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btw - firebloom is pretty well done. imo the bassline could be less audible "distinctive" among other sounds, otherwise it tends to sound boring, not repetitive, but boring, you could make it deeper, you know - more to feel low frequencies rather than "hear" that bassline . IMO. edit : M feat ID sounds well too, except that bassline imo lacks a bit of some extra frequencies, low ones perhaps again, no no, im not saying it has to ultra low, just my opinion, the same as previous track . this what imo could have been called goa trance, eh ppl? and end if imo too sudden, like cutted[sp etc?] off. edit2 : shit, im gonna keep them for listening, lets see how they work, id definitely play MfeatID if i would be a dj ! the first one [firebloom] sounds like psytrance to me. i dont have huge experience tho edit3: i like them both ! edit4: with some little variation in 4th pattern [yes, can i say pattern] of bassline it would be even more killargh ! but i like it alot ! edit5 : edit4 is about that goaish track ! can i give some advice on that bassline ?

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oh well, in that case i agree. but it depends on personality - some are open, some not. as for those producers - are they wannabe or not? well, some of them might be some of them not, you must judge their intentions by music, how fresh, energetic and inspiring does it sounds , combining all these elements you get the picture of what it is, but theres also human factor - does producer wants to produce because that is deeply inside of him and he wants to go deeper and explore or does he just want to make "that good ol sound"[ie - replicating] which in that case imo will be wannabe, because if you give no fresh input to this music, especially to such a pretty long time ago released one, then this producer might fall under "wannabe" rank/class. edited typos and added lines to make myself clearer

well i agree about evolution, but about aaccepting new styles - i dont think that its much about accepting or denying something just because its new, its imo because of finding yourself in that particular music genre or not

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

hey, how cen yo liesten two reamsstein if iz not a psytracne??!1 +it, sory

yeah, fuck that

yeah, i cant even imagine what a disaster it is when you get rid of your records and after a while discover that you still like them , and that they are way more expensive that they used to be when you solld them ultra heavyweight pwnage id say

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what? but its true - we have had LOT of radio topics here during last months radi ffs created two of them , just because of low activity in the first one : 1 2 others : http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?ac...&highlite=radio

hello and welcome - use search, we have had alot topics on this subject recently

well blame nemo and mars then, doh

ha ha, radi, you are simply the best, thats why im giving you this chance of a life - this is ultra psychedelic and you will get money and fame and all the other things that come with them heres the link to some label that might be interested in your music, i am sure you will find a common language : psychedelic spirit is here, radi

well yes, youre right, i didnt pointed it out, ofcourse there are the ones that arent ripped onto mp3, but what i meant was about the ones available ofcourse . so the next theme - can you all please upload/share mp3s now with those rare "hard to find on mp3 hubs" tracks ?

argh, cmon, how can you listen into a guy who pisses his pants ??!! j/k

well, because of this topic i listened to S4, didnt sound nuclearishy-abandoned to me but keep them coming people, i am interested in this subject too ! so, RTP, u dont like nuclera ambient?

well, ive never said so, and i also didnt ask you to explain yourself, nor somebody else. i think i made myself clear enough about what i was talking about - so the summary of what ive said[or what i think] is - if you cant get that release you want, you can allways download it, and its not bad, allthough many people are pretty upset about someone who downloads some oldie instead of paying shitloads of money to someone else knowing that nothing from that money will directly go into artist support . as for collecting items - big respect to people like you who care about this music so much, because this way lots of good music can be saved and passed on to others, because not everyone cares that much about music and so many copies are lost . just dont get it so personal when someone is expressing his feelings about something that is relatively close to you . i highly value people who in name of what they like [and what can also help someone else] are ready to spend some money, but this indeed wasnt what my discussion started about .

glad you made your thoughts clear because i firstly thought that its the way you feel everybody else should do as for mp3s and cds - well, as i said, it depends, someone maybe is willing to pay hundreds of euros to some guy and some not, so it isnt that obvious at all [whos most dedicated is impossible to tell by this, only if you have cash and dont buy cd in shop but dload then you do suck, when talking about available items for reasonable price]

Made you smile the one with yoda you say?

ignorant and closeminded bs wannabee bs

im sorry, thought that it will be faster [it wasnt]

You're just mad because he's right and has money and you wish you had his collection. no I sense jealousy! your senses fail Well, maybe you should had began collecting when our friend ukiro did =] and spent the money instead on music that you were saving to buy that new 4 million dollar mansion with, teehee.eem, maybe this is not the point here Anyways, I still think you're lazy and joblessim glad that you can think, or at least you like to think you do and if you want the oldskool "sound" back in your life that bad, go get people to make new releases with it, or even yourself. Oh wait, I bet you're too broke to afford any software too. I bet you DOWNLOAD it too! teeeeheeeee. Erm, I better watch out, UNIX baby! :> I guess I cheat there too. FreeBSD!another comments out of topic, more than - you are trying to insult me, and that is low. still this is not the point here. Now, hey, here's an application, and here's another sheet of paper for the contact of every artist that you've downloaded. Now ask them their opinion :-/tipical elitist attitude

"No it really isnt - The main reason for collectors to buy stuff is to own it, so they can feel it, have it in their hands. Theres no glory in owning the first MP3 release ever made in the scene for instance." all these speeches about glory is empty bullshit, sorry, what glory has to do with owning peace of plastic and enjoing music? "But, if you own the first Goa Trance release on Dragonfly Records you can touch it and you have in your hands a piece of history which is dear to you. You can even protect it!" yes, you can, but the main thing is music, and it shouldnt be a problem to protect it in this era of digitalisation. but i agree that its still a problem . "What matters is that you own a piece of your cultures history, and as such you become part of it. This is important for the fanatics..." this still is a bullshit, just because you own a piece of plastic and paper doesnt make you a part of history . this is only one way of dosens of others how to feel yourself being a part of history. lets say that some kid today will discover goa trance, he buys all oldies, now-is he a part of a history? no, he isnt, but he can help to keep it, yes. if i misunedstood you on this and you meant that owning a record you become a part of a record not a part of a history its still wrong - you cant be a part of a record just because you bought it, record can be a part of you instead. unless you have been involved in creation of that record. offcourse we can talk about you as a part of this culture and because artists produce to make people happy [well not allways, but i think you get my point here] you are a small part of it, but because you have bought a record doesnt make you a part of a history, there are people who never bought cds/lps but still are part of it - they go to parties [and everything comes with that] and do other psy related stuff, enjoy this music afterall. buying records doesnt make one deeper involved into this culture than the other, especiallly buying rarities for huge prices, not everyone is ready to pay money to some mr X. "I would NEVER part with my CD or Vinyl collection, even though I think some of them suck musicly... The reason I dont want to is that they are dear to me, sentimental value - this is what its about." there, you said it - its sentimental value to you, but not to everyone. "This is also why people dont just download it off the net, because they truely, deeply care about the releases & every aspect of them. They want to have them in their hands and pet them! :-)" i too truly care about this music, but i dont have first dragonfly cd. are you better than me ?

the main thing that i am talking about that its pitty that all those release are not available freely [anymore] and thats why i said that people should dload everything they cant get for reasonable price for their listening so your comment about "If you can't accept that, I guess you're either 8 years old or have some form of intellectual handicap." is irrelevant here and looks little bit too much in this subject, too heated.