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I listened to the tracks uploaded to discogs. Yes, they are very good, exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks a ton! Actually it may be that the last track doesn't quite fit the rest of them, it's more intense and more melodic. I agree that these tracks may be covered by "full-on" in broad sence, but to me they sound sufficiently different both from Astrix/Ananda Shake kind of full-on and the Nano stuff and more or less similar between each other in the overall feel.

My understanding is that it is something similar to medodic full-on (Digicult/Epherdix style), with BPMs around 143-145, less emphasis on melodies (though not completely devoid of proper melodic content) and generally sounding more trippy though focused on lighter, atmospheric tones as opposed to night full-on and other harsher/darker kinds of psy. Is this definition of "morning psytrance" correct and what artists fitting the above description could you recommend? In other words, are these tracks "morning psytrance" or something else and where should I be looking for similar tracks?

I thought that Astral Projection's take on Into The Heartland is going to be the worst U-Recken remix ever. But Spirit Architect take the cake. They completely fucked up the flow of the original track, raped the melodies and added nothing that would make sense. Oh wait, they made the bassline fatter! If you ask me, that's a real problem, people are totally obsessed with production quality (aka FAT BASSLINES!!!) and forget about what actually makes psytrance worthwhile and enjoyable experience.

Hell, I was trying to figure out why Psynews looks wrong.

I think it would make sence just to rename Psynews as Goa Olds. Most regular posters here seem to be not interested in anything but mid-90's goa anyway

Nice melodic goa, love it.

Two years later and I can say that Flying Objects and especially Little Universe (what a track, really!) are among my favourite E-Clip works. I've heard them on some compilations and immediately loved. Then I was quite surprized to learn that both these tracks are from "Into The Void" and I must have heard them before. I guess, they are just "dissolved" in the very homogenous flow of the album.

IMO it is. The collabs with Mickey Noise and Zen Mechanics sort of save it - at least they make the album not a totally worthless experience, but they are of "good but not great" kind and the rest of the album is just a bunch of beats and sounds put together without any idea or inspiration. Maybe it's good for the dancefloor but does nothing for home listening. Shuma raised the bar very high but after Shuma the best tracks made by E-Clip were collabs. TBH, it seems that he had a blast when making Shuma but after that the inspiration was gone and now the dude has the gear and the skills but needs someone else to bring life and soul into the tracks.

Thanks a ton! I've heard this sample in countless tracks but never know where it comes from.

The first psytrance track I've ever heard. Still very good after all these years

Well, two years later .... It seems that it was a bad idea to write such a long review because apparently noone actually read it (and my English leaves a lot to be desired). In short: the best psytrance album since Aquatic Serenade Go get it asap.

Ok, I believe I'm drunk enough to post whatever garbage in whatever thread I feel like

Oh, great. I think Psynews should know about this masterpiece. It's a remix for the most improtant Russian song about Gagarin, conquering of space and shit. I had this track not later than 2005 on a pirate tape, so it must be 2005 or earlier. "What we dream about at night? That's not the hum of the cosmodrome or this ice-cold deep blue. We dream about the grass near our homes. That green grass".

And well, anyone who posted in this thread is no more entitled to call fullon cheesy crap.

Padmapani, when i clicked your link i already knew what im going to see. But i clicked your link anyway for the fvck sake.

A pan psychic это те же чуваки, которые ремикснули траву в иллюминаторе?

Listened to the samples, though I pretty much could do without it. I know their music and it doesn't change. Kind of psytrance equivalent to Motorhead, "fvck it all and go dance". 100% music for dancefloors but not what I'd like to listen to at home. Anyway, very groovy and top notch production.

Not sure it fits here but I'm not sure it would fit anywhere. Anyway I think it's, well ... interesting

Edgy and minimalistic, as you say. Cool groove, very hyponotic. Personally I'm not a fan of Indian chants in psytrance but they fit here well. I like triplet part and the goaish melodies near the end. The whole thing is a bit too minimal to my taste but it's just me, the track sounds very mature overall.

Oops When you put something in the first sentence, be sure no one will be reading this I have no experience with analogue stuff, let alone modular, but I see your point. The sound of my Virus, which is digital to the bone but still sounds very alive, musical and fat, may be faked to an extent by plugins but it requires some work while Virus has it by default. The problem with plugins and DAWs in general is that they allow way to much flexibility and making them sound bad is often easier than making them sound good. BTW, i'm not a big fan of Filteria's sound, he is totally opposite to "clean and precise ITB sound" but not in a good way imo.

The guy himself said: " I use the computer instead of going all old school on it. I know folks who go this way, and YES, the sound of analogue is awesome, theres a magic there, but thats not to say the digital sound is worse or anything, its not but it is different, and that took me a while to get used to when I came back to writing again, but its interesting again. I love the environment, or lack of one, in the DAW and using software. I thought about going modular at one point, and still have a hankering after it, but I think it would only be really useful for me if I was to get some kind of live thing going on, and at this point Im just happy to write and explore the options available Maybe I will go modular at some point, Ive certainly enjoyed using other peoples and I sometimes miss analogue synths, but theres so much scope to do all that they used to and more now, and the sound of the new generation of software is extremely good now." There are some virtual synths exploiting the same concepts as hardware modular stuff and they sound extremelly good, like U-He Bazille and Softube Modular. I believe analogue modelling is current software really nails it and "more organic sound" is just a matter how you program the synths in your DAW.

I have mixed feelings of this. Very good clean production and great sound design (love these plastic acids) but most tracks sound somehow too linear and predictable. Also while it is sufficiently melodic most melodies are not my cup of tea. I listened to one of their old full-on albums the other day, don't exactly remember which one, and I liked it much more. Still better than the average.

I know this Ra album and like it, it is indeed something different from average newschool goa and much closer to what I'm looking for in goa trance. But Ra (Dimension 5) were the part of the first wave of goa trance in 90's (longest lifespan on the scene?). I also like some tracks by Mindsphere, especially from his latest uptempo album. This "melody after a melody after a melody" approach may work if the melodies are good, though I agree that it becomes tiresome when you have several such tracks in a row (and someone should tell him that the notes may be longer than 16th). FIlteria is , well... not for me. He does have nice melodies and great sounds here and there but for me the whole thing is ruined by hectic arrangements and very raw mixing. It is more like punk rock than trance. Actually i find the aesthetics of most modern goa releases closer to death or black metal than to Astral Projection. Among the new guys Artifact 303 and Psy-H Project are great, Centavra Project is a nice surprise. Some good tracks by Crossing Mind (though his mixing approach takes time to get used to), Scarma, Liquid Flow. All in all for me this track is the pinnacle of modern goa, arguably as good as People Can Fly

Sure. At least you will no more worry about dusty CDs EDIT: Just in case, it was a lame joke and not a real advice