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Yo, Ukiro! Funny you did the work, . I'll scan the release flyer whatever thing, it's specifically talking about "The LAW EP" and is stating that there are five tracks on it (infonet). Anyways, I scored fab005 for 18 bucks, cheaper than fab016 by a few dollars. I'm just really curious about this. I'm moving over to CDs but am still collecting all the TIP stuff as they were my THIRD inspiration . 1. Juno Reactor - Beyond the Infinite 2. Astral Projection - The Astral Files 3. TIP - Feeling Weird After I heard those three albums, I was hooked, for life. teehee. I'll try and get that in tonight, if not tonight, tomorrow. I just moved and must hook up the scanner. P.S. My copy of fab016 is white on one side with the sticker on the other, but on the white side it has writing and lists the three tracks (or two?!) on that side and says "The LAW EP" in writing. Thus my confusion. And the release flyer speaking of five tracks and being advert. as "The LAW EP" hehehe. I'll get the scan of the flyer and as soon as I dig up the digicam, the record, too! Thanks uki! Aaron

I found a copy today. :-D I have to trade a ton of flying rhino singles for it though, but nonetheless, I'm very happy. It'll match my awakening release poster I have. teehee. Goodluck and should I eye another copy or copies, I'll contact you both. Aaron

No worries man! Thanks anyways. You're right, it is a wonderful album. Aaron

Well, that's what I am confused about. I have a flyer that says THE LAW EP, and I'm going to scan it to prove it :-D, it says there are FIVE tracks on it. I know of that one but fabu 016 is the one with five tracks and well, yeah whatever. I don't know, I'm going to scan it in the near future. I'm moving today so my stuff won't be up and available to do so. ugh! Thanks! Aaron

oH, how about dementertainment and tip singles? instead of cash?! Heh! I looked over your wantlist. =] Aaron

Okay, tip singles and 20USD cash =] I dunno what you want really. I dont have a ton of CDs available. Uh, feeling weird still shrinkwrapped from substance label by the infinity project? I don't know Heh! Aaron

I'll trade you tip singles for your darshan awakening?! Plus I'll throw in 15 Cash Aaron

Hey niobiMANG! Once I see a copy, I'll be sure to knock that person out who has possession of it and I'll come hand deliver it to your door. But you'll have to pay me back for my efforts, but the CD of course will be free As for the collectorelitistattitudething, I was a hoarder. I wasn't knowledgable about everything I had. I found a few tracks I listened to over and over and over and over. Never to even had listened to most of my records. Thus why I'm selling them. I've learned a valuable lesson. If you ain't gonna use it, lose it. =] CDs are much more managable and I now know what I'd like to get on CD Aaron

I'm curious visine, what's listed on your virtual-discogs account? ha ha ha, kidding! yeah, i use discogs now for selling off my records. it's also a good resource to use for yourself to keep track of what you want. but some of those wantlists, 300,900,1000,4300!! come on people, shit. i don't think i even have time available to be that greedy. i collected records more so in a materialistic way, yes. i didn't even listen to a lot of them. and now i'm parting them to get cd's that i enjoy, i'm trying to be selective, but almost all ambient/loungey chill music, i highly enjoy! i wanted to be a label collector, but now i'm more so becoming an artist collector. if i hear something by someone i like, i'll check them out more thoroughly and buy more of their stuff. now, if something's uberly rare and i have no idea of what it sounds like and i can get a good deal on it, we all know this is common, i'll JUMP THE GUN!@# Just like everyone else, regardless of materialism or not. if we hate it, we could trade up later to someone else who really wants it. I WILL ADMIT! I do want to finish my TIP label collection completely, CD and vinyl! It's just a promise I made to my lil' guy for his future to stare at and be like "wow, my daddy collected some stupid cheesy music, what garbage" but whatever, I loved TIP and they've (the infinity project) inspired me the most in the psy world. So, alas, I will fulfill it in my TIP materialistic ways! :-D Aaron

everytime i see PA anywhere, I think PRO AUDIO. I figure for the most part, the gear at a party or event is PRO AUDIO, so adding live to it makes me think WOW, MAYBE THEY'RE WORKING THE "PRO AUDIO... GEAR" AND NOT JUST PLAYING CDs! But I'm funny like that and Pro Audio Gear is FUN! =] SO PA for me is PRO AUDIO mother fruckers! Jeah, that's right, I have my own IDEA of it too! teehee This thread is funny Aaron

I had burning up on vinyl, promo release. instrumental and the vocal edit. i'll tell you what, i liked it for the first 5 listens then i never pulled it out on the shelf. i paid 3 dollars for it unknowingly. Turned around a year later and popped it off for $45 bucks so I was quite happy. I'll tell you, as radi made a comment earlier, my phone ringer sounds better. =] Astral Projection moved me away from this trance, them and Juno Reactor, actually. So when I heard this and found it to be AP I was ... scared! haha. But whatever, there was history behind this track. Anyways, never heard axis, don't care to. Don't care to hear another astral projection track EVER AGAIN. Like posford, i've grown bored with it all! Even though, I admit, it was quite good. There's other stuff, duh! Aaron

