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traveller - (---.elisa.omakaista.fi) SMI²LE

BTW XTC = Extacy, not speed... but anyway... SMI²LE

don't know, but is the movie any good? SMI²LE

ROFL!!!! That's the funniest video I've seen in a long time!!! EXCELLENT!!! SMI²LE

Well, actually, Yahel dramatically changed his style from his second album. He released For the People and Waves of Sound in 2000, which both have very similar styles and are quite close to the israeli oldschool sound (namely Astral Projection...). The track Last Man in the Universe is IMO Yahel's best track and one of the best morning tracks ever made!! Now, for some odd reason, after those very good albums, Yahel simply decided to change his style!! He decided to follow the trend and make his music more minimalistic (less sounds and melodies) and "funkier" with Private Collection. Then he kinda returned to melodies with Hallucinate (but it's still light years away from his first 2 albums). BUT people who didn't like the israreli oldschool sound found that Private Collection and Hallucinate were better!! So it all depends on your tastes. Do you like old Astral Projection? If you do, you can't go wrong with Waves of Sound. If you're more into modern "funky" israeli stuff, then you'd probably enjoy his latter albums more. SMI²LE

what a pretentious nick... SMI²LE

well, from what I hear, the actives are a lot worse than the passives. Aparently you're better off with a pair of "normal" Tannoy reveal + a good amp. SMI²LE

"Why do you listen to psytrance? " he he, well I'd like to give you one of those "philosophical" replies which finds a link between psytrance and the spiritual development of human beings and how this link between music and exploring the unconscious mind has been a caracteristic of human kind since day 1... but actually I guess that the main reason for me is force of habit... In 96, goatrance simply was the genre that blew me away, comparing it to other musical genres was like trying to compare an intergalactic spaceship to a pink bicycle for 12 year-old girls... but now things are different, the "mysterious atmoshperes" and complexivity are long gone and I find myself wondering why do I spend my time listening to psy instead of looking for some other genre that took everything that made goatrance great in the early 90s (supposing that there is such a genre out there). SMI²LE

well, I could come and coment that Shpongle is merely a bunch of copy-pasted loops from well-known ethnic music, with a bit of special effects and psychedellicness added to it, and of course, Raja Ram's flute on top... If you ask me, Entheogenic is WAY more creative than Shpongle. SMI²LE

oh no... another one... SMI²LE

we don't take kindly to GMS lover around here... :-) SMI²LE

well Kant, I suppose you're even more confused now than when you first asked the question well, to confuse you even more, here's a copy-paste of an older post of mine in which I attempted to fully classify today's psytrance: "here's my list of "sub-genres" (not perfect, you can always find flaws cause any clasification method is bound to show its limits, but like Aaron said, I find it good to say what sub-genre a person likes so he/ she can find CDs he/ she likes more easily) morning trance: well, there are 2 categories in there... sub-subgenre 1 is the "real" morning trance as purists would say, rather slow BPM, never above 120 and very relaxed airy feeling, with a lot of nature samples. examples: Feuerhake, Kode IV, Zorba, Bodh Gaia, Element, Son of the Light, 1200 Micrograms - Ayahuasca... (this is also what comes closts to the "original trance" that was played in Goa in the early 90s) sub-subgenre 2 (my favorite!!) , (also called israeli-trance cause most artists making it were from Israel, although this is changing now) is more dancefloor-oriented, the kind of music that's played in parties when the sun rises: fast, between 130 - 150 BPM, usually very emotional and "catchy". Usually you go home from a party having that tune in your head. Examples: Yahel - Last Man in the Universe, Chi AD- Eye am the I, Astral Projection - People Can Fly, Zorba - Datora, Space Tribe Vs. Electric Universe - Alkaloid Experiement, Transwave - The Rezwalker, UX - Masters of the Universe, Ra -ROM, Dimension 5, Man With No Name - Teleport... (you can probably tell by the tracklist that this is what was usually called "goatrance" around 1996 by record labels that thought they coined a new "hip" term) 3D Vision-style/ Full-on (called like this because the label "3D Vision" specialized in this kind of music, but then they were copied by many labels): fast 140- 150 BPM, melodic but more harsh-sounding, more on the agressive side of things (and some would say "more E-oriented"). Examples: Talamsaca - Come On, Absolum - Drumatrix, Nomad, GMS, Alien Project... Minimal/ Psy-tekk: more techno-influenced, a lot less "challenging" then the other styles, more bass-driven. This style hit us around 1998, and some loved it and considered it was a welcome change to the usual melodic stuff, others (like me...) found it had nothing to do with "psy". Untill this year, about 80% psy releases were minimal, but this is changing now. Anyway, that doesn't mean you can't find artists that are doing good stuff... Examples: X-Dream - Radio (the one that started it all IMO), Kopfuss Resonator, Shiva Chandra - Gecko, MOS - Drive,... Nitzhonot - Well, most people will say this isn't really psy... it's done mostly in Israel and Greece and it sounds like kids playing around with cartoon-samples and melodic psy ideas, but not something very coherent. It's sorta like melodic/ israeli trance pushed to the limit of commericalism. Examples: Eyal Barkan, Holy Men, Cyan,... Industrial goa - Harsh, dark-soudning goa, with distorted noises, fast, indsutrial-inflenced. Examples: Battle of the Future Buddhas, Tim Schuldt - Single Collection, Ka-Sol,... Finish trance/ aussie trance/ Psyharmonics stuff: (called like this cause most artists doing it are from Finland/ Australia/ or usually release their stuff on the labe Psyharmonics): Very wierd trance, with a lot of crazy and innovative ideas, very random, doesn't seem like it's "going somewhere". Some love it, others utterly hate it. Examples: Texas Faggot, Haltya, early Space Tribe, Shaolin Wooden Men, Loopus in Fabula, Odd Harmonic... ... well, there you go, this isn't perfect, but it will allow you to clasify about 90% of the releases out there..." SMI²LE

