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This thread has been one of the more favorable topics I've seen here in years :-P okay, maybe not, but it caught my interest. Ten years ago, I was 14. I was looking for a way out. I first smoked pot then. And amazingly, months after smoking my first bowl, I found out about Juno Reactor. I received a copy of Transmissions on CD. I was very impressed. I guess you can say it's goa-techno, whatever, it was acidic, and I loved it. This was my introduction to the US "rave" scene. Then I found regular trance. I loved that too. Having no idea that Juno Reactor was considered a sub-genre, goa trance. I figured what the hell, trance is trance. Well, whilst browsing the internet, I can't remember what site it was, I found a comparison chart with Juno Reactor and other artists being linked. That opened the doorway to my love for psy. In 1997, after Bible of Dreams was released, I sort of backed down. It wasn't because I lost interest. A point of depression hit me, I wasn't musically inclined. Rock, Punk, Hip Hop, Electronica, etc....all the genres I liked, I hated for a point; it took about 7 months to get over. I sat in front of a computer, hacking the planet, wondering when the feds were going to knock down my door. Being a lil' fuck who had no life other than depression and "the computer was my best friend!" Anyways, in 1998, I went to a party and found Ecstacy. Yes, I was late! =] I kept with pot smoking, but anyways, I took a pill, and after that, the wall had been broken. I am so thrilled that the wall had been broken. People came flowing into my life, and I felt light once again. Ever since, it's been an up and down battle, but when the love life takes the best of you away, you kind of sit there, sad. Thank you Shulgin for MDA/MDMA =] P.S. There's a very recent article. I don't see that anyone posted it recently on psynews, but it's an interview with Shulgin: http://www.mg.co.za/printPage.aspx?area=/i...rticleId=259958 Titled "Daddy of Ecstacy" Enjoy! And btw, I no longer do x, it just broke me free of my bubble, and well, I guess I do take it once in a blue moon for the mood enhancing experience. So I lied, so what? aARON

This is too hard. I hate not being overly objective about music. I don't know what's legendary. I know labels, albums on the other hand, if I like it, I like it and it goes on my plus list, which is most music I hear :-D because it's there for different reasons and feelings, jeah! So, really....I will say: Timothy Leary - Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out - Mercury Records 1967?! Okay, that's absurd, whatever. Anyways, goodluck with the list. All the pre-00' shit listed thus far I love and would add a thousand more if it were up to me:-D Aaron 1997 - Dimension 5 - Transdimensional anyone?

Hahaha, you can just hand them over to me? Aaron

I'll say Britney Spears. With those fake boobs, I was down with her as best artist, but only had she showed up in my bedroom before she got pregnant, ugh, and ewww! she was a pig after that. :> Aaron

You know, I've been wanting to hear Cassandra's nightmare for ages. Unfortunately I've never had ANY luck WHATSOEVER locating a copy of it and when it's on eBay it goes for amounts way over my head for ANY music The Sandman - Witchcraft album is on my top 5 list of recommended listening material, dark or not. You have Alex Grey's cover art which is fantastic and then you have Sandman who produced some of my favorite music I've ever heard. Aaron

I love awakening. I find it totally simplified-tech-dark-psy :> I love the mysterious sci-fi atmosphere, it's kind of like twilight zone meets star trek or something. HEH! I don't know how else to describe it, that's the way I remember it and I remember that I love it. (funny cause I have the Awakening "release" poster on my wall above my computers ) "A brilliant piece of work" - Robert Miles I hate Robert Miles :-/ But that's a quote on the poster. Aaron

That study is so 90's =]. Charlie and his time traveling capabilities, grin!

Nemo =] I know, I am just kidding. I often hear that from people around me and my lil' dude. I just say you know what, when he's old enough just remember, his record collection will and is already larger than your's :-P so he already has his future-ego to build on Anyways, psyrock is fun stuff. I wish I knew many other good psyrock bands. Perhaps you Nemo could direct me. I've recently started going after older, 60's, record albums. So, if you know of anything good in that area, I'd appreciate a follow up. Anyways, tell lil' nemo what's up. :> I hope all is well for him and the family. I hope he's not changing dad's diaper yet :-D Aaron

thus far, this thread is turning into a versus thread =] "i know what this is" but the other guy also "knows what this is" which is different from what the first guy knew it as. tis all i'm saying. i myself, think like many others, if its good it's good. but i have yet to find much post-2002 stuff i really enjoy :-/ Aaron

Okay, I hate to tell you this mr. nemo, your kid is going to grow up loving the backstreet boys, n`sync, and boyz ii men man. i'm sorry. i know my lil' man is going to be the same way. what did our parents like? what do we like now? look at our influences, how we rebel in our own way, unwillingly but we just go the opposite way. just wait, really. you just wait. poor kid! he's going to think psytrance is pussy music and that dad's a big puss aaron (i feel like i'm in the boat i just described, but my lil' one loves old dark psy, sandman, darshan, etc -- i never tried infected mushroom, and i wouldn't want to hurt his ears, as well as mine anyways )

