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Indian Djent ! Their name makes me laugh ahah
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The Psychedelic Trance, in its entirety
Lightforce replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
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I changed the home page, tell me if something bothers you- 349 replies
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I'm stupid as f*ck. I forgot that the "police" word in french is translated "font" in english. Let's say I was tired The "half-moon" is an opacity symbol and it's for opacity of dark backgrounds behind content (titles, paragraphs,...etc). If you feel uncomfortable to read the texts because the transparency of the dark background isn't low enough you can click on this half-moon to lower the transparency to be only 10% instead of 20%. And the "neogoa" symbol is a night mode that will place a dark background with 20% of transparency behind content but in front of the whole image backgrounds to reduce the eyestrain due to too bright/light colors if you're on the website in a dark room. Note that you can combine all these modifiers if you want.- 349 replies
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Lightforce replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
I developped some features for the website for those who feel uncomfortable with some visual elements : - a text aligner to left - a font changer - an opacity of backgrounds behind content changer I placed all of them with the night mode in the lower right corner of the page- 349 replies
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Lightforce replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
(This post will be updated on each changement) List of things done/to do: "Definitions" pages: done "F.A.Q." pages: done "Bonus" pages: in progress "Origins" pages: to do french translations: to do responsive web design: to do- 349 replies
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Lightforce replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
Thanks Are you talking about titles or "regular" text ? Because only titles has been sometimes capitalised. The font used for paragraphs isn't a capitalised font.- 349 replies
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Lightforce replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
I understand your point on including tracks in the website but I'm not in the head of each producers so I wouldn't take the risk to put their tracks in my website. And for YT links I think it's not a good idea because YT links can be dead if someone remove the video, if the channel is removed or if there's country restrictions. So it will force me to check regularly if links are dead and it can happen that I run out of time At least, with Discogs/Bandcamp links I'm almost sure links won't be deprecated.- 349 replies
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Lightforce replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
Thanks I can't put tracks in my server as it doesn't belong to me and it's illegal, even if I use free tracks. But each sub-style page is a slide, so you have arrows right and left that lead you to the albums example and they're clickable, so it will redirect you to the album you clicked on.- 349 replies
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I almost finished the definitions pages but I still have a lot of pages to do and I'm far to have finished. I implemented a night mode in addition and a menu (not functional yet) to allow you to naviguate in the different parts. The french version isn't started yet, only the english version. I post here a link to the website in its current development. The menu links are desactivated for instance because the pages linked to it are not ready yet. Tell me what you think about its current features and design. If you have any further recommendations don't hesitate. The responsive isn't done yet so, for now, I strongly recommend you to go on it only if you have a screen resolution of 1920x1080 at least or higher. The website is named "The Psychedelic Trance encyclopedia". Here is the link : https://psychedelic-trance-encyclopedia.com/- 349 replies
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You're right, I wanted to be synthetic but you're right it needs some more shades about Schlabbaduerst and Forest origins. However, Schlabbaduerst is not the only one that produced industrial influenced Forest, check Chronicle Of Mystery Records. Indeed "main" seems a bit clumsy. What about that ? There is two main distinguishable trends of Forest: the first one, born in the late 90’s and then linked to Schlabbaduerst Rekkords in the early 2000s, mainly consists in a blend of Goa and Psytrance or Darkpsy with often heavy Industrial Music influences and a more chaotic or experimental aesthetic while the second one, born in 2003, stemmed almost exclusively from Darkpsy. Note that the first one is uncommon contrary to the second one.- 349 replies
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Update of the PDF, you can download the new version. Here is the list of changes that have been made: - Forest definition and albums update - Some albums replacements in Dark Psytrance, Psy Tech and Goa Trance sections and pages of the "Bonus" section- 349 replies
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UX is definitely the new Juno Reactor ! It's already a lengendary album for me !
