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If I listen to the samples, I hear in (almost) every track 100% neo goa trance. Would you really hear a big difference if you closed your eyes, not knowing what artist is playing? How different is this album (production) from 70% of newer goa trance? Cristal clean production, focus on melody, not very psychedelic, no drum kick (beats) and overall the same 'shiny' sounds with a very clubby though. Like this style or not: that's another thing Some ear catchers or points of 'concern' -2nd tracks is good imo. Production wise, but also trance and psychedelic wise (even indeed it could be better (?) - cf. potential). -4th track is beautiful, no? Trance with a small pinch of psychedelic elements, more than 'just' trance. -5th track has a nice groove into it... -6th track is very very neo goa: totally not full on ...but lacks the energy of the original version. Imo is this version what much newer goa is in comparison to the older stuff: you hear there is less hart and organicness inside this track, like it doesn't grow in the earth. Not embedded into a deeper, warm sound. 7-8: full on/neo goa trance, but not with much inspiration, though there is real potential. Good full on exists!!!! This is not (overall) the typical Dacru sound... imo

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Good luck mate

I'm wondering what the comments would be if it was their 1st album. Don't expect an artist to be 100% original when doing a 6th full album Track 3 seems fine in my opinion, but oké, it is just like a Hallucinogen track, but slowed down with a flute on top: not that bad, right? Plus, why buy if you dislike it? Seems if you buy it you sent out the signal you like it and than why should the artist make something else? #feedtheirony

Not my style, but love that deep kicks

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My neighbours wife, who never listened to goa trance (but heard me playing it in my living room from a far), asked for my music. Gave her this compilation and she adores it, and just like you, she is amazed by this track: on repeat in her car all the time - haha!!! life <3

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Good one With 3 Cronomi names on the list we can't be more happy to work with you guys!!! Best of luck Psara & Spacedock

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Well, I play goa trance sets for more than 15 years now, and never played on drugs. But that doesn't mean the scene (artists, crowd,...) are always sober You have been to parties and festivals right? Any way: what I wanted to add in that note was that I just noticed there is a change in the drugs use within the goa scene, and that it is a factor that affects the music (production and how it is perceived or appreciated). On different drugs a 'dance' crowd reacts different to the music. I noticed that when I was playing a 'dj Inada' set and Artha set on a party in Spain a few years ago. The organiser came to me after my Artha-set and asked me not to play my 'Inada' set any more, because my music sounded too futuristic and they wanted beat music. I quote the organiser: "Don't play Inada set, cause people took cocaine and want beat music. Your set was too futuristic!" And well, I thought I was alone, but when I see many party video's of big and small parties or festivals, you can notice indeed that when there is no beat the crowd stops, and when it returns they dance (even if the music sucks). Check some old video's from goa parties and people kept on dancing even if the beat wasn't that prominent or gone: people even danced on the trance flow of the break. I don't see that any more (or hardly). I hope I have cleared that out for you?

