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Hallucinogen albums Etnica/Pleiadians/CropCircles albums Transwave albums Tandu/Oforia first albums Total Eclipse albums Shakta albums BPC album

Bluntly, I'd tend to say that too, but I'm not sure they still own the rights, as someone mentioned later. So, anyway, that's just a matter of balancing the cost vs the revenue it'd make.

Moved to Music Making forum.

That one is wicked!

Closer, closer...

It took me a while to figure out what you meant. Earth Crossing? No. You know, we also happen to release something else than Goatrance.

Early, early page: http://www.suntriprecords.com/release/cat/SUNCD16/

I think Inner Cyclone was compiled out of old files, I mean, Ali didn't have some files anymore, making it impossible for him to rerecord the tracks (or something like that). And it wasn't mastered by Tim Schuldt. There it would be totally different.

I bet it is! Wicked remix, really.

Extracts, guys !

Ok it's a bit more complicated than that. Minsphere is a great artist and we're happy he trusts us. But to be honnest I haven't heard any Mindsphere's new work yet. Anoebis heard some tracks but was too busy recently and we couldn't talk properly about it. All I know is "they were super good". For the moment, we have plans until the end of the year: Radical Distortion, E-Mantra, probably a kickass compilation, and maybe also...héhé you'll see. So Minsphere is middle-term plans for me. But plans also change often depending who's ready and when. A compilation can shift, etc. If his new album is as good as (or better than) Inner Cyclone, then we'd be happy to release it as early as posssible. ...To be continued...

Oh it would be interesting to dig up some threads here from 2001-2003, there were strong arguments at the time. People found it difficult to undertsand how you coould have good psychedelic moments with that music. I once heard a friend say "before we had trippy music, now we have xtazy music". That summarizes well. Look, we were compleltely drowned into FullOn from 2001 to 2007, with always the same bass, instruments, endless breaks, cheezy samples, etc all along parties and festivals...THANK YOU. Where's the creation? There is some good full on imo, but most of it is pointless because it's the same receipe used over and over again. How many are these? 30000 tracks with the exact same structure? I even wonder how the scene didn't collapse. There was even a time (2006-2007) where really the whole scene was tired of FullOn but the artists would continue, like they made the music just for the sake of making it, not for the audience. Ah well, it's much easier to stick to one receipe you knkow than inventing a new one I guess. Personnally, in the last years I dug quite well Shift/TwistedSystem/PitchHikers, the latest Space Buddha and Chemical Drive. And before that, the first Abomination, the first XI, the first Melicia, some Psysex...but that's pretty much all. On the contrary the most stereotyped of them all are (were) Eskimo, Skazi, GMS, Bliss, Inneraction/Painkiller and all the H2O team. Thanks the worst ones have disappeared from the circuit at last. I've been waiting for that moment for a loooong time.

Hu hum ah well sorry for the disruption. Some post-upgrade deinstalled apache, thus no more websites... fixed now.

It worked without any inconvenience. Incredible. Now we are more secure than ever It is possible that the server runs faster than before. If anything goes wrong here, please report it to me.

Until now everything is all right... -->> continue praying.

Hello I'm upgrading our server to Debian 5. If psynews/suntrip/flteria disappear for more than 1 hour, you'll know something went wrong... mars.

I was 5 when Thriller was released and I remember t was super hyped, and I loved most of the tracks at the time. Billy Jean and Thriller will remain by all time favorites. My dad still has the double vinyl of Thriller. I remember there was a TV show in france for music charts on fridays or saturdays, and they showed the Thriller clip and others for many weeks...wow I was scared but the music and the dancing were huge. Just check the Thriller part with the zombies and you see what kind of artistic genius Michael Jackson was. BAD was also something. But I didn't dig most of his 90's+ work. Like another one said, the best years for him were behind. I doubt he could have made a real come back in 2009/2010 with a smashing album for example. The new concerts were just a way for solving his money problems. Honnestly, besides the musical aspects, I think his private life was a mess and this was obviously due to the very hard education from the Jacksons' father, and the fact he got no childhood. I'm not trying to say he wasn't responsible or what he did. My feeling about the "pedophilia affairs" is that he was actually guilty but didn't even understand that, for, he still considered himself as a child, so entitled to "play" with children. Nevertheless it is a disgrace to attempt anything with kids. Who knows what kind of filthy agreement he reached not to be sentenced to jail? No matter what, the popular memory will probably erase these ugly parts, and he will be considered for long of a real genius who went where noone had been before, and even over the line, like many gifted ones before him.

IMO a shift was inevitable. And once again, at the time, nobody blamed XDream for the Radio music. Criticism arrived after, when all artists turned to making minimal and goatrance almost disappeared. Many people believed these artists had changed their style because they saw XDream stuff worked on the dancefloor. I do believe that for some of them, and it didn't only happen for the minimal. Check Boris Blenn's trajectory for example... Now, just listen in a row to Etnica's Nice Toy (1998) and tracks like Warriors or Robot Rebellion (2000) that arrived during the minimal era. You could understand that some people wanted to find a culprit for this change ahahah [the example is a wrong one I know] Things like that happen in any kind of music. Just look at Rock'n'Roll and how it evolved between the 60's and later the 70's, 80's, 90's. Change is inevitable because there are new artists, because they want to demarcate, because this is art. What people say depends on the context, and more often than not, points of views change over time.