I have too pure single, what's for trade?! erm, nevermind, i like koxbox too much! uh, but i will brag and say it only costed me 5 bucks on ebay a couple weeks ago :-D Aaron

I don't know, if you know that is supposed to be the track for sure, then update it on discogs I want to run this issue by with Ukiro first before jumping into any conclusions because he says he has fabu 016 on discogs, and he's missing fabu 005, so, i kind of want to double check what he has and let him see the "release" sheet i received with the record stating that fabu 016 is indeed, the law ep and not infonet. Har! :-( Aaron

Yo, Ukiro! I have something to call bluff on in the discogs database. The LAW E.P. is actually Fabu 016 (not The Infonet EP) If you want, I can scan the actual release paper. I guess I didn't get the super rare FAB 005 like I thought I was getting, but instead, on discogs, there's a huge mixup on the releases. I don't know, you care to look though? I'm confused :-D as to why someone would say the law ep is 005 and infonet is 016, instead of the law ep being 016 and infonet ?!?!? and whatever the hell cat # 005 is, who knows. Let me know, I'd like you to see it. Aaron

One time, I got $53.00 for a copy on ebay. a week later, I listed another one, I got $10.00, heheh. Talk about a major price flux. Well, I have one more left, but it was just sold for $25.00! So, hope it hits a high mark for you. Aaron

Stuff added the other day to eBay! Other stuff ending in a few hours today! Go! :> Aaron

Hello, Brandon :> Aaron

There's three CDs listed :-P. I'd take cash. I don't know where you are from, but currency conversions cost too much here. Where I live anyways in the United States. I'd be accepting of mailed money as people from Germany do it for me when I say "oops, I didn't look closely enough, I assumed you did paypal" and they're like teehee just mail cash and I'm like "okay." So yeah, if you're into records...Feel free. Remember, they're not all CDs. Mostly vinyl! Aaron

Okay, many people are asking prior to me listing records on ebay what's for sale. So, I've removed my cd collection from discogs, and am readding just the LPs that I have that'll be listed on eBay soon. So if you're interested in ANY of these, feel free to contact me and be sure to include an offering price. All messages will be ignored if you ask me how much I want for an item! These will be disappearing from the list as they go up on eBay over the next few weeks. http://www.discogs.com/user/psyshaman Also, I am getting rid of a ton of 12"'s/eps, so please don't ask yet. I want to get rid of as many of the albums as possible first. :-) But stay tuned. I will update in the future. Thanks! Aaron Gelner P.S. I know I keep plugging it, but for what's not listed on discogs will be listed here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZheliospace P.S.S. Hope this finally addresses many questions :-P

Well, dmtree :> watch ebay and find out. I have five watchers thus far, go peep and watch it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 It had six watchers, one disappeared. Aaron

Taika-kim, I agree. I see through some of your points and it's very well worded. I mean, I'm not 100% agreeable to your statements, but there are many points that make sense. I, being a father and not having very much money to "spread to the world's disasters", am very reluctant on sharing my "wealth" or what I have left of it. I'm actually now an @home dad, so money is a little tighter as my girlfriend takes care of everything (her choice, not mine, but i ilked the idea of being with my son 24/7 or at least most of the time, i do get a day off here and there to go out with the buds). Anyways, if you're more than willing to donate 5kGPB, feel free man. Heehee! I'd rather put a nice down payment on a house at that rate. I'm not a hippy and I prefer the urban-lifestyle vs. the "forest" love. *grin* But about consumerism in general, it is agreed, but that's what our entire society reflects upon and I don't see it going anywhere else, not for a very long time, if ever. If money was eradicated, we'd be bartering, a form of consumerism. Aaron

I think you ruined the rainbirds cd @ psynews cinos . it's a cd for only the hardcore astral projection fan/collector. after seeing how much you go on about it, i'm almost hesitant to accept the package of rainbirds when it arrives and may just return to sender. =[=[=[[[ I hope my copy comes with a certified cinos stamp on the inserts I'd say you could probably get 2-3 releases, yeah. 4 would be...a little outside of the realm. anywhere between 30-40 dollars, IMO! Aaron

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You're just mad because he's right and has money and you wish you had his collection. I sense jealousy! Well, maybe you should had began collecting when our friend ukiro did =] and spent the money instead on music that you were saving to buy that new 4 million dollar mansion with, teehee. Anyways, I still think you're lazy and jobless and if you want the oldskool "sound" back in your life that bad, go get people to make new releases with it, or even yourself. Oh wait, I bet you're too broke to afford any software too. I bet you DOWNLOAD it too! teeeeheeeee. Erm, I better watch out, UNIX baby! :> I guess I cheat there too. FreeBSD! Now, hey, here's an application, and here's another sheet of paper for the contact of every artist that you've downloaded. Now ask them their opinion :-/ Aaron

Stop being so smart! It's destroying my braincells. Aaron