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Was just about to post something to 'ophitoblabla' over there, but then I realized he was banned.

I do like alot of thinner releases. I've made a semi-finished list of the stuff I liked in this other topic a while ago: http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?sh...st&p=918268 I never knew about this sublabel tho! Time to steal some more bandwidth again.

Funny I thought the same thing. Heard lots of tracks that were just meh.. But I did hear a few tracks that I really liked.

Try to look beyond the scope of what I said.. When I mean "out of nowhere", I don't mean the money part of it. I mean they started this label with an intention to release goa material, even tho goa was pretty much a thing of the past. (well they called it mellodic-psy but we all know what that means)

Nah, the Suntrip people are working their asses off (imo). You could say that they need more exposure, and the best way to expose something to the world is by presenting themselves in the best light possible to a much broader number of people. But, this all falls to water since we know that Suntrip is really dedicated to just a small niche of music genres. If they were to broaden their spectrum of music they want to release, they would grow. But I'm not sure that's what they want to do. As far as I know this label was opened to promote the almost forgotten Goa genre, and this keeps being their main focus in the label. To be honest, there's not many artists who are that inspired to make goa trance music. The main problem is, this genre of music can be very complex and it really requires alot of experience to be able to output a good goa album. Think about it, these new artists have a very steep hill to climb, the Goa we used to listen to (and still do) has set some incredible standards throughout the years when it was active. It's very hard to recreate that standard. Personally, even tho I might not find the newschool Goa as inspiring as the 'old' one (yet!), I know that these artists will grow over time. The more they make music, the better they become. I think the Suntrip people have so far done a kick-ass job. They've built a record label out of nowhere, and inspired not only the fans but artists all over the world. So I really hope Suntrip still lives on, and artists like Filteria, Khetzal and a dozen others not mentioned here keep up with their efforts. Because that's what really counts, the effort. Not the money or the exposure.

I didn't say he wasn't good, just not a 'god'. Here's pretty good, but still has some time till he gets there.

Awesome, thanks for the release!! The same quality, yeah. But it's not exactly the same format. Have a browse thru the FAQ here for more info http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html#general__what_is

The latter uses fatter basslines

To be honest I think music in general is priced unresonably. Lets take for example factories, which create products with not too much effort, almost everything is automated. These products can be copied for distribution to millions of people. And you have products that are worth anywhere from 100$ to 100.000$ or more. The harder the process to make that product the more money the product ends up costing. At least that's the theory. Yet when an artist - a single person or a band - takes 2 years to create an album, which takes enormous efforts, that album ends up costing what.. 20$? I'm saying, money doesn't show how much effort someone has put into their work and neither does it show how much someone loves that music. Especially when you know that someone who's working in Germany get's payed 10x the ammount of someone working in east europe for the same job and the same effort. Money is a corrupt system and you can't value music by it.

Not bad. But not god.

Yeah 5.1 wasn't that welcome, especially by artists. Thats like, 4 more channels to worry about! Not to mention it has grown up to 7.1 since a few years ago (Is it even more channels now?). Insane, only useful for movies really. Unless someone is brave enough to actually try making (digital) music with 8 channels in some kind of meaningful way (like not just duplicate the stereo to all of the channels). Classical music might sound cool tho. I've never heard of that many multichannel albums really. I do believe there was a thread for this somewhere..?

Why would you be glad that your ears suck? Wouldn't you like to hear more?

Vibrasphere - Selected Downbeats One of vibrasphere's finest releases, but they only chose to release it in 320k. Yeah that is digital form but it's still not wav.

That would make muslims the most environment-aware people on the planet. Or is wasting water the same as wasting paper? Hmm.. I'm gonna need some diagrams for that. What is more environment-friendly: wiping your ass with water or with paper? OR maybeee, wiping your ass with the CD you just ripped? Two birds with one stone?

You really need to get out more Wise choice of words there! Thanx for the track btw! I'm just gonna start listening right now. I've prepared tissues and extra pair of underwear just in case .. in case the first pair of underwear isn't going to be enough.