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A. Musical background (and using it) Couldn't disagree more mate, but what did you expect This 'neo' goa (let's talk about the last few year) misses too many times the most essential stuff. If listening to electronic music in the 80's and 90's (with styles I grew up as a kid and adolescent) is where Goa trance is a blend of. 80&90's music styles and 70's stretchy psy rock and Indian orientated melodies (played, not programmed notes and bars into a computer) are the basic of what we know as goa trance. Most important: it was and should still be an experiment, but within a certain variety of 'fixed' music styles which are noted before. Many of the goa trance producers in the 90's where a part of psy rock bands or involved in that scene (for example Total Eclipse). Adding to that you can notice that many goa trance producers (for example: Boris Blenn, Har El) made not first goa, but more acid, trance music. They evolved in the 90's by blending more styles/genres into goa trance. Think also about the latest vinyl release of DAT records with the proto goa EP 'you never know'. This tracks - if you listen - proves the former point, and it isn't the only record that you can listen to and where that is very clear. In short: real goa trance is not near or superficial copy of an existing style or sound from the 90's. It is so much more and it needs a wide and broad musical background to understand and make it. It was an evolution a experiment. B. Goa is a blend, not a copy Goa trance is like making a dish, you have to know all your ingredients and the way to blend them and than off course do your own thing with it. Because the ingredient list is so big you have so much freedom. Note maybe that is why that Transwave track was called 'land of freedom' - just a guess 80/90's styles were: acid, techno, house, trance, new beat,... If you make goa trance (melodic or not) this are the basic ingredients you start from. You blend them (or strong aspects/elements of them) together to make goa trance. It is like making a pie: first you collect the different (and separate) ingredients by tasting them, experiencing them. Than you take the next step, you follow a certain receipt and that you cook it up to a blend depending your own flavour. Much (not all) 'neo' goa is like making a pie and skipping the receipt. Basing the product on a picture without reading what the receipt is and what separate ingredients you really need for it. As result you get a vague copy of a existing style, but differs too much to be called goa trance. Yes, I said it, I dare to say it and I don't care how much it will stir the rabbit hole.Apart from the former remark ; you only get real goa if you use the real original ingredients and this 'neo' goa isn't complete goa trance for me. C. Some examples: a ) Techno influence: Electric Universe - Online information b ) house influence: Sundog - Ancient Forest (Yantra Mix) c ) acid influence Bassline Baby - Altered States d ) new beat influence dj mix goa - 1989 (year which goa came to birth) e ) trance influence California Sunshine - Coming Home D. Production has nothing to do with it. This has nothing to do with modern and clear production. Because in the 90'sthere were enough artists who made perfect warm and deep BUT clear goa trance. If you know the album Deedrah - Reload, you know what I'm talking about. Modern production, clear, clean even,... but 100% goa trance with all the necessary ingredients. The same counts for Oforia/Pigs in space: clear, but not plastic. E. Modern goa (some examples of clear and clean, but deep and warm production) But it doesn't stop here, there are more (new) goa artists who (imo) respect that original blend without - like you stated it - copy the same kick and tricks. They have proven what I stated above: goa is a blend of styles, and when you don't respect the musical background and history of goa trance you get something else that sounds plastic and generic. Here are some examples: M-Run and I tried to make goa trance with a clear modern production, but not a plastic one. The same counts for Ufomatka, Artha, RA, Khetzal,...and so much more. 1) Ufomatka - Extragalactic Form Of Life (Original Mix) 2) M-Run ft. dj Inada - Kapala 3) Artha - 1st element is gone 4) Ra - 9th (full album) 5) Khetzal - Corolle (album) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGw_inlFvM ...and last but not least (and probably the best newer melodic compilation since 2004): 6) Various - Apsara https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=4YRGbs3iD8A Any way: I actually love this discussion In the above I want to sate why I feel that tracks isn't 'goa' trance for me. But it is in most ways very similar off course, as its original is goa trance. But still, this clean and plastic sounds and kick are really giving me the creeps, especially that boring and non inventive 'horse kick' so called baseline: it has no melody, nothing, so generic. So far my humble (but I hope well argumented) opinion. Note: Depending what 'the crowd' wants, depends on their musical background (and taste). It is not because people (on drugs) dance to it, that it is goa. We all know that the so called modern music is mainly focused on beats. This due to the change of drug use in the goa scene: from more 'mind expanding' drugs like acid, cannabis,... that challenge your mind and take you out of the comfort zone (just like goa music should do). Changing to more comfort drugs like coke, speed,... This effects the dance floor and reactions on the music very hard...and off course what producers make to get booked.

