Otto Matta

I still don't know exactly what "P.A." (as in "Live P.A.") stands for.

Not everyone, Navigator.

X-Dream, of course. And maybe Xploring Inner Space.

January 24 from Spirit Zone: Spirallianz - Stereopark 1. Hide & Seek 2. Bitnapped 3. Patchfinder 4. The Fuser 5. Battlejuice 6. Stereopark 7. A23 8. Neurosport 9. Soulprint 10. In, Out / Thru Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No.

moonwoman - Shipping was $13.40 for four CDs. Shipping by courier is a few dollars more expensive than regular shipping. If you're in the States you should look at trancetrax.com since they're local, they have decent stock, and the shipping would be cheaper.

Very good question...

I was going to, Z., but I thought two references to off-topic might be too much.

phaeton - You're joking, right??? Thanks, lunar. PUNKIES!!!

Holy moley, lunar. What's that? Alcyone live? How did you get your hands on the new Pleiadians? When's it coming out? I want answers! I want new Pleiadians! They're our last chance! Hahaha.

Mr. Hanky - No offense taken. "but one truly good party can make any trance-veteran a beleiver again!!!!" I think you've hit on a valuable point, Mr. Hanky. Seems trance music these days is being made only to dance to, whereas a few years ago it was being made to dance AND listen to. I don't go to parties - there are no trance parties in Chicago. I'm strictly a home listener. I want music I can really LISTEN to. VTOL is a great example of a very listenable track. I wish there was more like that. Otherwise, I'm bored.

I noticed Saikosounds is selling Tandu - Multimoods (I thought it was out of print). How does that compare?

Holy shit. I've been listening to VTOL many times. I think I've got a new favorite track. I can't get enough of it. It's at least as good, if not better, than anything on IFO, in my opinion. I need more of THIS!

nikosdevic - The point of this thread is not about giving up psy trance for other styles of music. Of course there's a lot of good music out there - I actually tend to prefer it - but I think the point is that we'd like some better music coming out of the psy trance genre because we like that sound as well. We know what artists and labels are capable of (i.e., 1996-1999), but we're not getting it. If anything, the lack of good psy trance is driving old fans to other genres. Chill-out is becoming a booming little business, for instance.

HAHAHA, Mike. I copied that from the post above mine.

I was talking about that GMS clone sound that's everywhere these days.

I find it REALLY interesting how just two years ago or less we were all complaining about how minimalism was taking everything over. Then we got what we asked for, which was more full-on music. Now there's too much full-on, and we're complaining about that. I wonder whether, WAYYYYYY, WAYYYYYY back in the old days, around 97 or 98, people were complaining how everything sounded like Pleiadians. Hehe. Don't think so.

"I fyou dont like it dont buy it - simple - period." Well, I think that's kinda the point, Mr. Optix. Seriously, what if someone WANTS to buy more albums, but there's nothing good enough to buy? Mike, you silly shit, some people are a little harder to satisfy.

I sympathize with the sentiment behind Implant's message. Labels have been putting out too much crap. Maybe it's not their fault. Maybe the're just releasing the best stuff that is submitted to them. Still, I think the bar has been lowered in the last couple of years and someone needs to come along and raise it again, back to where it was or higher. That doesn't mean that we should boycott the labels. That's a little extreme, especially since the poor quality of their releases will put them out of business eventually anyway. But the mediocrity of releases these days has kept me from buying anything for many months now. I think I've bought maybe 5 or 6 psy CDs this whole year, about 5% of what I bought last year. I'm probably not alone. Someone please raise the bar. Please.

Sorry about the "VSOL" thing. Guess I was thinking about FSOL. LOL. Yeah, Anton, I agree, Tech Trance is the only subgenre I'm aware of in the scene with any sort of vitality and ingenuity. Kind of a weird thing happening these days. The Psy Chill-out stuff is becoming more popular than the trance. I don't mind that so much, but I'd love if we had a trance revolution. I for one am slip sliding away.

Yeah, good stuff.

Just listened to this amazing track, the full-length version, and I'm wondering where all the energy and spirit in the Goa/Psychedelic scene has disappeared to. Where did it go? And why? Is there a chance it will ever come back? Or is it better to just let it go and move onto something else, to some other genre? Your opinions?

Oh, okay, Roopak. My bad. I've never seen those before.

khogg and Hallucinogenious - What they're talking about is separate outer box that a jewel case slides into.

I'm not a DJ, I'm just a listener. I don't like those cases. I don't want anything that makes it harder for me to access the actual disk. My ideal is a single-fold digipack. My favorite package so far is Juno Reactor's Bible of Dreams. It's single-fold, it has a booklet attached to the fold-out with tons of great images and information. Another great set of packaging is the Pole series - "1," "2" and "3." Single-fold, with just the color of the album (solid blue, red and yellow), the only writing is done extremely minimally and is embossed and glossy - one can hardly see it. In Pole's case, it's about the music only, not a lot of packaging. It's slick, simple and beautiful. I've got both Irritant and Send In ...Send Back (and the new Oforia) and I find the cases annoying. Too much crap to route through to get at the CD. It looks okay, but it's impractical as far as I'm concerned. I can understand, however, why DJs would like them.