Lemmiwinks

ok, I should try out your album than

as long as you still have a 303, a 101 and a Juno in your studio I don't see the problem yeah, that's why I said similar and not identical

man are people still interested in what this guy releases? his last decent track was in like 1998...

to tell you the truth I've never listened to his album... I know that I wasn't a big fan of his work on comps and his friends' album Tits on Fire was quite forgettable IMHO in spite all the hype surrounding it... so I didn't really see why I would get a copy of the GoE album. But maybe I'm wrong?

maybe but at least back then you'd read a review and know if the album was worth buying... that is so not the case today...

well from all my listenings only one track seems to qualify for that: Psyfactor - Fear Square... anyone knows of other such tracks?

Well I liked Psyfactor I found he's one of the only ones who still sticks to putting dark atmospheres in his tracks whereas most "dark psy" artists today basically make Detroit techno with a rolling bassline (not saying I don't like it though )

of course tastes are personal but for me they all bit the dust... and Simon P I like only for his ambient work, psytrance-wise for me he's gone down the drain ever since that crappy collaboration with IM Fly Agaric... and for me Benji Vaugh and Tristan sucked from day 1 as well

look mate if they made the track and SOLD it as the latest AP release then I'd totally agree with you. But this was charity work for a good cause... If Michael Schumacher made a drive safely campaign to save lives, would that mean that he's not a good racing driver?

ah man I can't believe AP is getting such a bad rap for an anti-aids campaign... Look: DJ Condom is NOT representative of their work! The CD is NOT sold in any shops!! It was simply charity work for an anti-aids organisation. Of course you need a massage like "Wear a Condom" when you're doing an anti-aids campaign, what did you expect?? Anyway, yes, AP has been slowly degrading ever since In the Mix, there were only like 3 acceptable tracks on Amen and now I only listen to Nexus. But who knows, maybe they'll surprise us this time? let's wait and see

Believe it or not I've NEVER understood the hype behind that group... while we're at it, I've never really understood Atmos and Son Kite either...

well actually Miranda is the ONLY oldschool artist that didn't dissapoint me by her change in style! She was man (woman...) enough to admit that oldschool has lived its day and it was time to move on yet she didn't join the army of full-on or progressive producers as most oldschool artists did. Instead she just developed her own style. Sure it's not as engaging as her oldschool classics but hey we all gotta move on at some point in life, no? And now for the long list of artists that really bit the dust for me: Graham Woods (former TIP producing now under the name Blowfish) Sandman Shakta Cosmosis Man With No Name Joti Sidhu (former Psychaos) Dino Psaras (former Cydonia) Tsuyoshi Suzuki (former Prana) Dado and Christophe (former Transwave now producing as Deedrah and Absolum) GMS (believe it or not these guys started out by making oldschool...) Jaïa Manmademan Medecine Drum Space Cat Offer Dikovski (behind Oforia, Pigs in Space and Tandu) Planet BEN Talamasca Tim Schuldt Yahel ... and it just goes on and on...

of course they are: they're the ones making true progress in art, the ones that the next generations will look back on and say "man, those idiots living in the 21st century didn't even see the talent behind this, they only bought conventional crap that isn't worth shit today"

um-hum yeah, a nice smile *wink wink* anyway, back to the main subject: if you want to explore this even further, true creativity isn't even a job or talent or anything, it's more like a disease. Scientists studied what made talented artists like Van Gogh or Mozart tick and they seem to agree that it has a lot to do with an affection of the temporal lobes: basically these people have a form of dementia and are pretty miserable all their lives, but the positive side is that they create things that are way out of reach of a "normal" mind. True creativity has nothing to do with the money... of course, I'm not saying that it's right for everyone to download mp3s and for artists to have to live on wellfare, I'm just saying this to put things into perspective (BTW wellfare also only exists from the second half of the 1900s, before artists didn't even have that... let alone the part-time job at McDonald's or Shell). So basically, on one hand in history you had these "freaks" who'd like to be normal but can't, they lived as outcasts all their lives and only got the recognition they deserved generations after their death and now you have people who think that they're due a few thousand dollars for a track just because they bought a PC with a dual-core processor and Fruity Loops (cause if they'd actually bothered investing into a 303 or a 101 the music would actually sound good) ok, I'm exagerating a bit but why not think about it this way?

