just look at which values the oldschool classics go, you gotta make it like that!) because of the artwork and all that!

I quite like AP. And surprisingly (in contrary to all the people that say past was good, present is crap) I'm still liking them. I liked Trust In Trance, I liked Dancing Galaxy (in fact this was the song that brought me to AP back then), I don't know the whole Amen album, but what I know of it I find pretty decent too. I also found that sample of Open Society decent. I dunno, I still find them not bad ... but if they get really crap fullon then I'll also not like them anymore If they drop by here for a live set I'd be one of the first that would go see 'em.

hahaha, you know that the word "doof" means stupid in german, don't you? That's why I always had to chuckle as I saw the artist name Doof.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh man, you almost made me choke on my breakfast THIS CAN'T BE REAL! PLEASE, GOOD GOD! I mean ... look at the text ... this surely gets on the very top of the list of psytrance engrish! And the dude ... I am sooo laughing my ass off at the dude ... lol, he will be the new Skazi of darkpsy! LOL! I still refuse to accept that this is not a fake though!

it's also sometimes the only way to listen to some highly limited releases ... for example when there are only 500 existing copies of something epic dark medieval ambient on the market, all going for astronomic prices because there are several frantic collectors of the stuff out there that would give away their left kidney for it you sometimes simply have no choice!

Most cardboard sleeve promos have a cover print on them if the labels can afford ... on the front they have the same cover as the retail CD, on the back they have the tracklist (usually also the same backprint as the retail CD) and the "for promotional use only"-print. The promo discs of the big labels nowadays have even samples in them that say "this is a promo" or something ... I have a Gravedigger - The Last Supper promo where this is the case - in the beginning of a song and sometimes in the middle somebody's reminding me that it's a promo ... that is some annoying crap

Yes, that's true ... if a promo would just be a CDR I'd also not give anything for it ... I'm only focusing on the CDs in cardboard sleeves without booklet, the CD itself looking like the original but just without the jewel case and on the cardboard just the cover and tracklist printed. That's what I mean as "Promo", the CDRs are crap. But I'd probably still go for them if somebody gave them to me (or if it's good stuff scheduled for release in some months)... And Cinos, your case that you get an ordinary retail version as promo is also common - in that case the label just tells the pressing company to press 100 or so more copies of the normal CD with booklet and such, that lets the price per item probably decrease even more and thus everybody's happy...