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Trold, Braincell? Good stuff but not quite my thing

I think' it's borderline, TBH. First, this track would be better without these speech samples. As for the melody itself - well, it is not annoying but not exactly awesome either - to happy and too simplistic.

I should have been more specific in my question I don't doubt that there is good psy without any melodic content - I don't like such tracks but I totally understand why other people may enjoy them. I'm asking, well, whether you think that a melody as such is an "admissible" component of psytrance or it ruins the psychedelic vibe for you or is unwanted for some other reasons. I'm talking about overt, in your face melodies (like e.g., some U-recken), not about subtle arpeggiated patterns sitting in the background of a track or something like this

I think I've checked most (if not all) of their releases and have many of them in my playlist. Dacru was my gateway from trance to psy. But I don't like the direction they are taking now. Well, seems that most people here love both melodic and non-melodic psy - unlike me, you, guys have much more music you can enjoy My comfort zone is too narrow, I don't like non-melodic psy at all (forest, darkpsy, UK) but also can't stand this tasteless Israeli full-on, which what I usually get when searching for melodic psy.

Goa is obivously melodic, but in modern psy a melody seems to be an optional element and anynthing with memorable, catchy melodies is often called cheesy. But I usually prefer melodic stuff and I have soft spot for "trancy" melodies, like early Protoculture, Ephedrix or Digicult, neither too happy (like Electrosun and similar) nor too dark. What do you think about melodies in psytrance? Do you like melodic psy or prefer music mostly made of effects and soundscapes?

Would be a fine cover for something darkpsy

Thanks! Glad that you enjoyed it!

If some people who appear on TV every day were eating mushrooms and listening to Terence McKenna instead of doing what they do many social issues would be effectively tackled

It's a very new genre, we are the originators of it Psytrance definitely needs more new subgenres!

Thanks!

Just found this weird sh!t on my hard drive. Dark and acidic but somehow melodious. Mixing is far from perfect but I like it as it is

Committee against torture strongly disapproves such an extreme form of punishment

Digicult - The Lucid Nation U-Recken - Aquatic Serenade Ephedrix - Expander Aquila - Gain Control This is what got me hooked onto psy. And these are the albums I enjoy from the first to the last track, which is pretty rare.

Del, nevermind

Actually, a crossover between goa and psytrance/full-on looks like a good idea Psytrance sound design (squelches, FM leads, other weird sounding stuff) and the energy of kbbb bassline plus goa melodics could make killer combinations, I wonder why there are so few tracks based on it.

It is actually good, if we are talking about prog or full-on, 95% of it is mediocre to piss-poor (but the rest 5% is as awesome as it gets, actually I believe that the golden era of psytrance has just began because today we have really amazing possibilities for production and sound-design which weren't available or at least were prohibitively expensive 5 years before). Yesterday I gave a spin to Trust in Trance, and I was actually surpruised how many mediocre tracks it contains. Yes, there are Kabbalah, People Can Fly, Enlightened Evolution, but most other tracks are boring and simplistic. Mindsphere's Mintal Triplex/Presence released this year is much more interesting and diverse album. I understand that if there weren't Trust in Trance there was no Presence, but still, goa has improved a lot (if we judge it accoridng to the best releases).

Try this http://reaperblog.net/2015/07/eyssina-is-a-new-cubase-inspired-theme-for-reaper/

There are awesome cheap DAWs, like Reaper and Mulab. In fact you may use an evaluation license of Reaper untill you have 60 bucks to buy it

Did you ever heard about Sturgeon's law? Imo, the ratio of great releases to mediocre crap stays more or less the same throughout the whole history of psy/goa trance but the great tracks become classic while the the crap is being forgotten, therefore we may think that old goa was all killer stuff unlike today. Maybe today we just have more of everything because indeed the tools needed to make pro-quality music are more easily accessible (plugins are cheap or free, yeah, but still, you need at least a powerful machine and decent monitoring) and running a digital label is probably much less expensive than pressing real vinyls or CDs - thus we have more crap, but also more great stuff.

I think I saw this test at KVR and Gearslutz, I've even reposted it at some other audio forum where most people also picked Diva as hardware Yeah, the stock presets in Diva are mostly targeted at progressive rock and like that, but it is really easy to make goa-like synth lines with these filters. Also Diva has a module emulating Jp80x0 supersaw oscillator. Here is a two minute track I've made just for fun, all Diva except for the drums, kinda-sorta oldschool goa. Love these resonances

Thanks for the replies! Well, seems that developing my own style by doing whatever I want makes the most sense

I've just stumbled upon a track which perfectly fits my original requirements, here it is And this whole album (Presence) is really amazing.

Hell, I really hoped to be the first who ever came up with such a smart reply!

Well, here it is. The last 3 uptempo entries (as well as most of the downtempo section) is more like "I've listened to it once or twice and iirc it doesn't suck" than "best of the best", though. Uptempo: 1: U-Recken - Flames of Equilibrium (Dacru Records) 2: Digicult - Soul Samadhi (Dacru Records) 3: Tropical Bleyage - Constant Present (Dacru Records) 4: Tegma - Greek Myths (Tribal Vision Records) 5: Journey Into The Sound - Transdimensional Vision (Neogoa Records) 6: Nikky S - Frequency of Space (Alchemy Records) 7. Pulsar - Rebirth of the Sun (Goa Records) 8: Ilai - Mechanical Dancers (Iono Music) 9: Hypnocoustics - Transformational Structures (Liquid Records) 10: Terrafractyl - Imaginings and Fabrications (Kinematic Records) Downtempo: 1: Green Beats - The Moon Antidote (Nutek Chill Records) 2: VA - Fall (Altar Records) 3. VA - Dimensions Reflections (Mystic Sound Records) 4: Infected Mushroom - Converting Vegetarians II (Dim Mak Records) 5: VA - Cosmopolite Dreams (Sting Records) 6: VA - Original Knowledge (Mystic Sound Records) 7: StereOMantra - Synesthesia (self-released) 8: Stefan Torto - The Forbidden Journey (Cosmicleaf Records) 9: E-Mantra - Raining Lights (Altar Records) 10: Dhamika - Energy Flow (Altar Records)

Reading this thread. How many people answered this way before me?