The dark atmosphere that rests within a dark track. Wow, someone agrees. That's why I find this new "minimalistic" dark crap hard banging metamorphisis techno :-D don't ask. Far away from the dark that I love and enjoy. dark ambience has retained itself, however while dark psy everyone says "evolved" but why call it dark psy these days? Call it happy hardcore, bahahaaahaaaaa, okay, maybe not but whatever. I think we need a thread "oldskoolahs vs. newskoolahs" so we all can battle it out. These arguments are kind of vague and useless and I feel like every time I discuss why oldschool is better, I'm actually grabbing a bible (and i hate bibles) and beating someone over the head with it, damn fundies. Aaron

Well, mine is perfectly new and yes, the beginning is *VERY* quiet. For the first 2-3 minutes, I forgot how long that ....slow intro goes for, but yes, that track, the beginning, is most definitely a quiet one It's not your copy, it's all of them Aaron

yo, elysium. I just wanted to say that your celestial beings album (the old/re-released one) is pretty cool. I just got it in the mail the other day from cdconnection.com (the nova zembla release) and it was very delightful. I dig! I'll check out these sometime soon! I had no idea you were that elysium, h0h0h0, stupid me. Aaron

You know, I'm technically foolish these days with computers :-D. I've never been a computer sound guy, quite honestly. It was my own fault. I forgot the way the record player *HAHA you're going to laugh at me :-D* sounds is controlled by only the receiver while the soundcard is playing through the computer which is controlled by both the computer AND the receiver, so :-D I just had to make some adjustments to the stupid EQ proggy that comes with my motherboard, ugh i hate technology. Thanks though dude for the link for that program. I'll look into it when I find some records that need some serious help. Right now, I'm ripping: http://www.discogs.com/release/48927 It's in perfect collecting condition and not a scratch to be found. So I figure for testing and getting everything setup this would be the perfect one, and a great record set at that :-D Any digital audio tips anyone can give me though would be great. :-) Aaron (the duh-man)

Hehehe! Yeah, I guess I wouldn't say it sounds horrible. If say I leave the receiver @ -35db for the actual record, the bass kicks out *this is without the subwoofer* and it's kind of thunderous, but not enough to feel it with the speakers. After the track is ripped and it's played through the digital format (wav file) then I get that increase by at least 20-25% which is a definite noticable increase, ugh. It doesn't so much overlap with the mids or the highs, but the bass is just crazy :-D and seems like my woofer is on low volume. Thanks for the link by the way. It'll help. A lot of vinyl I have are well taken care of, gruv-glided to shit and for the most part, next to no scratches, even minor ones on most of them :-D. <- devious is trying to catch up with the digital age, hehe! Aaron P.s. any ideas anyone on the bass issue?

Okay, so I'm trying to begin the HUGE task of converting my vinyl over to MP3 for my personal pleasure since I've began the CD collecting that I've put off for so long :-D Anyways, I would like to ask you folks this who are familiar with ripping vinyl: My setup consists of Soundforge 8, and a hardware device designed for ripping particularly vinyls (xitel inport). Anyways, technical concern is this: When ripping a track and then playing back, the basslines seem incredibly thunderous. You can hear the track but man, the basslines take over. I'm wondering if ANYBODY knows if this is normal and if there's any measures that can be taken to drop the thunderous bass and try to attenuate or to reproduce the bass line that comes from the vinyl, thus making it less overpowering? To answer any potential questions ask, I've done 24bit/96k as well as 16bit/44.1k and I did noticed a little less thunderous bass in the 16bit world, but ummm can someone perhaps break down what's up with vinyl? How do they usually go about "mastercutting" a record?! Thanks :-D Aaron

I started fairly recently buying CDs instead of vinyl. Here's what I got today though: Eat Static: Abduction B-World Implant Science of the Gods Elysium - Dance for the Celestial Beings and from a trade I did with The Journey Man: Various - Caribbean Eclipse Various - Cornwall Eclipse ... CDs are so much easier to maintain :-D But my love for vinyl shall never cease! Aaron

Nothing to do with styles, purely a joke out of the looks of skazi at a show he did I think in 2003 or 2004 in Mexico and a show Xenomorph did in Belgium. They just looked so much alike from the photos I seen and yes there were definite differences, I'm just saying, the similarities were scary in these photos. It was almost like the photo of George Bush and the ape faces posted all over the internet. It was just hilarious to look at. I can't find the Mexico pictures of skazi otherwise I'd do a side by side! Again, nothing to do with styles, just a humorous look at them side by side Aaron

