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Love it!

My favourite album by Biosphere is Polar Sequences which he did with H.I.A. It's even more special than Substrata IMO. Absolutely beautiful. People who dig Biosphere should check out Irezumi.

Great recommendation. I'm a big fan of that hypnotic Italian sound. Sabatini got a lot of play on the techno circuit a few years back with this: Also, the Zooloft label is full of stellar releases.

Maybe you refer to something like this classic: Great recommendation there, I really like that track!

Come on, show me some harsher acid than Arsonik!

That's why I mentioned Regis, not Surgeon. I'm a big fan of Regis's early work and as I recall even he said in interviews that he was putting everything through an amplifier and aiming for the most uncompromising sound possible. Sure in his later work particularly with Sandwell District there is a more psychedelic air but it's still far from the psychedelic synths of artists like Orphx and Rrose. Exactly, the Birmingham sound influenced the Berlin sound, but in other respects they are quite different. That is why I chose this broad title for the thread. If I called it simply "Birmingham Techno" or "Berghain Techno" most of the tracks I posted wouldn't fit, whereas if I called it just "Techno" that would be far too broad and people would be posting Detroit stuff. I don't find debating genre boundaries particularly interesting or enlightening so why don't we go on recommending tracks? In fact if I had to choose a different thread title it might be "Stroboscopic Artefacts", the label which is pushing this sound the most. Excellent releases all around.

Good point, pretty much any Koxbox track deserves to be here.

Thanks a lot for the input Cybernetika. @ulmehagen I'm fully aware that this isn't an official genre, but if you listen to the Orphx track and others I posted you'll find it is an apt description. You claim that the essence of techno is very psychedelic and industrial, which is simply false. Techno is a broad church. For instance, lots of techno is inspired by IDM or is very minimal, without psychedelic elements at all. The Birmingham sound is not a suitable description, since artists like Regis aren't focussing on being psychedelic but on being raw and banging. Most of the artists I listed have more to do with the Berlin scene than the Birmingham one.

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Sorry, if I had the choice I'd rather listen to Magnetic Activity or Maya Moon than Mahadeva

Haha, I first joined this forum in 2008 when there was more activity and lurked for years. There's not much activity these days but people here are so open-minded and awesome, plus obviously I love goa, so I've become fairly addicted to posting here this past week. I definitely am a happy mushroom. I was surprised to learn you had been into this music for just 1 1/2 years, but you have already done a lot more for the goa scene than I have

Thumbs up for Brummie rap! Grime music is very popular amongst my friends in South East London at the moment: It is English, but is full of South London colloquialisms and culture. I strongly suspect that Anu won't like it

Yeah, AP are the kings of using samples

What exactly do you mean by that?

Now I know where Oforia got his inspiration.

Hahaha prepare to be crucified! Nah, actually it seems that many people on Psynews aren't huge fans of AP. Including me. That said, my favourite track by them is Flying Into a Star. It's their most twisted MFG-like track, without too many sickening melodies

Yes, good point, the tech-psy sound also loosely comes under this banner. I love all these interrelated genres. I think my favourite tech-psy track is X-Dream's Peter's Hoover from the Irritant album. That Spirallianz track is also nice. It's been ages since I listened to The Delta, so thanks for reminding me to relisten to their discography.

To anyone who has not already read them, I would like to refer you to the user reviews of BotFB's latest album. This guy is still making music as edgy, unusual and as challenging as his oldschool goa.

Haha Oopie that is definitely the worst goa track ever. Cross-post to Lost Tracks and prepare to be surprised by the artist

Yes, most people are happy. China's growth has been 7-10% for the last 30 years, which means that the economy has doubled in size every 8 years or so. Improvements in quality of life have been so massive for most people that they don't feel resentment about the government at all. In fact, they identify their country with their government, and feel proud about both. I think that most revolutions actually happened after the government released control and gave some freedom to the people, and the Chinese government realise that. So they are very proactive in brutally shutting down potential protest groups. They are also very interested in citizen monitoring technologies. With the dawn of huge-scale surveillance it is hard to see how a revolution could ever get started. Just read about this: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186. The current premier Xi Jinping has been far more authoritarian than previous leaders. Yep, in fact the highest growing economies of all time, Singapore, China, South Korea etc have all had highly authoritarian, protectionist governments, which might be troubling for liberal democratic free-trade kind of people. When I was in Beijing I met loads of Russians who had moved there for a better life.

I lived in China for almost a year and speak a fair amount of Mandarin. One thing that struck me is how disconnected from politics the average Chinese person is. Sure, some of them express nationalistic fervour and lots of them are posting their unhappiness about the ruling to social media right now, but the vast majority remain apathetic. They don't really know anything or care about their own governance, and that's exactly how the ruling party wants it to be.

Okay, makes sense now It all depends on where you draw your boundaries though and what music history chooses to remember. Some would say that Kraftwerk invented techno. Good call, those are some of the best contemporary artists. Aerosis's track Contorsion is outstanding and Chromatone produces pure psytrance wizardry.

Also I think that Ofer Dikovsky anticipated this genre with tracks like Timelessness and Alien Pump. But he never gets the credit - I've never seen anybody draw the link between his brand of dark industrial goa and modern techno. Yes that track is 20 years old now (!!).

Glad you guys liked this genre too. Production qualities in these tracks are extremely high. For a few years now this sort of techno has been popular in Berlin and the more exclusive club nights in London. Nice track recommendation, I hadn't heard that one before. You should like this one then:

That's deep.