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Lightforce replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
I included unRevealed by Yudhisthira in the four examples of Forest for the next update.- 349 replies
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@Ormion Finally I made some more changes to the Forest definition, tell me what you think about this : “Forest” is a Psychedelic Trance style mainly born from Dark Psytrance, however this one can sometimes get rid of high BPMs and black ambiances from Darkpsy. The Schlabbaduerst Rekkords label is considered as the pioneer of this style. Technically, the Forest is characterized by a more pronounced resonance as well as more organic sonorities than in Darkpsy (in order to accentuate the “deep forest” effect) and “swarming/teeming” effects reminding ambient noises of fauna and flora. Just as Dark, chants are very rare, they are more willingly replaced by ambient noises. There is two main trends of Forest: the first one, born in the late 90’s and linked to Schlabbaduerst Rekkords, mainly consists in a blend of Goa and Psytrance or Darkpsy with often heavy Industrial Music influences and a more chaotic or experimental aesthetic while the second one, born in 2003, stemmed almost exclusively from Darkpsy. Note that the first one is uncommon contrary to the second one. This style has mainly emerged in Denmark and in a minority in other nordic countries such as Finland, Norway or Sweden. Its ambiance can greatly vary from artist to another one, some turning toward dark ambiences (majority), others will prefer exalting and joyful ambiences (minority). Another form of Forest named “Swamp” also exists, born from the merger of this latter and Downtempo. It is characterized by a more experimental side than “traditional” Forest and a slower tempo, similar to Downtempo. Like Natural Trance, this form of Forest remains rarely produced. Representative labels: Parvati / Forestdelic / Sanaton / Chronicle Of Mystery- 349 replies
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I will answer you in French (as you are French) to be sure to express myself correctly and put the English version aside so that others can understand. Je pense qu'au contraire il faut inclure les albums un peu borderline et pas seulement les typiques et purs du genre car du coup ça permet de se faire une idée plus ou moins approximative des délimitations du genre. Donc je préfère laisser KOB et d'autre en plus dans les albums supplémentaires. De plus Identity Mash est Forest à 100%. Cet album de KOB est un album principalement Forest Goa ce qui explique que certains puissent être déstabilisés car ils ne sont pas habitués à entendre ce type de son en version Forest. Et sinon oui, Oforia n'est pas pure Old School Goa mais la transition avec la Old School Psytrance peut être incluse dans la catégorie Goa. C'est un parti pris, on peut ne pas être d'accord mais je pense que ça ne pose pas de problème de cohérence. Justement, je pense que tout ça permettra aux débutants de se former l'oreille comme il faut et ça ne les enfermera pas dans un son typique qui fera qu'ils seront déstabilisés et ne sauront pas comment interpréter les raretés dès qu'elles sortiront un peu des sentiers battus. Et merci pour ton soutient (Ah et je répondrais pas à Psychedelic Superbeast sur ses dernières interventions car ça sent soit le provocateur, soit le gars qui a rien compris et qui a pas pris le temps de lire le pdf, à plein nez. D'ailleurs Ormion lui a pas répondu après ses "ouai mais la Forest scandinave c'est de la merde parce que c'est moche donc en s'en fou". Pour moi un mec qui ramène un truc comme ça dans un échange sérieux sur un topic où on essaie de faire des choses utiles pour beaucoup de monde se disqualifie de factio de toute réponses de ma part tant qu'il tient ce genre de discours.) English version : I think that on the contrary it's necessary to include the albums a little borderline and not only the typical and pure of the kind because suddenly it makes it possible to get an approximate idea of the delimitations of the genre. So I prefer to leave KOB and others in additional albums. Plus Identity Mash is Forest at 100%. This album of KOB is an album mainly Forest Goa which explains that some can be destabilized because they are not accustomed to hear this type of sound in Forest version. And also, Oforia is not pure Old Goa School but the transition with the Old School Psytrance can be included in the Goa category. It's a bias, we may not agree, but I think it doesn't pose a problem of consistency. Precisely, I think that all of this will allow the beginners to train their ear as it's necessary and it will not enclose them in a typical sound which will destabilize them as soon as they will not know how to interpret the rarities as soon as they leave a little off the beaten track.- 349 replies
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When I started creating the "Origins and pioneers" page for Forest, Ormion told me : But I don't know what albums or productions out in 2003 he was thinking about when he was talking about modern Forest (the Darkpsy-ish one I guess). Because the oldest modern Forest productions I know dates back to 2005 and it's Derango - Tumult and a compilation named "Boldly Audio" but maybe I'm wrong.- 349 replies
