Psyt3k

Somewhat in order: Suntrip Cronomi DAT Schlabbaduerst (still a bit active ) and Chronicle of Mystery Records Sanaton Parvati Mighty Quinn Records Lost Theory

I only look forward to "live" acts when they will play a lot of unreleased or never heard before tracks and remixes. As no trance artist can truly perform everything live this will be the things that make me look forward to them more than to a dj set. That being said: - Derango: at any time!! Only heard them twice - Texas Faggott / Squaremeat / Mandalavandalz and all their side projects. This was total madness at Lost Theory last year! - Attoya - Traskel - Technical Hitch - Portamento - M-Run - Artha - Zirrex - Battle of The Future Buddhas and Ka Sol: Only heard them both twice, but it was just as surprising every time - and many more!

I let EAC disable the C2 error correction of my drive, so the program can do the correction itself. I guess this C2 error correction is the same sort as the ECC that you mention? So if that is disabled, the program can see for itself if it can rip it or not. If it encounters a read or sync error, it is mentioned immediately + in the log file. So I assume that once the program says "no errors occured" and "all tracks are accurately ripped", it will be 100% so? It also compairs the tracks you have ripped with the tracks in the Accuraterip database. Are you sure you were using EAC as I described here? Thanks about the Soundforge tip btw, I will test my tracks with that program too. Was using Foobar until now.

Another question: Does the read capacity of a drive go down after long usage? I am planning to rip my 800 cd's with 2 pc's. So each drive will have to read 400 cd's to rip, whilst being in "normal use" since 2 - 3 years. Can the read quality of a drive go down after long usage in a way that it would affect the rip? If it only affects speed, I wouldn't mind, I just don't want to realize my rips aren't 100% exact after having ripped hundreds of them...

I don't remember the first 3 tracks, but I do remember the first 3 cds: - VA - The Power of Goatrance: A red 3xCD that I bought in a typical multimedia shop to see what all the fuss was about. The third cd was a reissue of Psygone - Optimistique, but I didn't make it to that one. I thought CD1 and 2 were boring. - VA - Accidental Occidentalism: a random cd I listened to at a friend's house, didn't like it then - And of course this one too: I was 15 at the moment, young and naieve enough to like this sh*t

I've always found Trance music to be communication from artist to listener: "Hey, did you realize you can feel this?" Instruments being the codation of communication, the patterns which we can all perceive. Whereas many other genres like rock, rnb, hip hop etc are more like: "Hey, check out what I have made!" (That's why I don't like these genres as much )

Good question! What I see here (in Belgium) when it comes to Goatrance / Trance: There are people who totally love it and there are people who it does nothing to. I haven't really encountered people who hate it or find it irritating. But I do wonder why there is this difference, because to me it's the most human form of music... I think not all people are into "higher experiences", they don't want to be lifted off the ground and go into their own imagination. A lot of people have spent their lives trying to cope with difficult questions and have given up to look further. Some people come at ease when they don't have to think too much, when they can listen to the same artists they have known for +30 years etc. Also, I think that some people's mind / brain is just not set to receive these trance rhythms as much as others.

Looking up tracks to put into my ongoing mix whilst chatting with a friend online whilst ripping my cd's with EAC on my second computer whilst dancing around in my room and checking this forum for some useful information (taking a 20 sec break from all of this to come and post here - see yaaa)

I collect multimedia: - Videogames: I have every console since 8Bit era - Movies: especially Sci-Fi, Horror, Thinkers - Music: of my 800 cds, there are 750 electronic... mostly Psytrance, Trance, Techno, Breakbeat, Trip Hop, Downtempo, Ambient. + I have a lot of webreleases actually I see this as art... Electronic Arts besides this I also collect other art: especially geometric and psychedelic images

Since there are a lot of music collectors here: What do you collect? And how do you do it? How much do you spend on it, what else do you refrain from in order to keep collecting? Etc. Always nice to see what people collect... It's a basic human act too

I played a dj set with Yani from Suntrip last night and he played an unreleased track of them after my M-Run - Goat Man. What a great track that was!! I hope to see it released. Will check out this EP!

Wow, all very nicely done indeed! My favorite is your last one. It looks like a photo with a grainy filter. Very atmospheric.

