Jikkenteki

I can see where you are coming from. However, from my point of view the scene has been pretty commercial for as long as I have been involved in it (about 9 years actively now I guess), just as there has always been people complaining that the scene has become too commercial. Personally I think it really hasn't changed all that much in terms of commercialness and people trying to make a buck. Yes there has been a pointless explosion of labels and undoubtable some of these people are in it for money. However I think back to around 2001 or so when my partner and I in PAR-2 first started talking the possiblity of releasing something on our own and one of the major factors in our decision then was that at that time there were hardly any labels at all taking risks with newer artists or more alternative approaches to psy (back then it seemed like it was all minimal or GMS). I think the label explosion happened due to a few different factors. One was several years where there seemed to be very little options for new guys, coupled with the decline of vinyl as the medium of the psy djs (cds are significantly cheaper to print) and a general drop in CD printing costs around that period as well. Suddenly there was a new option for a lot of artists whole, more than wanting to make money, simply wanted to be heard. Now of course things has swung completely the opposite way, there are so many people releasing things that still no one is getting heard. Give it several years and nature will take care of a good deal of the problem. As to where the spirit is? I think its where you put it yourself.

Yeah, there's some good stuff on that.

Ektoplazm.com has been kind enough to host the full length preview version of "Mainspring Motion". For those looking to "try before you buy", head over there and give it a listen. http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/mainspring-motion

Yeah, I know there are more and more DJs using mp3s and that is fine. My main point is that as a label you obviously want to get your tracks heard by as many people as possible. Regardless of the "facts" of the situation, there are still A LOT of DJs who won't dj using mp3s yet, so chosing to only release these as mp3 cuts a good number of potential listeners (and players to other people) out of the picture before your music is even heard. I totally understand the bandwidth problems and such, but if you want to do it right, you should find a way. FLAC is a good option I think, easy to use and all. Best of luck.

Yes, although PAR-2 isn't in there yet.

Personally I don't see what the problem is. The price is cheap and you aren't paying for the addresses so much as paying for the hours and hours of time you save compared to hunting all of that info down by yourself. The music industry is filled with these kinds of directories and their primary purpose is to save people time and give them access to resources they might have otherwise missed searching on their own. Faxi's contact sheet does the same thing. I bought it and have zero regrets about it myself.

I know one CD you will be getting in the mail probably tomorrow.

Weird, my partner in PAR-2 and I are both from Minnesota. I live in Japan he, but he lives in Portland.

I suggest you look into the matter further. Many djs I know refuse to dj from even 320k mp3s. 320 is the highest mp3 has to offer, but there is still a lot that gets lost. For home listening its fine but for proper events there is a lot of debate on the issue. Regardless, best of luck on the release!

Money is tight here so I haven't gotten any new music in awhile About the only thing I have gotten is this http://www.discogs.com/release/1023851 I've got a couple extra copies if anyone is interested

This happened durning the Psynews.org "outage" but Mainspring Motion is back from the printers and is shipping now. :posford: It will be working its way into various webshops over the next few weeks or so, but it is available immediately from the www.par-2.com webshop or by contacting me directly. The price directly from us is $10 with shipping anywhere in the world included.

Yeah, I had a lot of trouble with the downloads breaking here on Firefox and IE as well. I eventually ran everything through DownThemAll and got it all, but it took a few tries. Actually I still haven't been able to get the 127meg file it, I always get server errors and it closes on me.

Mainspring Motion is now available in its entirety on 192k mp3 for previewing purposes. The .zip file can be downloaded at www.par-2.com. Click on the CD covers to access the releases page and head to the Mainspring Motion page for the download. Pre-orders for the actual CD are also currently available. $10 USD with free shipping to anywhere in the world.

In the long run they did you a favor, because now you can be environmentally friendly and sell those unneeded CDs to get money for new and better stuff to hold you over while you wait for the next shipment. All while freeing up room at your parents house (which was maybe their hidden intention? )

My partner is still working on the programing on the website for the zipped full preview version of the album, but in the meantime I've uploaded this lo-fi full length preview as one file for your sampling pleasure. Listen HERE

$10 USD including shipping to anywhere in the world.

