GagaISM

Life of a star-producer

Sure. Thanks a lot! Did they ever go 100% digital?

Of course, but there was a lot of Techno artist that abandoned the 303 around 1990 to separate themselves from Acidhouse. So one shouldn't take the use of any machine for granted. There's a lot of hardware that never made it into the "Goa sound". Does anyone know if the hardware used on old Astral Projection and Juno Reactor releases has been listed anywhere?

Koxbox for sure. I used to appreciate their sound and compositions as a whole, but now I can just zone in on each individual part and be in total awe. There's so much going on and yet they've managed to retain such a sense of space. I've on the other hand also begun to notice how a lot of modern releases tend to sound impressive at first, but once I pick through the layers I end up finding each of them very dull on their own. That's one of the main problems with software. It lacks the fat analog textures. Everything ends up sounding thin and lifeless, so people create a ton of layers in an attempt to hide it/make it sound good. Just try and have kick running in Ableton and you'll instantly notice how it's the same sample being played over and over again. A real drum machine will create tiny variations on every hit, and will thus have a natural groove to it. It's just a few small examples, but it makes a world of difference to me. Both as a listener and a producer.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4JopL75jM

That's true. I still wonder if there is any hardware that set Goa apart from the rest of Techno. Just like the Alpha Juno 2 "hoover" in Hardcore. The extensive use of the Nord Lead maybe...

Now that we're talking about the 303, does anyone know who was the first to use it in Goa/Psy Trance?

It's hard to emulate an analog instrument in the first place, but the 303 is probably one of the hardest. I've never heard anything but a 303 sounding like a 303. Not even the hardware clones like xoxbox and Acidlab.

The guy who uploaded the video on youtube says that he has a better quality rip. How good I don't know, but hopefully good enough for a release.

The more I've learnt about production the more I've learnt how to recognize talent. That extra little thing that separates the greats from the not so greats. It might have changed my perception of a few artist in a negative way, but I've come to appreciate others so much more.

I'd rather much rather know what's going on than enjoy something which is actually generic shit. I can't stand the idea of "lost innocence". It's such a christian concept. A 909 will always be a 909, but only one in a million can play it like Mills.

I had the feeling that a lot of people didn't hence the thread. You often see the analog vs digital discussions, but the actual programming possibilities (and limits) played just as big a role in creating the classic Goa sound. There's thus a compositional aspect to analog equipment as well which I find very interesting. It never ceases amaze me how an act like Koxbox managed to do completely new things with much of the same equipment used by their peers.

The Roland TR-909 was the first drum machine to introduce the punchy kick most Techno music is known for. It's been used by everyone from Jeff Mills to Astral Projection. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_TR-909

I was recently told that Koxbox used the classic Juno synths, Nord lead, Akai samplers, the TR-909 and one I hadn't heard about before: http://www.vintagesynth.com/misc/oscar.php

Would be cool to create some kind of timeline. Like when the Nord Lead was first introduced etc. That's something we haven't really delved into here on psynews.

I've noticed that most Trance listeners don't care much about the technology behind the music. There is a tendency to listen to and judge the music solely on melody and feel. Nothing wrong with that, but quite interesting as gear feticism is rampant in most other electronic genres. How many of you people know what a Roland TR-909 or JP-8080 is and do you even care?

I think Ian and Peter will agree on that as far as live playing goes.

Indeed! It would be amazing to get a proper rip of this show.

I'm looking for tracks themed on or dedicated to these Gods. Thanks

Never imagined I'd encounter a yuppie on a psy forum

Process - One Drop or Two (also out on Creamcrop) is what you need.

Again this - http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?/topic/62585-creamcrop-records/page__fromsearch__1

I was on that roll about a year ago. You'll find every essential release you'll need to hear in the following threads: Iboga Records http://www.psynews.o...__fromsearch__1 Creamcrop Records http://www.psynews.o...__fromsearch__1 Heavy, Pounding Minimal http://www.psynews.o...__fromsearch__1 That rare 2001 Sound http://www.psynews.o...__fromsearch__1

Good question.