NEMO.BOFH

Hmmm, so what would you like me to do? Is this fact?! Should this thread be closed and/or even set invisible?

I was tempted to close this, as I thought this might be some scam, Spam thing, but check out the previous posts by the guy, and you will see that it is not a bot: http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?s=...st&p=918364 So, there seems to be some confusion in his post, and coming from Australia, his English is not the best, but still, I think it is pretty interesting Lets see where this leads (willb3 can you please elaborate?!) //Nemo.NOFH

I have re-uploaded and put all the TekkTrance mixes on one blog page, for you that are interessted. All with tracklistings. TekkTrance Series: Volume 2 Volume 3 Volume 4 Volume 5 Chill Series Trippest of the Survivors Volume One Please rate and comment if you can, it means a lot to me! Thanks!

As suggested before, very mature! Either it is homophobia, or it is just homo? :wank: Wonder what would happen if Hallucinogen made a track called : Hallucinogen - EAT MY FUCKING ARSE MUSHROOM! LOOOOOOOOOOOL Infantile music, for infantile minds (sorry, but the above tracklist proved my point!!)

I dont get this post? And no, I would never pay that money for Shpongle.

Who is trying to be non-mainstream here?

for those who have linux: wget -c http://www.fullonline.org/wav/Isratrance_wav.rar cause that will bypass the limit they seem to have at 250mb download

I have to admit that is one of the best picture satires ever made of me. kudos to you! Just TBOFH?! And yeah, people tend to make silly pictures to take away the attention of what is really the point of the topic SSD for the win IMO!

w h a t e v e r ; ) you have heard about burn failures right? They look right on your current setup, but wont be read in any other setup? You have heard about USB sticks that can not be read in any other computer than yours? You have heard about fuck ups, right? You do not have to be rich, nor a tech freak to run a safe raid? It all depends on how much data you want to back up, does it not? Are you talking about 100gb or about 5 tb? Heck if it is about 10gb here, I would get myself 2 usb sticks and thats that... If we are talking about 500GB plus, I would not even take the risk to put them on DVDS without getting a 2nd backup. 500gb/4.7gbx2? C O M M O N... thats around 150 Euros in just dvds, and the amount of time it would take ya? 500GB of HDD costs around 30-40 euros at the moment, 500gb x 5 = 200 Euros.... which do you prefer?! And how many USB sticks would that not take? It all depends of what you want to back up and HOW MUCH it is. If I had 20 gb of music, or if I had 500GB of music that I have done, I would consider my options. But hey, I am just a tech freak! Edit: How precious is your data to you!?

edit: never mind, I do not have time for going around in circles. Listen to Dharma Labs, he knows his shit! I am wrong, he is right

4 drives? I am talking about 4+4 Drives. Drives are cheap as fuck now. And for Raid 10 I would go 4+4x2. But of course, if you only have bullshit to save, then 4 single drive backups is just going to do the trick....

2 or more single drives?! You prefer 2 or more single drives over a raid 10? Over a Raid 5 with 3 redun disks?! You are c r a z y

R A I D . 5 U L T I M A T E L Y R A I D . 1 0 I was JUST about to build my raid 10 and shove the data onto that before the rain. Forget about DVD and DL DVD. Unsafe like hell. Tape Backup or Raid 5/10 Devices with plenty of disks as Redun, is the only way to go. R A I D people, R A I D!!!!!

Ok, so what you are saying is, that the formula does not have to apply? Dont get me wrong here, but the formula was pretty clear back in the days imo. Indian sound, alien sounds and not so "straight forward" as all the other "trance". You are talking about Juno Reactor, I would say, it is more tech trance, than Psy trance (when speaking about formula) and would not classify as Psy/Goa in my book, and that might be my mistake as well. As for Eat Static, it had more of the formula than for instance the Platipus stuff. For me, the platipus stuff fit well into a goa set, but not necessarily sounding like psy or goa. It had some really nice ACID TRANCE but the formula was not there. Of course, it is in the ear of the beholder to chose, and I might be out on a limb here. I might be totally wrong about what I say -well not wrong, but just not agreeing with what 90% of the others say- but still if you listen closely to tracks that are released in the same time, BPC for instance, is a total break apart from the goa/psy sound, but still was/is considered one major release in this scene. I mean, in the days, way back then in the 90s, you had "goa" djs spin everything from Vernons Wonderland, Energy 52 to stuff from Planet Rhythm. The first 5 releases on Planet Rhythm were back then considered as major releases in the Psy Scene, but for me it was more Tech Trance than anything else. Which later then became Techno. Today they are considered Techno Releases... This discussion however, is not about right or wrong, it is about releases that were misplaced in our genre, and made a milestone, even though it was not really a Psy Release. And its nice that you mentioned Platipus, I mean, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn6RJKXejtw One of the most epic TRANCE tracks that I have ever heard, also seen as one of the milestone tracks in psy, but by other scenes seen as as something else.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUQR-qIrXso...feature=related (Remixed by one of the finest Techno Producers out there) Ok, OK! I know that the sound was way broader back then, and that at Techno Parties -or raves- there was a lot of variation... I am trying to look back and see... not what was back then, but what is today... in a way... Cause the particular track, is by the TRANCE SCENE seen as a major milestone for its genre today! (scene wars?!) Edit: What about this track? What is that? (One of the MOST PLAYED tracks on Psy Parties in Sweden back then)