Due to the nature of the psy business and delays I have stopped giving out exact dates since they never seem to happen However the CD is at the printers as we speak. We are taking pre-orders through par-2.com as we speak (or you can contact me directly) which will ship as soon as the CDs arrive. Given the estimate our printers gave us I'd say approx. July 27th at the latest, (which includes considerable padding time-wise). It should filter through to Saiko Sounds soon after, but no idea on an exact date there due to the postal service.

For online shopping I generally use Cytopia.org, whose back catalog is starting to get some depth finally, or trackitdown. Track it down as most of the major labels, but they are a lot more expensive than cytopia (Cytopia charges the same for wav and 320 mp3 files), so I usually only use track it down for those cases when there is a "major" (in psy terms) label comp out that I want only one track off of, else wise my money generally goes to cytopia.org.

When I lived in the US Saiko was significantly faster in the shipping department (3 days versus about 9 for Psyshop), but for me the deciding point was customer service. Saiko has excellent customer service, With Psyshop I wouldn't know because in also seven years, they have never answered a single email I have sent them, both as a customer and as a label representative.

I understand where you are coming from but things happen. Our first release was a year and a half late mostly due to waiting for the last two tracks and moving to another country. My first album was actually a little bit ahead of schedule, but our second comp, Mainspring Motion, is about 8 months late, even though we've had all the tracks in for about 9 months (waiting for art, more moves and people having babies caused the delays this time around). My next album was completely finished back in Nov or Dec 2006, but its behind schedule too for the same reasons Mainspring Motion is, plus the mastering guys computer blew up with one track left to be mastered. Zekazy's album was supposed to come out last winter too, but he started over from scratch so I've learned to stop giving release dates. In all the previous releases, whenever we gave a ball park guess it "seemed" doable at the time.... but alas.... As for AP, let's hope the delays equal getting more material to choose from and release the best of the best.

His last album was this http://www.discogs.com/release/609628 . He keeps making slight changes to the Ubar Tmar name with every release lately but its all just foolish word play on Ubar Tmar and not a different project or anything. Note, with Discogs lists this as being recorded live in Japan, it doesn't say anything to that affect in the CD and I think the submitter just feel victim to some crowd samples that appear at one point in the album.

We will be making the entire album available online for previewing in the near future but for the moment the Jikkenteki Vs Symphonics Vs 11 - Three Blind Mice can be heard in full at my Myspace page at http://www.myspace.com/par2jikkenteki

PAR-2 Productions Presents Mainspring Motion. Mainspring Motion is a compilation from artists spanning the globe. Amygdala - Oxylerator II Anakoluth - Vaporizing Glares ProSect - Tribalogic (Amygdala Remix) Zekazy - Inspiration Drainer Symphonics Vs 11 - D.B.S.S. Fizzy - Hymn In Honor Of Symphonics Jikkenteki Vs Symphonics Vs 11 - Three Blind Mice E-mantra - Crop Circles ProSect - Dr. Ivan And The Mad Peyote Time, evolution, progression. In the world of music, nothing is static. The passage of time gives us variations on themes, revives old forms and gives us the tried and true. Time also brings listeners the unexpected, pushing the envelope and evolving into ideas divergent from which came before. PAR-2's belief has always been that a storming track is a storming track regardless of style, content or age. Rather than focusing on the narrow boundaries of what's "in" at the moment, Mainspring Motion is an exploration of many faces of psychedelic trance from its early days, to the present, and into the future. It is what it is, and it is what it isn't. A good track does not degrade over time. In fact, as time passes we realize the excellent qualities of a production and can look back to see the truly innovative forms that shaped music going forward. Good music will always work well regardless of stylistic variations. The past gives us now, now gives us the future. Keep your feet in the past, your attention in the now and your dreams in the future. More information and full album previews coming soon... www.par-2.com

He released an album last year. It was typically strange as is the case with all of his stuff. :posford:

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