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Well, maybe we'd better discuss it in real life, cause that answer appeard too vague imo. "Moden mastering = more maximal and powerfull.": I still don't get what you mean exactly by that. Maybe cause of the limitations of online chatting... Plus: we do not support "old" or "new" mastering. We like to find the best mastereing. That's why I ask a full detailed explantion The more details the more we understand eachother. any how, gonna end the online discussion, no point any more in doing it.

I never said not use Tim - lol! I actually don't care who uses who. I care about how they do it and what makes the sound diffrent. It's all about learning or getting to understand the others point of view. I just asked you: "What do you mean with modern mastereing?" That's all So please feel free to explain. Off course 99% likes it, otherwise Suntrip wouldn't sell that much CD's. Again: it was just a question, cause I'd like to learn from eachother. So please do not feel offended, I don't wanna put anyone in defend mode Let's just talk... ON topic: I think the "Brainman - Brain food" album has terrible mastereing. http://www.discogs.com/Brainman-Brain-Food/release/139485

@ Mars: I just asked what he means by it. I never heard that term "modern mastering" before. Plus: I'm very eager to learn about everyone here, every label, every sound engineer and not argue nor pretend I know everything And that is the point: learning by asking questions. Plus I think it's very interesting all label owner here talk openly about how they feel about mastering styles,...etc. So we can get an insight in eachothers approaches, feelings about sound colors,... and that's a really cool trend imo: so we start understanding the diffrences between the labels. So instead of starting to go in defent modus, we can better write and and explain eachother what we do, so we gain knowlegde so we can improve all steps of production If I would know everything about sound engineering I'd never come here and start asking questions It looks clear to my language use here I'm not saying "I don't like what you do" or "I know everything about sound". Not gonna put energy in a "label vs label" thingy: no one learns anything in this type of discussion Opinions differ, and I like that! That's democracy, that's what can makes us grow: "Goa Lives" <3

Well, Moonquest is kinda defuct I suppose? We invited E-Mantra and the label owner, Vlad, a few years ago in Belgium to play both their live acts. And we made it a release-party for their 1st CD compilation. I know Vlad planned more compilations, but it seems never have come to reality. Maybe Emanuel knows more about his plans.

Yes, Kathedra will appear on Cronomi soon as we can His vibe is massive & solid.

1) About people want to hear good mastereing: Hmm, first of all if Agneton says that, I do not agree. Nothing personal Elias This forum is full of Goa Collectors and they demand good stuff - tough crowd And well, I like that, cause it makes you reset your boundaries to more perfection: we have the know-how to do it. Becomes a sport More and more collectors are interested in this topic. Even on the Belgian Goa forum there was a huge topic on it. Our sound systems become better every year, even the cheep: so I think people do mind, I think they hear the difference. 2) Maximal mastering = Meaning? a ) That you increase the volume + keep the full dynamics? b ) Maximize volume and try to keep as much dynamics as possible (so compromise more on dynamics than volume, but keep as much dynamics as you can)? c ) ... other option? 3) Besides: I'm also wondering: Hallucinogen was mastered with 10 dB dynamics (or in that range), and so mastered "classical way". Plus this guys music plays very well at festivals. At parties too, never had a problem. So why need newer way of mastering than? Or maximalize it? Interesting discussion, cause we are also every CD trying to find the right balance within the mastering at Cronomi. Very nice and challenging exercise I like this topic: gives me new insights….

What you mean by "modern mastering"?

Color Box: Kenneth! Massive guy! Afraid of the dark and spiders: we ran like little children from his studio in the garden to his house....hahah! When we openend boxes with floppy discs, a spider came out and we yelled like kids Imagine: kenneth looks like a viking Visited the attick where they created "train to chroma city": memories <3 We had the same sence of humor: brittish Bypass Unit: René: chaotic as hell...but a nice guy. Real nice guy!!!! Hart of gold An very intelligent too.

Damn you: I wanted to say that!!!

Thanks for the people who voted for our 2013 Cronomi release Even it was very late in that year and no reviews where written. 2014 we hope to me more productive: 1st CD comming soon "psysutra"!!!