Entheogenic's 2nd album has been released on a compilation!! (yeah, I know it's wierd...) Anyway, you can find it on Global Psychedellic Trance Vol. 9 from Spirit Zone SMI²LE

LOL!! SMI²LE

"It's not the usual boring psytrance, that's the problem?" Well IMO there's a way to have unusual exciting trance but which doesn't sound as random as finnish stuff, like Electrypnose for example... anyway, I don't want to get in a 100+ post discussion on personal tastes, if you people like finnish stuff, fine with me SMI²LE

then you really should re-listen to some of his tracks dude SMI²LE

yeah they are subjective but there is a minimum of objectivity in them... NOBODY could say that Son Kite and Talamasca have almost the same sound... SMI²LE

OK, now I'm confused too... SMI²LE

"Ok, then please describe me Talamasca's, 1200 mics and Alien Project's sound." duuuude, if you feel that these artists have a strong bassline and a little melody in the end, I STRONGLY suggest you re-listen to them!!! OK, maybe Alien Project is different, but Talamasca and 1200 mics are FULL of melodies!!! But I don't ask you to take my word for it... Just listen to any of the "Full-On" comps released by Hommega (they wouldn't have called it full-on if it was minimal...) and tell me what you think. OK, compared to oldschool, even today's full-on is lacking melodies, I agree, but it certainly has more melodies than minimal... SMI²LE

err... no, I'd call what you're describing minimal actually... If what you say is true, then Parasence would qualify as full-on??? I don't think so... SMI²LE

yeah well, I could release a CD of me farting into a mic for 75 minutes on 140 BPM... it would be original but I doubt anyone would go crazy about it either... ah well, to each his own... SMI²LE

"haltya - forest flavour was totally killer....." how could people like that??? It sounded like (crappy) psy remixes of 70s disco music!!! SMI²LE

hehehe some people who know their psy (like Goa Gill...) actually happen to love Neuromotor!!! SMI²LE

well I actually find it BETTER than Shpongle!! SMI²LE

psytrance is the generic term for everything released by psy lables. So anything would qualify as "psytrance" from Shaolin Wooden Men to Astral Projection. "Full-on" is a term used for designating goa with a lot of sounds (melodies) which is used as oposed to "minimal" which has less sounds in it... and of course, purists (like me...) will tell you that nothing our days, be it full-on or minimal comes close to that complex mysterious oldschool sound... but that's a different story ;-) oh and if you want examples of genres, full-on would be stuff like Talamasca, 1200 Mics, Alien Project, Dynamic, Eskimo,... and minimal would be stuff like Son Kite, Shiva Chandra, Trancefeld, Ticon,... and oldschool would be older stuff released by Astral Projection, Total Eclipse, Prana, Cosmosis, Man With No Name... (ahhh, that's the stuff!!!). SMI²LE