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What do you miss the most from the Goa period? And don't tell me the melodies in general, tell me some elements. Here is what I miss the most and can't find in todays psy trance. 1.The liquid basslines Most of the artists today full on, proggy, dark or freestyle use a more ''dry'' bass than Goa artists used to use. Only some Suomi stuff have these ''liquid'' basslines (like Salakavala) but they're not good enough. Perfect examples of ''liquid bassline'': Talamasca-Sinai and MFG-Peaceful Relaxation. 2.The ''synth over synth'' technique. It's when a track has a synth playing a specific melody and after 16 beats, a second, louder synth enters playing the exact same (or slightly faster) melody. Perfect examples of ''synth over synth'' technique: Tripsters-Skitzophrenik (the first two minutes) and Psygone-Psyquest. 3.The final killer climax. It's simple. When a track after many minutes of power and melodies finishes you with a final killer climax. Unfortunately today only Filteria and Azax Syndrom seems to make final killer climaxes. Perfect examples of final killer climax: Astral Projection-People Can Fly and Filteria-Navigate. Yor turn.

1.Twisted System-Core 2.Psyfactor-Endless Universe 3.Filteria-Heliopolis 4.Unstable Elements-Technical Illusions 5.Brethren-Legend Of Cane

Worst? Dunno actually , cause this year I bought only albums and comps from artists or labels that I like. But I'm sure like every the worst must be a poppy full on or a minimal progressive.

EXPERIMENTAL COGITO ERGO SUM EVOLUTION SUCKS! PDTS' PRNT SCRN SOMETHING, SOMEWHERE, WENT TERRIBLY WRONG... THE BIG REJECT THE FUTURE WAS BEFORE WE COME IN PEACE

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One of the biggest mistake you've ever done! Mind Blowing Music!

Hey! If you're sick the first thing you must do is to be even more sick! Try Psykovsky debut or Datakult's split album. See you in the asylum

This is definitely one of the best psy/goa albums of all time. The proof? Two years now and is still sound that awesome!!! Only ultra-classic albums can do that. BTW Galactic Rays and Navigate must be officialy called two of the best tracks ever... Discuss

It's easy to find Psygone's album, well not the 1997 release. Try find the compilation The Power of Goa Trance by ZYX music. It's a 3cd comp. and the third cd is Optimystique. It's a very cheap compilation and easy to find almost in mainstream record shops.

Thanks both Stalker and Sideffect for the words. Thanks for the link Stalker. It's true that mastering is my biggest problem. I don't have any experience in this area nor the right equipment for that work. I mostly use the usual compressors or eq, but the ''frequencies-mastering'' is my big pain in the ass! Anyway thanks again!

Thanks for the words Time Trap! It's true that it's a bit empty but I wanted to make a simpler track than the usual. Thanks again!

Thanks Seraph! About the synchronised melodies if you mean the ''Artifakt'' part that was on purpose Thanks for the comment!

Possibly the best ambient album ever...

Hey guys! I just finished my new track called Globall. The style is a combination of Goa with some other artists elements. For example the bass and the leading melodies (mostly in the start) sound like Ka-Sol, while the break part in the middle of the track more like Artifakt. The ending is more goa-ish and pretty intense. If you like to hear it here is the link: Exelization-Globall (Scroll down a bit and click to the download link next ot the flashing arrow). Any feedback is welcome Thanks!

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Thanks for the comments! All the effects are from Photoshop.

You said it yourself!!! Unreleased!!!

I have a lot of experience about that. I know guys who like Skazi because ''he's da shit''. I don't have a problem with Skazi. If someone likes his music is okay with me. But if someone likes his music because he thinks he's the man, or that lisyening to Skazi music will make him look neat, then there's a problem. I love dark, twisted, evil Psy but I don't listen to it beacuse I want to look ''bad'' but beacuse I like it! There's a difference IMO. When I asked those guys why they don't like old Etnica for example they just answer: ''it's cool but who listens to it anymore?'' See? Those guys don't care about musci itself, they just care about what's cool. If the labels would decide to release Goa for example then those guys will think the opposite. Of course these guys are fuckers, but it seems that most labels today care for this kind of listeners and not the true Psy lovers (any kind of Psy). And that's not a good thing for our scene. Suntrip for example releases this kind of music because they believe in it and not try to get more money. If they wanted money then they would release something different.

Thanks! Photoshop and Poser for the 3D elements.

What I want to say it's simple. You're an artist and you want to release an album. Let's just say that your music is Goa can you find a label for such music? I don't know more than 5 labels that release this kind of music. Now you're an artist and you want to release your music. Let's just say that your music is full on or progressive or dark. I know 500 labels for these kinds. Whose fault is that? IMO labels. Yes, yes, yes! Listeners are responsible for buying them BUT! Just like Lepton said the scene today is much bigger and more mainstream (Personally I still beleive that Psy Trance is pure underground). Bigger scene means more casual listeners. Casual listeners are the ones that they don't care about the music itself but they just listened to Psy fro fan or just to dance in a party. Casual listeners will listen to anything as long this is popular IMO. They will listen to anything most labels release. Now just think how many casual listeners are out there. (It's exactly the same with Heavy Metal. Ppl that listen to HIM or Evanesence are casual Metal listeners. They don't care for the musci itself, but real Metalheads hate tose groups)

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I don't believe that Psy Trance labels owners are getting rich by selling their cds, but most of them definitely want to get more money. For example if TODAY you release an Astrix style album and an old school Goa for example is 1000000% sure that the first one will sell muuuuuch more. Of course dancers-listeners are responsible too, after all they are who buy the cds, but I believe that if tomorrow suddenly the most popular genre was Goa then almost everyone of the ''casual'' listeners would follow it. BTW this is NOT a Full On bashing thread. I'm talking about low quality Psy of any kind.

I believe that the only difference between a mainstream and an underground music is that mainstream artists want to be rich from their music, while underground artists care mostly for the musci itself and not how to buy a new car from the sales of their releases.

LABELS!!! There are hundreds of new school Goa artists out there and thousands of listeners. There are hundreds of new artists that produce very interesting Psy (not just Goa) and thousands of listeners that like this music. So, where are they? You can find them because none label would release their music (there are always exceptions). Even the old artists like Pleiadians would release a nice album if they didn't care for the sales. (Professional artists live from their music-their job and wouldn't dare to release an album not commercial, in the fear that none label would want to release their music again- Chi-A.D. anyone?) This is the only problem with Psy Trance today: LABELS CARE FOR THE MONEY AND NOT FOR THE MUSIC.

Although this guy is French, his style is 100% South African. Phat full on with aggressive basslines, dark but not evil dark, nice melodies and powerful!!! This cd is indeed awesome although some tracks could be even more powerful and to explode in their last parts. But still is a great release. Fav tracks are Sorcery, Metamorphose and Bizzare Phenomena. 8.5/10