Well, I think it starts (again): We have 3 Cronomi Rec. label dj's in Germany. Depending the area Goa is or isn't populair. Making Goa grow (again) is hard work, but very rewarding Like we all do here.

!!! Finishing the cover/art work of the PSYSUTRA album: "Gamma Phoenicis" !!! Here is already a teaser of what the album will sound like https://soundcloud.com/psysutra/jetman-female-animals-psysutra "GOA LIVES" (dj Inada)

Not to say that not all music needs to be mastered. If the production is top quality, than in fact no mastering is needed. To bad, cause of this, cause RA is amazing music

Well, cause he all of a sudden dissappeared from the radar: that's why. I share your opinion.

Yes, but no one in "friendslist" has that name.

Well, I posted something on his wall, expecting some people to react: also nothing.

Well, as the title states. Where is he? Goamech aka "Maxim Drumoff" from Ukraine. Several people I know (and me) tried contacting him. Does anyone know if he's oké? I'm worried: normally he responds, but for several months no word at all. discogs: http://www.discogs.com/artist/1621092-GoaMech Feel free to let me know...

Here it is, a new dj set of dj Inada: “TRIBUTE TO GOA HEAD” (New link: old one was defunct) https://soundcloud.com/dj_inada/dj-inada-cronomi-rec-tribute-to-goa-head-mix As these were my 1st Goa CD’s, it was time to make a special tribute set to these wonderful compilations! I hope you guys enjoy it as much as I was making it…"Share & like if you like it" “Don’t panic & keep psychedelic” (dj Inada – manager Cronomi Rec.) www.cronomi.com

Hmm, if I'm not mistaken not all synths in the '90s where analog and not all artists worked 100% analog in that period. Or am I so wrong? So that's why I think the term, based on that argument, "neo" isn't that valid (just my own opinion here). If you talk about mastereing technology, that we have a deal, or the (extra) software used today Also music is maybe diffrent produced, but I would never say in the '90s most was done all analog. Probably used more analog that electric synths...agreed. But I know enough artists that use both synths nowadays, like in the '90s (so what's "neo" Neo ). Any how: In my opinion all semantics. Good music stays good music. I don't see a real point in deviding the Goa trance into "new skool" & "old skool": Makes the time-stigma too much a live & valid again as a value meter of the music itself. Like old is always better than new. I like both

So you are saying " we Belgians rock"?! Well, there is a "date-stigma" on newer made goatrance. I I still do not get why. The Goa made today can surelly match the old (not all). Also "not all old is gold". So when regurally talking about Goa with folks, there are enough people who say "before 2000 it was (all) good 'n afther it is (all) bad". This wwithout any further argument than the period it has been produced: very wierd! So that's why I wrote in my former post I make a sport out of it to let'm listen one old and one new track and let'm hear the diffrence : many can't or get it wrong: this helps breaking this "date-stigma". Still, that stigma makes also organisers look for more "older goa" (like most big festival for example - hyped music = costumers = money). When they book goa it's mainly older goa, less newer). BUT there are festivals (finally) looking to the newer goa too (you know who you are), and that's wonderfull! Slowly we prove that they can't ignore newer made Goa at all, and acts of this era get booked more and more...but it takes energy. But if you get booked the satisfaction is tremendous

Nice mix between goatrance & full on!!! Like it , especially the melancholic part/melody!!! Thanks for posting...