Yeah you might of had a point there. But Da Vinci drew the picture originally on paper and not on a computer screen, that's why its special. But how about digital artists? Would you appreciate their work more on a printed paper or a screen, even tho they drew their paintings on a computer screen? If you would stay true to the source, then you would have to appreciate it more on a computer screen. Music artists on the other hand recorded their music onto hard drives and memmories (doesn't matter if they used hardware synths or not). They didn't directly record the music onto the CD's. So there's nothing 'real' about CD's when it comes to music. That being said I don't mind people who love CD's in a special way. But CD's are merely just a copy of a work of music art and a nice cover picture on it. The only reason why the music industry chose CD's instead of any other format is because they were a good format at that time. Unfortunately for the music industry, they overlooked the possibility of expansion and were not willing to move forward as technology progressed over time. And because of that they run into problems with digital downloads. And because of that the switch from CD's to another format such as digital downloads is so painful at this time, because people got used to the CD format for too long to just let go of it now. If the music industry actually had any sense to it, we wouldn't even had CD's by this time and age. They would be pretty much extinct by now. (Legal) digital downloads would be known for years allready and would be the driving force of the industry. They made a mistake by not following the trends of technology, and now because of their mistakes they're loosing their money. It's their own fault, even tho they want to blame it on piracy. It's as simple as that.

I do hope these compact sticks are read-only tho. Otherwise they could be easily volnurable to virus infiltrations. Of course this can happen with any writable medium.

Well I'm going to cheat a bit and say: Etnica - 1. Tribute (Vinyl Rip) There is an mp3 version of that vinyl rip, but no wav's tho (that I could find of). Edit: Oops, excuse me but that was another vinyl there. I know they must of re-released it in CD format somewhere hto. Ohh that vinyl magic..

But don't you get it guys? You're just hanging on to something temporary. You might of for example loved vinyl in the old days but now all you buy is cds. When some new carrier comes up you emotionally attach yourself to it. It doesn't make any sense at all. You should all be connected to the MUSIC, not the sound carrier. CD-ROM's or Hard Disk Platters, it's the same thing (yeah technically not but it's close enough). The only reason you never see someone spinning a hard drive instead of a cd is because it's unpopular and thus would look rediculous to you. This whole CD-loving has to do with what is popular, not what 'feels right'. The reason you love CD's so much is because you got used to them, they did afterall became a world-wide standard. But history repeats itself, over and over again. Next you'll attach yourself emotionally to these USB sticks, untill something new comes up. And then you will hate the new standard, say how USB sticks were so awesome, but after a while you will move on. And over and over again. Standard after standard. In it's essence it's just music, what difference is it on what surface it is carried on? Vinyl might have made a difference (since it really does change the way that music actually sounds - for better or worse), but digital music will sound the same on any type of digital carrier. To me music is music in whichever form it comes in. And the reason I said CompactSticks won't make it to the market is simply because it's too late for marketing this kind of product, especially now that digital downloads have expanded so much.

I really don't understand why people have to feel something in their hands. It's not like you're actually touching the CD while its spinning in your cd player. The CD Player just reads the digital data that's on the CD and sends analog signals to the speakers. Just because it's wrapped in plastic doesn't change the fact that it's just binary data. Binary data that is later interpreted into analog signals. Fuck man, give it a break allready, it's DIGITAL ANYWAYS. You can wrap it up in seven boxes but it wouldnt make a difference. Why is it lame to play music via a computer but not via a cd player? It's the same bloody thing. Computers are just a bit more complex because they have more then just one assignment like the cd player (which is to just do D/A basically). Do you think that music artists use a PEN to write music onto the CD? Cmon man! This whole touching objects thing is ridiculous!