In Belgium I'm even seeing people drawing a line between Nitzhonot and Nitzhogoa... For me Nitzhonot consists of these elements: a hard / powerful / "laser" kick and cheesy melodies. Cheesy meaning high pitched, easy to follow and overly happy. I really don't like this genre. One or a few of these tracks in a set at a party and I'll just run away... Except for Cyan, some Mystica and maybe some others. A lot of labels are starting to use the term Nitzhogoa and for me that stands for modern produced Goa with these Nitzho elements, but more subtle. A hard kick, but more eastern and complex melodies. But so far I only like Agneton (great to see him getting mentioned here this much! ) and some works by Filippe Santos (don't remember all the aliases, lol)

Yup, that's what I Always heard too. I heard this sample on a Thunderdome CD too, somewhere around '97.

I didn't know anything about the contest, but when I saw the title I suspected it was named after Koen / Rain / Sideffect. I knew him in our Belgian scene through chat and occasional talks on parties and I like it that this comp is named after him. I also have an old mix of him: "Rainmix". If anyone wants to hear it, contact me.

What kind of festival lineup is the best for you? Or: What music genres do you like to hear when? I notice a lot of topics about the music genres here, and who prefers what and when. So maybe we can start this topic too? I would like to see the different tastes and opinions Mine would be: 12h - 20h Newskool Goa / melodic Oldskool Goa 20h - 00h dark Oldskool Goa / dark Newskool Goa / Suomisaundi / Early Psytrance 00h - 05h Forest 05h - 08h experimental and psychedelic Oldskool Goa / more melodic Forest 08h - 12h pure Oldskool Goa But when it is a festival of multiple days, there can be some Dark or Fullon too. Yours?

Exactly!! Since Derango - Tumult and some other obvious Forest releases (that had the name "Forest" in it, or had a very distinctive sound and Foresty cover) I've began to experience it as a genre by itself. It's not just a subgenre of Dark Psy for me, but a different stream in the Psy scene. I don't have much favorite cd's, but more favorite artists. Most of the VA's only have 2 - 3 tracks I really like. Derango / Purosurpo / Hallucinogenic Horses Attoya Traskel Captain Kirk Taigan Sun(set) and of course the golden oldies: Ka Sol and BOTFB!

Also, No Possible Soundz Vol. 2 is the best!

I listened to almost all releases coming out on Psyshop, Saikosaunds and the label websites from 2008 - now. And I can say I only like 1/10 tracks or so. Mostly from the masters of it: Texas faggott, Mandalavandalz, Squaremeat, Salakavala, Egosentrifug / Huopotossu Mononen, Lightaman Jr... Once I drew a mindmap of all the artists and their collaborations and it all seems like on big orgy to me... I like a lot of their tracks, really love some of them. As long as it doesn't get funky or cheesy. All in all this is the genre I like the least tracks of, but when I like them, I really really do so

Indoor parties normally go like this (when it's not too hot): From 23h - 09h I'm at the dancefloor, or walking and talking around it. So I'm in constant motion for 10 hours. When the music is really really good I'm mostly dancing, sometimes +-3h with short breaks in between. At an outdoor festival there are times that I'm at the dancefloor from 17h - 12h the day after. Constantly hearing the basses, dancing or at least shaking my head to it. I think my longest trance dance experience must have been 10 - 12 hours. I ended up in a bubble. It felt as if the music came from 360° around me instead of coming out of the speakers and would last for eternity. If I would walk 100 meters away from the dancefloor it would still have sounded just as loud. And I was sober.

Derango + Battle of the Future Buddhas *insert crazy smiley here*

Aah hey Wim! Didn't know you were active here too! I can't go to LT this year, had to make some difficult choices for the summer @Shpongled: Be sure to let us know! We can give you some advice on where to stay.

I do the same things as you mentioned: Looking up information and looking for new music. I even have a folder of Word documents in which I store the most interesting info (about music, nature, technology...) and I have lists of all the best music tracks I know, all the cd's, movies and games I own, all the cd's, movies and games I want to check out... I can't understand how anyone can feel bored nowadays. I feel like a day is 24 hours too short! (Yes, I have a problem)

EAC is indeed Exact Audio Copy. Alright, that's a clear answer and actually also what I wanted to hear! Good to hear it coming from someone who worked for a company for recording cd/dvd software. For me it doesn't matter if it takes longer, or if it just doesn't work on severely damaged cd's. As long as the rip is perfect once it's done! Other experiences / advice still welcome!

Thanks for your reply! I don't know much about this stuff, but I think I sense a contradiction in your answer. As you said: "The drive can read the bits or it can't" and "you won't get a down-sampled or modified version". This means that the rip will either be correct or it will not be ripped at all. Right? So the quality of the ripped wave file with EAC should be correct than? While using EAC you have to turn off the C2 error correction of the drive itself, so the program can do it instead. So actually you don't need a more expensive drive in order to make perfect lossless rips with EAC? Any other advice welcome!