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In fact I didn't say anyone's taste sucked and anyone can listen to anything he wants (including R&B ,pop and neofolk).I only said and emphasized "IMO" (twice!) Richpa's was the best tracks, that's all. I was expecting someone to prove me wrong and come up with an original album that would be to say "No psytrance isn't dead". Eg that happened in 2005 with Derango's Tumult. I hoped that would happen again but nah. I was expecting some interesting dark/forest/prog fusion (coincidence is I found about Merkaba today, whose music I found rather interesting) I also want to discuss the stagnation of genres in general, not only psytrance, and wonder why other genres that have been here for more than a decade can still be innovative while psytrance fails, as of lately.And it's not only stagnation ,it's degression as well. Heck,ambient(and I mean pure,beatless/drone ambient in the realms of Steve Roach, Vidna Obmana, Robert Rich, Biosphere ) has been the same since 80s but it's still the same quality,although still lacking innovation.Now,psytrance not only stagnated but the quality also fell dramatically. And when I say dead, I defined it in my last post. It's almost dead in the way I mentioned. I still DO listen to psytrancebut it's mostly stuff from 95 - 2005.In fact as of lately I listen like ~20 psytrance tracks per day, that's enough considering I do listen to other music as well. You know what? I think in a way what happened to psytrance is similar to what happened to punk. Punk started pretty dynamically in the 70s, then we had post-punk, then hardcore punk, from which NYHC was born and then Hardcore/metalcore etc, then we had post-hardcore,lately some fusions between post-hardcore and sludge/post-metal/screamo, and now... We mostly have all these things of the past just with modern production Something rather equivalent happened to psytrance just with the names changing... psy/goa, dark psy, forest, suomi,prog,minimal... (in no particular order)

Ehm no way. What's wrong with you mate, I think I got some points across, if you have something actual to respond to that, do so ...

Daaamn, even hiphop is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdQ073RCbHI But psytrance,..... guess what, in a death bed, not able to flirt,walk or fuck, it only breathes and barely survives, recalling memories of the past ;D

IDM is :

Techno (or at least bastated experimental techno-id stuff) is :

Procyon, not exclusively, any kind of psy. Well Richpa has the best taste so far IMO and Innerspace was the best track (IMO again,needless to say). All in all in these thread out of 9 tracks, *NONE* was innovative, only 2-3 were above average, 1-2 significantly above average and the rest range from awful to mediocre or decent at best, as expected. If we also take into account that psynews members generally have better taste than your average joe the Signal-to-Noise / Diamonds-To-Shit ratio of the psyscene nowadays is even lower.

Hah that's actually beatless ambient, drone even, for the most part of it , hmmm certainly not bad but a bit boring and pointless from the scope that there is much better,much beyond decent, music being made in that territory by non-psytrance artists

Is psytrance dead in 2012? Or if not dead, lying on a hospital bed? I dare you prove me wrong with youtubes of 2012 non-zombie psytrance

Too proggy and watered-down unfortunately ... :\

Alva Noto - Univrs Battle of the Future Buddhas - Digging Mud

I rarely visit this place and even more rarely post anymore, but HellO everyone anyhow =]

I think it's mostly meant to be background trance or just the music to warmup a party or end it before the psychill takes place It has some very nice danceable parts though

Great album, goa trance in modern production. Keep it up ! Rating : 8.5+/10

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Hm tech-trance? Check Trimada It's generally on the dark side of tech-trance though

http://www.discogs.com/Brain-Deflections-Horizontal-y/release/220333 Very unknown release that for sure deserves more publicity. It's hypnotic psy-trance ,generally a-melodic and triipy.It's kinda reminiscent to the schlabbaduerst sound (mostly this of vol 4). In case you can't find , PM me

5 secs (skipping included) are enough to realize it's really,really bad

What about Speedy J - G-Spot ? Also , some rather unknown stuff : http://www.discogs.com/Torgull-A-Hardtechno-Mix-CD/release/230163

It's related to Techno for sure, not sure what detroit techno is about though.I Would say Richie is minimal techno and Plastikman is minimal ambient techno. Anyhow some technoid stuff I think pretty dope http://www.discogs.com/Orphx-Circuitbreaking/master/58471 http://www.discogs.com/Orphx-Radiotherapy/release/2806144 http://www.discogs.com/5F-X-Flight-Recorder-50/release/2530180 =-= http://www.discogs.com/Monolake-Cinemascope/master/2327

Would you be interested in some Technoid Industrial-Noise ? Or some Ambient techno ?

Hm. Ok :\ I still remain a sharer though, sorry but that's how I see music =] Btw we are talking about these ? http://www.discogs.com/Etnica-Pleiadians-Live-Sets-3-Live-Tracks-4/release/1476571

I have the Koxbox live @ Burning man if anyone is interested. Yeah I am interested in sets as well. Draeke, can you please share this live @ Athens? An extra reason apart from me being a psy/goa enthusiast is also me living in Athens =P

Pablo Ribot ^ Simply awesome. Check Sci-fi Vol.1 , Urban Metaphor and End of Melancholy (this one is being given for free). Really nice blend of jazz with IDM and electronic in general. Also, Xploding Plastix have some nice moments.

Why not? Biosphere is 10 levels above CBL. And of course there's tons of better drone ambient out there. eg Steve Roach - Immersion: One

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