I never kinda got the terms "neo" or "new skool". Like stated above, "it's all Goa trance". I wonder where the "new skool" comes from: structures, melodies,... are all still in the same range, like made in in the past. Not saying the soundscapes or technology (for masterering for example) didn't evolve Did the test several times at parties, let "old skool freaks" say if a track is old or new skool: Most people not always hear the diffrence, even attending several years goa trance parties. Not saying you never hear a diffrence, cause of production diffrences etc,... Plus, they just want to hear Goa, old or newer made And Goa wasn't dead, never Check these releases, they all are Goa or psychedelic trance (style '98 -'99, to use a date), from 2000 -> 2004 Some of the examples (random order): 1) MFG - the message 2) Ypsilon 5 - Binary Sky 3) Anoid ‎– Stardancer / Transvestites From Hell 4) Various ‎– Blissful Moments 5) Ethereal ‎– Anima Mundi 6) Chi-A.D. ‎– Infinitism 7) Various ‎– Out Of Orion - Volume I 8) Various ‎– Destination Goa - The Ninth Chapter- DG9 9) Space Buddha ‎– Eternity Project 10) Digital Karma ‎– Hyper Sound 11) Various ‎– Pure Planet 12) Various ‎– 100% Goa 13) Hunab Ku ‎– Magik Universe 14) Imperial Project ‎– Remote Viewing 15) Imperial Project ‎– Vimana 16) Imperial Project ‎– Gaia Spirits 17) Various ‎– Goa Syndrome 18) Various ‎– Goa Syndrome 2 19) Various ‎– Goa Syndrome 3 20) Various ‎– Actetic Acid 21) Various ‎– Planet-Goa Vol. IV 22) Man With No Name ‎– Teleportation 23) Various ‎– Didgeridoo Trance Dance 24) Summamutikka ‎– Umpimähkä 25) Double Dragon ‎– Continuum 26) Cosmosis ‎– Intergalactic 27) Phi ‎– Phinalize 28) Various - Single Cell 29) Quadra - Digital Stimulant 30) Various - Origians 31) Various - Psychedelic Sound Of Ibiza - Trance Cmpilataion Vol.1 32) Deedrah - Reload ...Stopping here, there is more, but the rest you can see yourself on discogs Not to mention the many bootleggs made between 2000 & 2004, with all "old" goa pressed on CDr + the re-issues in those years from older albums, like from Ra, Dimension 5, Electron wave, Etnica, Total Eclipse, The Infinity Project, INDOOR,... . So I think the Goa scene was pretty much a live and there was a need for goa, but not releasing as much as the years before?! Maybe cause the "bigger" labels didn't see any more money or broad commercial succes in it? Plus, not to mention artists like Sneila, Portamento, Artha,...& many more (sorry I forget your names) that produced Goa in that age, but (almost) not got released. And just dropped Goa online for free on mp3 sites. Also, 2 collegues of mine made several (underground) parties in that period (2000 -> 2004). So I think Goa became smaller, more underground (again), but.... never kinda died (imho): thank God!!!

1) Chi ad - Virtual Spirit Why? "This music has it all: you can dance on it, trance on it, trip on it, chill on it. Every track has this unique vibrant and clear luminosity in it. Like the most ancient gods are talking to you: explaining all the meaning of life, the universe in a gently wise way you can only dream about. This CD is love and compassion :)" 2) Kox Box - Forever After Why? "The whole CD sounds like the best funky Sf-goa ever! Every time I listen to it I want to explore space and new world with high intelligence. Please give me a space ship: let's go there! Deep, warm, soft, subtle 303 trippyness. Those baselines dude!!! 3) Hallucinogen - All his albums. Why? "All what he wrote here seems me like you are listening to a full concert. Beautiful composed and with enough (un)expected twists (twisted rec ). In my opinion this is the personification of classical music in goa-soundscapes. What an experience it is: every time a concert with every unique sound. 4) Color Box - Train to Chroma City Why? Cause they are Vikings and made rude basic sounding psytrance at its best. All tracks evolve is this weird strange and on first sight to easy composed structures and melodies. But in the end they have such a unique sound, never done before or after. These guys are top producers too, so what made the mixing of the layers so nice within the sound they were imbedded. 5) Xenomorph - Casandra's Nightmare Why? Listen to the kicks and baselines: let's talk after Every track is like this little creepy fairy tale. With from time to time a melancholic ending, for example: Hallucinatory Spheres. So here is the musical form of the movie Sleepy Hollow for ya!"

Thans mate Expect more in 2014, 2015 & 2016 - we keep on tripping

That was the point Any way: looks like tricky business here imo, would buy it, even if I hadn't had the CD already.