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I think you as a mod at very minimum need to respect the very rules of this forum you are trying to moderate regardless of whether you are acting as a user or a mod. It makes sense that mods embody the image of a constructive, positive debater and be examples for others in their daily conduct given the responsiblity they are entrusted with. I don't feel you are doing that. Here are some examples of rules of conduct and how you are not sensitive to them: "Be nice at all times. This is something that we expect from you without asking. We do the best we can to keep this place up, you do your best to make it a nice one! "We respect all human beings (and aliens :-) ) from all cultures and religions. No racism, no sexism, no discrimination." See your post about Progressive Trance quoted in my earlier post. "If there shall be Peace/Love/Unity/Respect in ONE place anywhere in the world, we ask you to do your best that it's here. Once you become a part of Psynews, you should be an open person, you should accept its members and you should contribute to the site in a way that is positive for all. We ask you to leave stress outside, think before you post and act in a professional manner even if some things turn out not to go so well for you." "Do not take any arguments on to personal levels." You have clrealy broken this rule. My comments were always regarding Darkpsy as a music genre. You however have resorted to personal level and name calling (i.e. "ignorant f!@#s") You have openly admitted your frustration with posts other people made in different threads about Darkpsy and allowed that frustration to shape your conversations with me, even though I had nothing to do with your exchanges with other people. This is not a positive or contructive behavior at all.

Yes he did right here:

Rotwang I don't think you are capable of being a mod and should quit doing it for the following reasons: 1) You are willing to go reduce yourself to low levels of bigotry just to try teach someone a lesson: 2) You are arrogant by your own admission 3) You are willing to resort to personal attacks and call people "fucks" just because they call the music you like "incoherent/random" 4) You threaten Elysium, a guy you clearly don't like, even though he did not cross any lines. He was voicing his disagreement (however right or wrong) with Tatsu in a civil manner without any personal insults. Can't help but think you have a personal vendetta against him from your previous exchanges with him. 5) I think you are hypocritical for portraying yourself and your darkpsy friends as respectful to other genres, yet you are dead silent on exotic's post "Goa trance people only listen to Goa and as a result have become narrow-minded to the extent that they feel no other genre of music can come close to feelings of extacy, oneness and joy it can bring." He not only generalizes about Goa trance as music, he does so about people who listen to it. If you were that sensitive for me calling Darkpsy "incoherent/random" what would you then say if I called people who like Darkpsy narrow minded? Not only were you silent on that exotic's comment, but you proceed to defend him when he asks for your help: I find that very hypocritical and biased....... I think you should quit or be relieved of the mod duties. I believe it's too much of a challenge for you to handle.

This post: ...........along with your arrogant attitude, calling other people "fucks" has reminded me of this CD press release line: "This is not music for hippie fucks who need to edit out swear words from their sets to keep from upsetting their clan of falsely enlightened psychedelic hipster fans." http://www.saikosounds.com/english/display_release.asp?id=7533

Read my post. I did not try to prove anything. He asked me to describe how I felt. The image of that promo text just came to mind for some reason....

Dude, I'm at loss for words as to how to reply to your post. Don't even know where to start or what to say. For some reason the first thing that came to my mind was a line from the text of the release notes of that CD I referenced on Saikosounds in this link: http://www.saikosounds.com/english/display_release.asp?id=7533 The line says the following: "This is not music for hippie fucks who need to edit out swear words from their sets to keep from upsetting their clan of falsely enlightened psychedelic hipster fans."

:o

What are you trying to say here? People who listened Goa Trance since day one that are a problem? I'd be curious to know more of your opinion here. How listening Goa Trance from early days would be a factor here?

Agreed !

WTF people who like Darkpsy worship Satan? Are you suggesting I said that ? Read again what I wrote in this thread: "Sure, not all Darkpsy is Satanic but pretty much all of satanic themes in Psy scene do fall under Darkpsy...most of it I find cheesy " You're trying to portray a picture of yourself as a tolerant, respecting dude, yet you're willing to call people "ignorant fucks" for saying the music you like is "incoherent/random". Now that's a dick move if there is one.

Maybe you should stop trying to discredit me based on my command of English language and try to understand the clarification on the very first page of this thread. You should also try to get off your high horse and tell others how their perception and taste is "not a fact" and somehow yours is. I've never claimed objectivity, bot neither can you. As Kristian has rightfully pointed out, it comes down to ones taste and perception. There is no absolute right and wrong there.

Well I said it almost exactly the same way on the very first page. Have a look: Anyways, better later than never, so I think we have an understanding now.

At last some voice of reason. 100% agreed.

That's how you interpret it. You do seem to have trouble with other people's interpretation and somehow think yours is correct and other people's interpretations are not. How boring would art be if everyone perceived it in the same way?

To me a lot of darkpsy sounds like random noise. That is not an objective judgement. That is my opinion and taste. Sure, not all Darkpsy is Satanic but pretty much all of satanic themes in Psy scene do fall under Darkpsy...most of it I find cheesy

I think darkpsy is cheesy. That is my opinion and taste...I decide how informed it will be before I make that judgement, not you.

Exactly my point....be careful though, they migh attack you stating that it is incorrect to say there isn't much going on in the tracks. It doesn't jive with their darkpsy agenda. It may be tough for them to understand that it is your taste and opinion.

Perhaps facts that everyone is entitled to their own taste and opinion, that they are free to express them in forums such as this one did not penetrate yours? Here's something really funny: http://www.saikosounds.com/english/display_release.asp?id=7533 Check out the cheesy cover and Hardcore/Gabber wannabe promotional text: "Established in 2008, Red Magik Records (USA) is the branch of Thee Magik Family of labels and artists dedicated to in your face, heart stopping sound terror. Red like blood and lust and the high end of the meter, Red Magik delivers boundary breaking, tempo peaking sound destroyers for the DJ and discerning listener of extreme and experimental dance music. Not for the light of heart. With Speed Demons Vol. 1 - Censorship is Uncool, Thee Magik Family sets a new standard for psychedelic audio destruction. This is not music for hippie fucks who need to edit out swear words from their sets to keep from upsetting their clan of falsely enlightened psychedelic hipster fans."

You're just sour grapes someone's not speaking highly of darkpsy. I think it sounds bad...like really really bad to make me laugh instead of being spooked by its "darkness" lol

I also find most darkpsy to be very cheesy. Those devil/damon covers are hilarious... It's a genre that wants to be dark but can't quite accomplish it nowhere near the level some others do, wants to be hard and fast hitting but doesn't quite accomplish it like others do either....a total wannabe genre with some exceptions here and there. I find nothing dark or scary about it. It's like a very bad horror movie that is so bad that it's actually funny. By the way, production is also very amateurish...

Sorry I didn't supply any scientific proofs or studies it is random. From now on you can consider my posts as my opinions based on my perceptions unless otherwise noted. Actually they are not my favorites I just mentioned them to see how you gonna use them to try annoy me. I wondered if you'll bite and use it to say something nasty....quite funny to see you did ..LOL

If that bold part of your very statement is not absolutist I don't know what is. Darkpsy is in my opinion incoherent, random noise....most of the time.... here you are saying I am incorrect. You're behaving like got a license to tell others how they should be perceiving art....well, you don't. Proves my point above. You're just sour grapes because someone doesn't speak highly of darkpsy. It's obviously annoying you, but that is your problem. I don't think I or anyone else should be apologizing for their views on what certain music sounds like to them. I like progressive trance like Vibrasphere, Son Kite etc. ...and no it would not annoy me to see a comment about music I like, because people are entitled to experience it in their own unique way....which is something you seem to be struggling to cope with.

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