Agree and not agree... track 2 is excellent (love the remastering), and like it should be in modern (melodic) goa trance: feeling, desire, melancholy, a dark twist and a smooth flowering psychedelic back ground bending your emotion inwards to think about yourself. be happy and deeply 'sad' at the same time. A 'a la recherche du temps perdu' feeling at its maximum. Like Fabien stated: production is excellent, BUT indeed that isn't all there is too. About track 1: The melodies are off course very Astral, the melancholy in the breaks too. BUT this is way to clean and over produced to have that real DEEP warm feeling to it: especially the kick and the horse riding 'base'line #wtf? Does this mean I oppose modern production? No, otherwise I would not release newer goa trance myself. But when you you use the new techniques to make it sound like crystal clear plastic, no thanks! I want it organic, deep and twisted though: elements all melodic goa trance had/should have. ...and it is -imo- too clubby (especially in the beginning) which makes the psychedelic undertone vanish almost completely. That is one of the biggest problems with the most newer (melodic) 'psychedelic' trance these days: to reach a bigger audience the melodies take all over, while the more psychedelic and mind challenging side is almost all gone.

Idea's are good: just work it out more into detail

Ordered ...and every (new) goa producer should: discover your roots, know what you are making Thanks Draeke for bringing this music vibe into the scene...

Thanks (to all artists). I always dreamed making it a series, but we have too many complete albums ready to lauch. Plus I actually never came across the same amount of the same quality: maybe when I collect for a few years: I'll try Well, we made more, but still unrl. But they will come out, I hope next year or so: depends my other projects.

Not sure. I actually met more Israëli's that oppose it. Been in that country about 10 times (to play music and combine it always with a visit and talks); doesn't make me an expert, but that is what I heard myself. Plus living there is the key to fully understand all: be there, experience. A judging from a far or trough statistics is dangerous imo.

Not bad, the only thing I miss is that your idea's would be worked out more into detail (with also a original sound). But the flow, mixing,... sounds good mate!

Put in much more idea's and creativity: that in combination with the good mixing and production you'll have yourself good music. Just be more original on your sound...like it sounds that only you could have done this.

Than you should buy one haha! Not expensive Especially if you want to dig into the true roots of goa and the early goa sound: vinyl is a must (imo). So much (not everything off course) in that time was rather or also on vinyl.

I totally 'agree' with this (idea of a) release, (and that idea plays already for years in my mind) that more of this older goa trance should be released. Not only because it is good, but to 'educate' the scene a bit more where the sound of the mid 90'sreally came from. Could be good for newer members who start making 'goa'.

Finally psychedelic techno is finding it's way back to the goa scene ...about time we hear artists doing that more. Tracks 2 has it all!!! Good luck guys.

My personnel top (per style): -Melodic/melancholic: California Sunshine, ManWithNoName (Teleport album) & Electric Universe, -Funky: KoxBox & Green House Effect, -Acidic: Bassline Baby, Color Box & Hallucinogen, -Dark: Xenomporh & UX, -Psytrance (not mistaken with Full On): Pigs In Space, Wizzy Noise (the 90's unrl tracks), MFG (album The message) & Etnica (from '97-'99). What they all have in common (imo)? a ) Good production - not clean but clear and distinct with always deep/organic kicks and baselines with a solid melody and climaxes/melodies that always have the right sound, b ) Good mixing skills - the music layers interact always to form a whole, c ) A unique sound - everyone knows who made the track, there is a big sense of identity, there is no urge to imitate what is popular, d ) Important: not loud, not noisy, but balanced in sound and volume: not need to make music that (only) 'sounds good on a big system' - lol! e ) All are deeply trancy in effect on the mind when you listen to the details, there is a trance journey they take you on, the tracks tell a story like a book. They are really composing music from out a very rich musical background (the psy rock from the 70's, the synths and music styles from the 80's where the Goa-blend comes from) ... and not programming notes into a computer or simulating an existing sound from the '90s or so on. -Newer goa (not a diffrent style, just another period & in no particular order and to my personnel taste): Artha, M-Run, Ufomatka, Ra, Lapsus, Morphic Resonance & Kethzal. I feel these really contributed some unique energy and their own interpretation to the scene that I think these guys music will last the coming generations and beyond.