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When people talk about melodies, 99% of the time they are talking about more obvious melodious sounds. Not changing synths, beats that go up & down or drones that move slightly

I am with you on this one. Apart from the first couple of minutes I found the album to much much much weaker than twisted. It's not bad but it was a HUGE disappointment. People seem to thing un the psytrance work that if you don't think Simon Posford's farts are the best music ever then your taste in Pie is shit. However the best Hallucinogen tracks not on twisted for me are The Herb Garden and E, both downtempo works. I also thought that FOL was fantastic. Better even than IFO. For me the most disappointing albums for me were Scorb - Ipso Fvcto A good album but nowhere near as much as the debut album Scorb Ian Ion - Gringo Locomotion I thought this was alright but I was expecting big big things from this Kettel - Whisper Me Wishes Another album that alone is really good, but for me was to similar to My Dogan and I was expecting something more like Myam James (then Myam James came out) First I was like but then I was Eat Static - Back To Earth Just didn't know what to make of this, it wasn't bad but didn't demand too many repeat listens after all. Eat Static have put out so many 100+ listens albums but this one was like under 15 Planet Ben - Test After an amazing psy album and a brilliant minimal album this was just shit! (This one was shit! Not just disappointing like the others I've listed) Ooze - Where The Fields Never End I had heard so many good things about this album but just didn't grab me Biosphere - Substrata This is a great album but I bought it based on my peers saying it was the best ambient album ever. It isn't! Hallucinogen - The Lone Deranger Not a patch on Twisted Hol Baumann - Human My first ultimae disappointment. I was expecting great great things from this and it is indeed great. But 1/3 of it was all stuff I'd heard before. I Awake - The Core Liked it but it is not really up to Ultimae standards

Mr. Rogers - Ooze System

This is a pretty immature outlook on music. No offence as I know it can take a while to understand music without melodies but once you do you find that non melodic music can be the deepest, trippiest music! It is easy to make pleasant shallow music with melodies (although there is a lot of great music with melodies, I am not dissing melodies here. Love Kettel ) but it takes real skill to make engaging music without them and it usually takes more on part of the listener to appreciate but it is well worth it. Give it a try I thought the same up til 15 :wank:

I'd have to go for Classical Mushroom as well. Such a great album. Loved it in the middle of a huge forest

Saul Stokes - Camera Clicks big surprise for me as Saul's work that I own is much more minimal but this was really melodic

I'll be waiting til june for my next order though. Just paid $5000 to move house

Looks like I'll have to get it then

Saiko Sounds has 4 minute samples. Enough to show if it's good enough I think. Downloading something would probably make me less likely to buy it, I mean I already have it right? So I don't like to do it

It's been OOP for a long time. You are probably never going to find it on web shops. You must look around. Ebay, yahoo and weird little sites are often good places to look.

Subradial - Biophotonic Sunrise

Yeah. As any genre becomes bigger it gets watered down, more generic bland music just uses the name to promote itself

Not actually heard this yet! Need to make a list of must gets for my next order. This will probably get on it.

I think it looks quite nice but....come on! Sell it a little

Nope! Psybient is the chillout music that came out of the psychedelic trance scene. Ambient can be ultra psychedelic but it isn't going to be called psybient by anyone. Also a lot of things labelled psy are not very psychedelic. Fullon psy does not often do it for me, I don't find it psychedelic at all.

Something doesn't have to have psy in the title for it to be psychedelic! For me most ambient is more psychedelic than any psybient etc etc...

IMO psytones is definitely one of the best contributors to psynews at the moment. Seeing him banned for a week was excessive and even if it wasn't, there was much worse that was tolerated!

I'm hoping this will work for me too

My first stab Horizons Stepped out of infinity, plus one more beautiful step in finite self. The liquid shade of a pulse, too whole to mix with my limited self. Out of something comes, the void of nothingness inside its heart. A borrowed skin upon me, I am 30 times the speed of night. A nomad to the karmic light, I find the empty house at the end of my mind.

His last album was free?

You can find it at Saiko Sounds

Kettel is great! Really. My Dogan, Myan James Part One, Whisper Me Wishes, Through Friendly Waters & Volleyed Iron are all the albums I have. All of them are good with My Dogan, Myam James & Volleyed Iron being great IMO. For an IDM artist though Kettel is talked about a lot here, you might find more discussion on IDM forums http://www.idmforums.com/showthread.php?t=10751

I wanted to vote both but I haven't been to a party I haven't played at in quite a while now & I really enjoy listening at home so a housecat I am

CBL are high on my watch list

What the fuck is that?