ok, then I correct my statement: it is THE perfect dark trance track to date

well then please tell me what is THE perfect dark trance track for you

Here is my first experience with Derango. First of all, WHAT THE HELL IS FOREST TRANCE??? I was all happy to get an album with "forest trance" and expected something wierd with night owls hooting while trolls are singing in the background and the bassline sampled from the sound of raindeers making love. Instead I just got another dark trance album... Sure, there are some very unique sounds on this that won't be heard anywhere else. But from that to label this as a whole different genre? come on... I mean, artists like Penta and Xenomorph also do dark trance with very unique sounds, yet it's still called "dark trance". Anyway, on to the album itself: I like this a LOT, there are indeed some very intense moments. My fave track is no. 6 The Poisonous Square which is like THE perfect dark trance track. The dynamics (which are already pretty intense all throughout the track) pick up even more around 6:30 and make out one of THE most intense moments of a track I've ever heard!! Second in line comes Lost Theory starting around 5:40. It's like the adrenalin rush overcomes you. BUT there are also downsides to this album: my main issue is that there aren't enough melodies!!! There are some absolutley killer melodies that only last like 20 seconds and then dissapear never to be picked up again! That's such a shame! I'm talking about stuff like the melody starting at 1:55 in track 1 and which lasts only until 2:20 (yes, that's 25 seconds in total out of a almost 9 minute-long track...). Also my next main issue is that, although I like this album and find it pretty intense, it simply didn't grab me by the balls the same way other dark trance albums did in 2005 like Ocelot, Para Halu and Penta... Well I guess the competition was pretty fierce that year (writing this review in 2006). So this gets a 8,5/10 from me fave tracks: 4, 6 (!!!), 7 (!!) PS about the basslines: it's all about the drugs man. Basslines in the kbbb kbbb kbbb formula are VERY drug-friendly, they just "push" your high up and up as your bones rattle contiuously... why do you think just about every psytrance track being produced our days has that bassline anyway? lol And of course if you want to even begin to enjoy those basslines you need a sub turned very LOUD. Then it all starts making sense But indeed I'd go for a little more change in the basslines as well (Ocelot style)

hmmm well I've listened to it and... I don't really like it... this is "goofy full-on", pretty similar to the South African style which has been much hyped at the beginning of 2005 (and which I didn't really like either...). When you know that Colin was behind a certain goatrance all-time classic named OOOD - Kundalini you can't help feel dissapointed when you hear this album Now I'm not saying that this is all bad either!!! There are a few tracks that I rather enjoy and that show that these guy's roots go back to the good ol' oldschool days. So naturally I like Go Downtown which is very nice (and they finally managed to tone down the "goffyness" a bit on this one). I haven't heard the original of It's Just a Ride but the remix sounds pretty good as well. And the piece de resistance which is We Are Free . Ah such good ol' nice atmospheric morning trance, this one and basically the only one that reminds me the OOOD days. Now if only all the tracks were like this one, I'd say that this was easily one of the best albums of 2005... but sadly it isn't 7/10 for the exceptional last track Please Colin give us another OOOD oldschool album and cut this full-on crap, it's not worth your time and effort!!!

FACT: since the beginning of time, a part from a few rare exceptions, good artists have always lived poor, died miserable and were buried in common graves... Things only changed in the second half of the 1900s with mega producers and artists with private jets and all... so today's trend is actually an exception from the rule...

well that's odd cause ever since I've heard of them I've always heard of only 2 members (David and Magnus)... maybe someone else has info on this? oh and dude, "forest trance" is just another one of those buzzwords which don't really mean anything... I mean just think about it: ALL psytrance, from the early goa days was made for outdoor parties, of which a large proportion happen in forests... so how can the term "forest trance" describe a particular genre??? To put this in perspective, a few years ago Battle of the Future Buddhas' sound was described as "the Scando sound" (also a buzzword which didn't mean much... and I'm STILL wating for someone to explain me what Ticon, BotFB and Miraculix's sound have in common...). Also D-Dave used to describe his own music as "maximal" (as opposed to minimal which was trendy at the time). Personally I've always called it "industrial goa" But it's just music and their own style, it would be a waste to label it cause only they are making it anyway (and no, it has nothing to do with Derango's style if you were wondering...)

while we're at it, does anyone know of a way to get the tapes from a TV program that was on MCM every Friday evening around 1996-1997 and which had computer generated visuals while playing some killer goatrance in the background? Man, I'd sell one of my kidneys for those tapes

well yeah that's kindof the way all charity work is done: you have a really crappy piece of music and get well-known artists to perform it... Michael Jackson did this for Live Aid 20 years ago and the formula still works Anyway, as long as it wasn't intended to actually be sold I think we can just ignore it

lol there ARE only 2 membres: D-Dave, who occasionaly drops by on this forum and Mugmez

ah but aparently it was simply there as an anti-aids campaign, it wasn't sold in shops or anything so I guess it's still acceptable

Well yes, kindof. Actually noone wanted to release the wierd music coming from Upsala so Battle of the Future Buddhas decided to put their stuff and their collaborations on CD-Rs and allow fans to hear their music anyway. This was the birth of Schlab Rekkords. The funny thing is that aparently Ka-Sol played a major role in there as well but he never released his album on there (althogh almost every Ka-Sol track was released on the Schlab. comps). Wierd, eh? PS for everyone saying that they never heard Ka-Sol except on Suntrip, beware! Ka-Sol only started producing morning music a short while ago! The stuff before is VERY dark industrial stuff, similar to Battle of the Future Buddhas. Personally I love both his styles, but they're VERY different...