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  1. Lightforce
    New update of the PDF, you can download the new version. Here is the list of changes that have been made: - Many additions and changes in various style definitions
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    Thank you for your help but the vast majority of albums that you have posted do not include Ambient in composition but only Downtempo mixed with other genres. The Psybient is primarly Ambient. Certainly mixed with other genres, but it must first have an Ambient basis for it to be considered Psybient. And I can't add Downtempo in styles because it is a separate genre that is not only dedicated to psychedelia
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    What the f... Ok, first of all, thank you for the extra effort that you put to give me a very structured and detailed response. I want to tell you that it is very appreciable. Really Oh, and by the way, you can re-download pdf because I was perceived that the image of the page of the definition of Full-On covered the text in the French version. I corrected this problem. Okay, so now, things turn serious: Some styles that you spoke as “morning” and “minimal” are not styles but just a kind of "colors" of Psychedelic Trance. Let me explain: the morning, for example, can be an additional term used to describe styles of Psychedelic Trance often with a perky melody, suitable for morning, hence its name. This color is applicable to many styles: in this case Psytrance, Full-On, Goa Trance, Suomisaundi,...etc. Regarding “minimal”, it’s the same: an artist can have a strong minimal tendency in his compositions. In this, these two "colors" do not deserve, in my view, to appear as a style. That would only complicate excessively. For Tech Trance: it's just a style, like Downtempo, which can not be related to Psychedelic Trance since all artists in this style does not strive to include any forms of psychedelia that would be more or less related to Psychedelic Trance. Then you told me about EBM, oriental folk music origins, synergy between artists and their music,...etc. In short, the entire background that accompanies the Psychedelic Trance. You must know that this pdf has not been realized in order to serve as a comprehensive encyclopedia of everything that revolves around the Psychedelic Trance. He only intended to help and guide people, and classify accurately, but reasonably, the different styles that compose it. I know it is synthetic but that is the goal. Avoid being scattered in every corner and in passing avoid losing the people who read this pdf and say to themselves "I wonder if I'm throwing myself in there, it seems overly complicated to me ...". Regarding Goa and Nitzhonot : I will correct many details in their definition. Regarding Psycore: it is born from Dark Trance (looks like slogan of a new Lord of the Rings ), not from Hi-Tech, and given its aesthetic, it seems more logical to me to leave it in the page dedicated to Dark Trance. Regarding all others : You should know one thing, the more you try to frame a style, the more you risk to leave behind many artists that will not correspond to definitions increasingly precise and selective. Do not forget that music is art. And art is not rational, he needs freedom to express itself. A definition is based on objective criteria where art is subjective. Here is the trick. I think the best is not to excessively classify. So I do not intend to include many sub-sub-styles that you mentioned as “bass music”, “swamp”, etc... in the sense that they are already numerous component of a style which include them and which allows better understanding of them (in this case, "Psybient"). Too many complications for not much in the end. But many of your recommendations were helpful to me. I will make some changes. I will update the documents as soon as it will be ready
  4. Lightforce
    Of course, here are other links => English version (OUTDATED) => French version (OUTDATED)
  5. Lightforce
    For me, "Goa Ambient" correspond to a Psybient strongly influenced by Goa Trance like "Code Eternity" album by Asura or a lot of Altar Records albums that are also often referred as "Deep Trance" more than "Psybient". Yes, it's true but I think that Ultimae Records is a label gathering artists with such diversity in their creations that it is almost enough on its own. But I would not be against recommendations if you have
  6. Lightforce
    All right, Agneton, I've updated the PDF about the definition of Nitzhonot
  7. Lightforce
    Yes, these videos have clearly helped me too. However I have taken a slightly different direction such as the grouping of categories such as "Experimental" and "Uncategorized" simply in "Experimental"
  8. Lightforce
    Thank you And ok, it is noted, I'll edit this when I have time
  9. Lightforce
    Hi everybody Since I discovered Psychedelic Trance, there are approximately 1-2 years I have never ceased to observe what I had observed in the Hardcore scene, Industrial, Rock,...etc : there are so many styles and sub-styles that it becomes a mess to find a way and we sometimes end (or even often) to nonsensical debates about how we will appoint or not appoint, define or not define, this or that music or this or that style. So I decided there are now more than a year to create a doc in PDF form gathering all styles of Psychedelic Trance and their characteristics without making pies of texts to infinity and beyond. http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/2901243725316.jpg It will be a little more than a year (or almost, must take breaks anyway ) to skim all anglophone and francophone forums, searching the most representative artists of every style, and recovering some information and definitions stuffed with spelling mistakes on Wikipedia, clumsy repetitions, discount translations all straight out of the English version of Wikipedia passed under Google Translate, and other calamities, and to correct then to complement them. Obviously, if you find an ugly lack of agreement/spelling well hidden in the bushes, an incomplete definition, or one of your prefered style/artist thatsmasheseverythingbutreallyeverything that is not referenced, feel free to sh*t in my face please let me know, it will be corrected in the shortest possible time if need there. Last update of the PDF: 03.10.2019 at 11:56 p.m. (Paris time) Here is the link for the English version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hr2pdwhonek82o/Psytrance (EN).pdf?dl=0 Here is the link for the (original) French version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q84tbn46xrmmgji/Psytrance.pdf?dl=0 /!\ The Dropbox online reader doesn't support external and internal links in pdf files anymore, so you must download it and open it with a pdf reader if you want the links to work /!\ Here is the original (French) post on the French forum "trancegoa.org" : https://www.trancegoa.org/forum/trance/40857_mise-a-jour-n50-la-trance-psychedelique-dans-son-integralite Thank you for your attention
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