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Yay ! Here we go again ! We're back together to improve this pdf, let's do this Ok, I will mention the fact that it's very rare in the definition. I don't agree with that. As I explained earlier there's a psycore roughness and "unclean" aesthetic at some moments in Psykovsky's style that make me categorize it in Psycore rather than Hi-Tech. There's a mistake from me here. Because I wrote in french version something like "The "Forest" is a Psychedelic Trance style mainly born from Dark Psytrance" but it seems like I forgot the "mainly" in the english version. It will be corrected. And I already know all of that about the beginning of Forest that has its roots in Old School Goa with BOTFB and Ka-Sol...etc as I already explained it in the "Origins and pioneers" section of the pdf and that was thanks to you btw Well...this point is a bit of a struggle for me because I saw a certain amount of people saying the exact opposite by linking "Psygressive" to Zenonesque. I've to admit that I don't know what to do anymore on this point. This album will go in the Psy Tech section. Listen to these ones and tell me that's not Forest. If that's not Forest I go running naked while eating my hat for 30 minutes in the street. It's going to make headlines of newspapers at the international. And I don't want that and you even less. I don't think creating a new subgenre for this is worth. I think it's more coherent to keep it in Psybient section as it already is. Thank you- 349 replies
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Alright, I had some doubts about the Psy Tech side but you're right, many old school Psy Tech had this heavy industrial easthetic too so I guess it's place is in Psy Tech section after all. I thought there was something like that, that's why I don't think adding the term is judicious. Nonetheless Psykovsky has the roughness of Psycore that makes me think that it should be left in Psycore.- 349 replies
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Well, "neurotrance" is not one of the terms I use and I don't know if it exists as an official sub-style per see but I just saw it used in some occasions to designate this kind of "undark" psytrance (like "unblack metal" ). Yes I talk about this in the first page of the pdf and it explain why some people (often the oldest ones) are still using this term to designate the whole music I relistened the whole album and, my bad, you're right : the harsh parts of tracks are closer to industrial music rather than Darkpsy. There is a misunderstanding, I never classified styles according to their atmosphere, they are classified according to their structure, sonoritites, effects,...etc Anyway thank you for that, I will rectify the presence of "Four Carry Nuts" in the Darkpsy section to move it probably in the "Experimental" one, considering its hybrid aesthetic.- 349 replies
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Thanks for your support In fact it's a blend of Goa, Darkpsy, Full-On and Industrial. So I think it has partially its place in the Darkpsy section. It's a blend between Psycore and something that some called "neurotrance" This corresponds to the "Pre-Psytrance" described in "Origins and Pioneers". This moment when Old School Goa is beginning a transformation toward Psytrance by including more effects and more "twisted/darkish" sound, as you told it, than in regular Old school Goa. But it's not a style on it's own. It's just Old School Goa before it's definitive transformation into (old school) Psytrance. I would let the concerned albums in the Goa section, just as you wouldn't create a sub-style name for 90's "Pre-Forest" because it's just Old School Goa, you get me? Btw I never saw the "Goadelic Trance" term used before, it's not an official term I guess (but maybe I'm wrong) and "Psychedelic Trance" is already used to refer to all Goa Trance and Psytrance music so if we use it to designate the "Pre-psytrance" style what is left to designate all styles? I can see what you mean but you can't make a clean slate of official terms to replace their meaning or forget them in favor of terms that are personal or specific to a small group of people as we see many in the reddit psytrance forums that does not seem to have understood correctly or to take into account what already exists If you have further questions or remarks don't hesitate- 349 replies
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Hi everyone, I'm currently working on turning the pdf into a website. The coding could take some time but all of this is underway. I don't know how long it will take but I intend to go all the way. The pdf will of course be updated regularly each time the website will be updated and the pdf will act as a downloadable version of the website in addition to being a stand alone as you currently know it. I'll keep you informed about all of this- 349 replies
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I'm seriously impressed by this group. Can't stop listening this album these last days ! Group : Haken Album : Vector Style : Progressive Metal