Well, all this depends on your point of view. A point of view of 1998 or a point of view of 2009? You have to place yourself on the spring of 1998 first. Tandu and Oforia albums had been released, Xerox & Feeman too...3DVision in France and Twisted, Dragonfly, Phantasm in the UK were raging too. Parties were completely crazy; it was 100% absolutely uplifting Goatrance all over the place, and reaching heights. Looking back at it, maybe we had actually reached the top and the movement was about to be longing or something else. When "Radio" tunes arrived in DJ hands, with their earthquake bass, pounding rhytmic, etc, it was a real eruption, something so different, almost refreshing despite its heaviness. The Delta track "As a Child..." was also turning around and, well, people went crazy on them all. At the core of the night it was compulsory for a DJ to play XDream tracks. At the time everyone, absolutely everyone loved the music. It is absolutely right imo that "Radio" changed the face of Psytrance, and very suddenly. It initiated the minimal phase (1998-2001, remember Intact Instinct, Shiva Chandra, etc) during which melodic goatrance almost disappeared. And I remember that, at the time, many people blamed X-Dream for that, not for Radio itself. The same peoople that praised the new musical approach in the first place See how little it takes to pass from a "changer" to a "destroyer", and the contradiction? But looking back again from my 2009 POV, I wonder if "Radio" didn't actually save the movement before people got tired of Goatrance, by introducing something totally new! Radio is kindof the same as Atmos' Headcleaner in the sense that it introduced new Psychedelic music trends, created discussions and criticism, and finally became all-time classics (difference is Headcleaner was much more criticized and is now recognized as one of the first progressive albums).

I second that. Joujouka is also verry experimental and Matsuri released a couple of very experimental stuff (Excerpts from the Databass)

Well, there was this Trance Dimensions party back in autumn 2007, in Belgium. Shakta was booked to play an oldschool live set. Before he played, Anoebis and I met him, said we were preparing a new compilation and that we'd like to see him on it, would it be uptempo or downtempo. He apologized, saying he had lots of work (Kaya Proj, Hibernation, 8 Ball, Alien tears, etc) and a real work and family life...something like that. So we understood it wouldn't be possible. Then he played. And there was this kind of explosion we see sometimes in the Belgian crowd. Everyone danced and shouted and cried! The man himself really enjoyed the show. After the set, he came straight back to me, and said he agreed to make one track. Just like that. I guess his set made him realize his oldschool tracks were still the bomb and he enjoyed the party so much that he changed his mind. A couple of months later, we had a first version of the track, then a second, and that's the one that's on Opus Iridium. I think the crowd that night allowed that miracle. But I don't think Seb Taylor is much into Goatrance anymore. Just have a look at his latest Kaya/Hibernation stuff, that's what he's into. It woould be cool to work with him again, goatrance or not, because he's a nice person and a great musician.

Well this is a lot of bullshit for not much. And worse, it's not unexpected. Anyway. AM I reading right? Are we discussing in order to make Inada confess the name of a track? Héééoooooh wake up!!! The unreleased craze & hide & seek is over guys!!! If someone would be kind enough to put back this video (private now) I might try to identify the track too. Oh, and bwhale, maybe it's wise not to interfere here anymore. Maybe it's time to realize that dicks bitching 24/7 behind their keyboards are frustrated morrons. Imo you should go ahead and try to do something useful out of your fingers, not just venom and shit. I shouldn't be expressing a personal opinion, but I think I'm also expressing everyone's opinion, so here we go.

I used to know Silicon Sound and I know he's been working on it. One year ago he told me the album was about to be released...and nothing happened. I don't know how much he has lots of things in progress or if there's a lack of inspiration or something. I just don't know. I have an addition to make to the lists above. There was an album from Absolum called "Colours" that was planned on 3DVision back in 1998. I don't know why it was never released (OK, I know more or less). A few tracks were released here and there however: Indigo, Metalizer, Green Light, Orange. Caramel was also another unreleased track from the same album that turned around. I even saw the artwork, because I met Loops (the guy who just made the BPC cover) at the time and he showed it to me. I rememeber the front cover looked like grey fish scales. I wish it was released now. Federico ???? When I think I even saw Elixir live twice....they should have done an album too. Definitely cause it was crazy.

>> 2 words: Ultimae & Cosmifleaf....all of them. Aes dana, HUVA, Circular, Zero Cult, D. Batistatos, all great! Ah yes also the new Bluetechs and the new Chronos are also very very good H In Dub is some kind of recycling, but it's aso good. 2009 is a very good ambient year.