Unless you have 5$ Logitech PC Spakers, have been living in a dungeon for the last 5 years, been taken to a hospital because of a near drug overdose a couple of dozen times, been working as an oil rigger for the last 20 years without any ear protection, then YES, you should hear a fucking difference. Of course I'm just kidding there. But there's numerous factors that contribute to just how much (if any) difference you can hear. And that's the whole point. Not every music will shine by using wav's or flac's instead of mp3's. Regular pop music is so much compressed and so light on the instruments that you probably wouldn't hear much of a difference. The same goes with 99% of all the full-on music (for me). There's nothing more I can hear with wav's or flac's then mp3's on that type of music . Not unless I was a full-on hardcore fan that gets a hard-on from those fat basslines, maybe then I could actually hear a difference there. But when it comes to complex music that has numerous layers and uses a really wide spectrum of sounds, then the differences between Wav's (or Flac's) and Mp3's become more apparent. Again to me, because I listen loud and really deep, and I can hear that difference. So yeah, to answer your question. There are actually people who can hear the difference. Maybe you can't, maybe 80% of the population can't, but there are people who can and who care. Saying that people can't hear the difference is the same assumption as when someone thinks that a person can't see visual changes faster then 30 frames per second. Yet there are Navy pilots who have a trained eye that can detect changes in multiple hundreds of fps. Some people just have more developed hearing or sight then others. What's so hard to understand?

Haha, here I go again. I specifically remember the old days AP used to put their tracks on their mp3 site for free. And I specifically remember the track Aurora Borealis, which was taken from Trust In Trance 3. Now, the confusion part is between tracks 7 and 8 on that album. 7 - Astral Projection Feat. MFG - Radial Blur (7:40) 8 - SFX - Aurora Borealis (8:03) The thing is, I've been listening to the Aurora Borealis track for ages (the mp3 one from mp3.com years ago) and I allways thought that was it's original name. But on the album, the track is named Radial Blur instead, while 'Aurora Borealis' is a completely different track. And it seems like I've been listening to a track with the wrong title for all these years now. The discogs and youtube say the same. here's AP - Radial Blur on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10wgJwzx0KQ. Here's a live of Aurora Borealis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgaGlhtmetE. It seems like it really is Radial Blur that I've been listening to all along. But I have become so accustomed to the Aurora Borealis name, that I don't even want to rename my rips. That track will allways be Aurora Borealis for me.. it kind of has a special name.. Isn't ignorance bliss? Has anyone else been confused by these 2 tracks? They've obviously wrongly named their tracks back when they uploaded their stuff on mp3.com, I'm sure I'm not the only one that's been listening to the wrong track all the time hehe.

Well, maybe because of a couple of things: 1. ~74 minutes seem to be good enough for most people as a 'standard' in the maximum length of music presented on a single disc. 2. DVD's could potentially have 'extra's' on them, for example images or videos, but then they have to be in a mixed format which makes them incompatible with some CD/DVD players in the market (at least that used to be a problem in the old days). 3. DVD's are more prone to scratches - as far as I know. And they're more expensive then CD's. Or they used to be. 4. Most Audio manufacturing plants were designed to work with CD's, upgrading them now wouldn't really make much sense (economically). Especially in the days where CD sales have dropped so much. Well I'm not really following the news about the disc formats so I may be wrong on a couple of things but those used to be the problems anyway. Someone enlighten me on the differences today, I've no idea really.

My thoughts exactly. Even using compact sticks instead of slotmusic doesn't really help at all. I can't tell you how many times I've lost a usb stick somewhere. And SlotMusic would be a horror really. I think these 'new' approaches are destined to fail. One factor is wireless internet which is emerging everywhere, you just need some device with wifi installed and you can get your music easily downloaded on your mp3 player (iPhone anyone?). And why carry a 2 gb stick around when your portable mp3 player has way more storage then that. I don't really understand for which group of people these products are aimed for (Maybe the stupid?). You can allready download or rip music and store it on a USB stick. What's the point of having 2 Gb sticks for every album? These products are a waste of plastic, metal, and flash memmory if you ask me.

Actually I've done some googling and found that tgdaily article, it was something else they introduced a while ago. But it's almost the same thing, here it's named "SlotMusic" and it uses microSD's instead of Sticks: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39812/98/ SlotMusic Pictures