does somneone have a direct link to the wav? I am trying for the 100th time, and it dies around 70% all the fucking time.

I planned a backup, and then it rained on my backup server, just after I deleted around 10 years of work I have recovered 10 tracks out of well, around .... fuck it, too damn many!

:posford: :clapping: :posford: :clapping: Downloading, can not wait to hear this

Yes, true that. I can not argue against it. However, you can not argue that D-Nox and Beckers were ever considered a PSY milestone. You can argue that fans of "Electro House" became more aware of the whole other scene with D-Nox and Beckers or other similar artists. That Trentemoller is taken up in this topic is also totally out of my comprehension to be honest. Trentemoller might be psychedelic to me, but has absolutely nothing to do with PSYtrance imo

But still not seen as a PSY milestone. You are still talking about TASTE here. Not about what the MOREPART of our scene has seen as a milestone and clearly is not even psytrance. I think D-Nox and Beckers were more seen as a BREAKOUT part from the psy scene, and has made it very far aside from the scene.. No? Just like the latest Ticon?

Maybe you should listen to the release, and then make your mind up. The thing is that you just replied to a topic, with no knowledge of even what I was talking about, which is pretty damn fucking sad. I mean, come ON, if you do not even know the track, and then you ask me for an EXAMPLE, that is pretty damn LAME if you ask me. Here you go: (Found it on YouTube LOL) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEV7ulWsxus (Wonderland) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGZ9h4s03Z0 (Overbloody Flood) and then compare to: (Genetic - Transmission) Or that Listen to the so called elements, the ones that we try and identify as being goa or psy... Just try and feel what is the difference..?? And I am not trying to be a cunt about this, I am trying to have an INTELLIGENT discussion about how some tracks or even acts ended up being "Psy" but are clearly not. Not that I mind in any sense, I still love the music... (yes 3 of them above are some of my fav tracks EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER!) Hint to you: Listen to the mainline coming in at 3.17 of the genetic track, such elements were the typical ones for "Goa" or "Psychedelic Trance" back then... Analyze, and then get back to me pliz?! I mean, I do not even mind if you argue against me, maybe I am totally wrong about things here, but for ME the 2 first posted tracks are clearly built on the "same formula" whilst the 3rd track is NOT!

Maybe if you read what I said in my initial post, you would get it? Stop being a nitpicker Uhhhh, I DID!?! :wank:

I hate to say, you all failed at this topic. I am not talking about what you hate or dislike, I am talking about releases that people THINK are psy/goa but does not have the elements of it at all. BPC is a perfect example of this for ME. If you hate KoxBox, that is one thing, but I think that KoxBox has way more psychedelic elements than alot of the music released at the time of the first few KoxBox releases. Please, do not make this topic a "I hate Etnica, so I do not think they made a milestone" take REAL milestone releases that are considered psy, that do not have the PSY elements. Cant find one?! Dont let your taste drift this topic apart from what it is /Das Bast00rd

IMO, BPC - Overbloody Flood EP on UFK does NOT class as PsyTrance or is not even close to being Goa. Why? Well, have a look at other labels like Eye-Q or Harthouse, and you will hear why. It has none of the elements of Goa/Psy, but it does have ALL the elements of classic Trance. Yet we say in our scene it belongs to our scene. How weird isn't that? I mean, this track was probably less played in Goa than Vernons Wonderland, but yet Wonderland is not tagged Oldschool Goa Now you go! (I have a couple of other objections as well)

Nah it would not be cheating actually, cause he could chose a Virus TI or a Nord or something... Or even any other Modular synth. I would let that one slip actually

There is also www.mnml.nl