visine

Both of these track are outstanding in the downtempo realm of Simon's work. I think I like And The Day...better.

Hmm here's some cool yawnbient to check out: 12 (Tip World) The Mystery of The Yeti - most of the first CD is beatless Abaiso, have you heard Dreamfish 2?

Ask Raja Ram...he's got a nice DJ mixing tutorial DVD out

Iconoblast (Symbiosis) comp

Black Rhino (Flying Rhino) LP White Rhino (Flying Rhino) LP TIP Yellow CD Dreamfish - Dreamfish CD (Rising High edition from 1993) X-Dream - Brain Forest / STOP (Blue Room) 12" The Muses Rapt - Spiritual Healing / Remix (Dragonfly) 12" ----> never commercially released, promo only Eat Static - De-Classified CD (Slolstice) Saafi Brothers - Mystic Cigarettes (Blue Room) LP Flight Promo 1 (Butterfly records) 12" ----> Simon Posford from the early 90's Koxbox - Crystal /Orientalic/ World Of Illusions (WTP) ----> the first Koxbox release EVER !!! Guy Sebbag & Gal Kalmi - Kittle Unatik E.P. (Symbiosis Records) 12" Slide - Waking Up To Chaos / First Contact (Transient Records) 12" X-dream - Radiohead 12" (Blue Room) PM your offers

A couple of questions. If you guys were planning on releasing a real CD did you register your label as a business anywhere? If you registered it as a business, whose name was it registered as the owner?

click to see the silver age of Trance

Think about this for a second. If the same old sound of Goa was massively produced again would it become 'dangerously commercially compromised Goa'?

Totally agree. There was nothing exclusive about that CDS. The tracks were also released elsewhere plus there is a vinyl version of it. It's not a classic and really has no historical value in that regard unlike say Transwave - Hypnorhythm. It was old and rare but that's about it. Those that you got for it are surely much more valuable. Looks like "inflate the price on Discogs and see what happens" tactic paid off. Good for you

Please read my other posts and try to understand them a bit better. If you do that, you'll come to conclusion that a lot of the things I said basically are the same as what you're saying here. [fluffymushi]Kids nowdays have no respek [/fluffymushi] :lol:

I just gave him a call. He said to tell you to do it because he is too busy at the moment

maybe you should upload the full quality files to correct this cruel injustice then

Whatever dude

Dude there were no conclusions made on my part prematurely. Maybe if you inderstood that defending your favorite artist when he's not even being attacked is a lame way to show your loyalty you'd take your time to realize there was no harm meant to Androcell. QUOTE(visine @ Nov 14 2007, 07:34 PM) It sort of started with him mentioning how he practiced to sound like Shpongle or Ott QUOTE(visine @ Nov 14 2007, 08:30 PM) Well I just asked that's a statement. not a question. A statement you chose to quote only partially. Here it is in its full glory: I asked the question and discussions that went on beyond that were not directly linked to Androcell's work. Not on my part anyways. Perhaps you understood it differently and tried to "defend" him which now to me seems more and more obvious. Yes it is unrelated to my original reply to Androcell. Please stop puting words into my mouth. Dude this is not about winning or losing and it's not about being attacked or need to defend someone. A questions was asked, and an answer was given...story's over as far as I'm concerned........ ......unless you got another one of those "and that's why you're not a producer" or " kids have no respect nowdays" kinda comments.

Whatever. read this again: I don't see any disrespect im my original and only reply to Androcell. Maybe your kind of respect automatically excludes questioning, but mine does not.

Nope, my opinion did not change, although it's possible your understanding of it did.

Well I just asked, (I did not say you did so) here: OK cool. Thanks for taking your time to explain.

Maybe not in the thread itself but in this forum definitely. We are all here to exchange opinions and that's what I did. If it bugs you so much ask mods to separate it into different thread.

No, it does not. You're twisting my words. Case in point, I love old Etnica/Pleiadians sound, but not a huge fan of Filteria. Sure I'll hear Filteria and I think he's got some potential, but he needs more of his own ideas to be something more than a tribute act to the old work of the Italian masters. Don't get me wrong I don't think less of him as a person for wanting to make music that he does. If that fulfills him I say go for it. Old Etnica/Pleiadians I highly appreciate...Filteria not as much.

It sort of started with him mentioning how he practiced to sound like Shpongle or Ott and grew into another topic that probably should have been another thread. ..and yes I've heard his music.

That's the originality I'm talking about. Not originality in terms of what tools you use to make it. I can honestly care less what was used and how as long as it sounds good to my ears.

Maybe not 100% the same but too similar for my liking. Then if you have an artist saying he/she is trying to emulate someone else to me it sounds like a work of a producer because hey something is produced, but an artist? Not in my book. I tend to gravitate towards originality within a genre and otherwise, and really generally have stopped caring if something is labeled "Psy Trance" or not. You don't seem to do this and that's fine. I don't think it's up to you to tell me to go listen to anything. I've found what I like within and outside of psytrance thank you very much. I don't agree. Originality is very much possible regardless of the genre one's work is released in. Hux Flux "Cryptic Crynch" was very original for it's time of release and never became a "genre" on it's own. People still call it Psytrance. Likewise Orbital had a very different sound from say Richie Hawtin but people still call them both Techno. One can also argue that genres are just an illusion and I think there is some truth to that too.

I'm not sure you understand what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying use a different clay. Sure use it, but I don't agree with wanting to have the same result in the end as someone else did before you and then release it. Oh and my head would definitely not explode if artists were sounding more distinctly different. I think I could handle that easily and this "scene" needs it badly.

Are we takling about the way the things are or the way ideally things should be? I'll agree with the fact there is a lot of generic, copycat music outthere. Fullon is a great example. I don't see much value in trying to sound like someone else. Sure, you listen to someone's work and you get influenced by it, but to make your music sound like what you heard, and conscously say "I want to sound like XYZ artist"? That's a bit overboard I think. Just because you release music in the "scene" does not mean you need to sound like it. In fact, many memorable classics in Psy Trance sounded quite different than pretty much anything in the "scene" at the time it was released. I don't think "the scene" needs artists to copy one another to survive, but it sure needs originality and fresh ideas and sounds.