MIKE R0X0RZ J0R S0X0RZ!@#!@# Okay, so maybe you don't wear socks? Anyways, I made a trade with him, two CDs for two CDs from saiko. He got his, I got mine. We might of been assinine at one point with one another *LAUGH* but I like the way this guy deals. He hooks ya up, yo! :-D Thank you Mike. Regards - Aaron

Oh oh oh! Hold on, I Have to ask, was that bah to skazi's twin brother, or the ... only better comment? I hope not the latter of the two :-/ I'd be disappointed if so. =] Aaron

I must say it is very obvious that groups fit their own genre. Come on, we can't put Motley Crue, Megadeth, Deicide, Slayer, Eminem, 2-Pac, Beastie Boys, 2livecrew, The Infinity Project, Garth Brooks, Hawkwind, Astral Projection, Power Source, Infected Mushroom, Skazi (yuck), Xenomorph (skazi's twin brother, only better ), Hux Flux, etc, etc, etc, the list could go on in the genre of MUSIC. Now, if we're talking sub-genres, let's see. Gangster rap vs. Hip Hop. Definitely not alike. Goa and psytrance, could be very much alike, depending on your origination of psytrance. But most people decide to keep them apart for some odd reason! Progressive, full-on, I don't get these two sub-sub-genres. These I can see them not working. But when you think of music as just music, then you're going to begin to get confusing looks Heavy Metal, Death Metal, Black Metal -- all genres of Metal which I would not perceive as rock! We keep the genres separated not for the benefit of the record stores but to allow ourselves to be trendy, to follow a certain path. We could say we're "RELIGIOUS" but rather we identify with a path and I won't even name them. I, however, am not Genres just help identify those who are into the same realm of interests with regards to music. "I'm a DJ, I spin MUSIC" would not be an acceptable approach to describing your music you are spinning and therefore I would not allow you to spin at any of my parties because obviously you're lacking the identifier that we're looking for to draw the people in. :-D Just my .02 cents. Regarding 1200mics, I have no f-ing clue. I've never heard even one track from them and I'm one who sides with goa and psy being one of the same anyways due to the nature of the origin of both styles having evolved from one another and "Goa, India" duh! Aaron - HEH!

Rennis, I hate to break it to you, I already know that shop. That would be letitbe =]. Unfortunately, they closed the walk-in door to their shop and now operate a warehouse a few miles from where I live but he, Ryan, I think that's his name, went pure mail order, unfortunately So, he does his research and puts the stuff online on eBay and whatnot now. I actually got a rare copy of Spectral's Bizarre Planet release on Subliminal records from him! :-D Aaron

I wanted this until I realized my bank account was drained this morning no thanks to buying CDs from Germany as of late, ugh! Damn mailing cash for shit! :-/ Anyways, I love and have all of Koxbox's stuff pre-2000 so I will assume that this is just as wonderful and psychedelic as most of their other tunes. =] Aaron

Wow, I have to agree. I was just thinking that as I was reading through the thread. I saw someone posted a transwave track previously, but yeah grab that quasar ep from symbiosis and drop CoL. Totally a 10/10 track in my opinion especially for the occasion. Everything else seems either a little too energetic (the ones i know) or too sissy like :-D Aaron

Heh, you people just keep nagging. I think it's funny you folks jump down his throat but with diamonde7 selling the same CD and getting 25 bucks for it, I really don't see any dishonesty with a request. It's not about being a liar. This CD is fairly rare. It was available for a little bit, so what? I know TRANCE-SHOP sold Transwave's Hypnorhythm RECENTLY for UNDER 5US DOLLARS. Does this make this something that's widely obtainable because a certain shop has x amount of copies? I did not see TJM ripping ANYBODY off. I see him as one who had stuff to trade and tried to trade and he actually (if we all use ebay as a priceguide as most here seem to do) took a HUGE loss on things, including a CD he traded with me which he could had made 15 dollars more on :-D if we used eBay as the psytrance price guide. Some people could care less about money. He wasn't asking for money. He was making fair trades. If you are the sucker who gets yourself SCREWED, that is your own problem. You're the moron who didn't do the research necessary. Do all of you buy a car without inspecting to see if it runs? I pretty much got the jist of it as being as such and thereby conclude many of you seriously have your own issues. I bought DIMENSION 5 - Transdimensional for 9 dollars and FIFTY CENTS from a shop on the east coast. I know the value of this CD and what people would do for it, but guess what, that's all they were asking. I thought wow, what a fair price. They did not ask me for 76GBP which it sould for on eBay. It's up to the person to make the buy, not the seller to do the selling :-D There are enough people in this world with various opinions about things to decide whether they want something at a certain price or not. I've never met TJM in person but again, I think based on his trading here, he has been a delight of a trader here. Who else would trade synergy by cosmosis for a 13 dollar CD? =/ Aaron