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Love it! At the first listen two tracks stood out - Photosynthesis (dreamy, floaty, beautiful) and Alinside (also beatuful and dreamy bit more deep and trippy). Invetable Delusion is also great and memorable track, this dramatic melody in the second half reminds me of some corny club tarnce tunes a bit, but it is really well produced and arranged. As a whole, the album feels pretty diverse (more diverse than other newschool goa releases I came across and this is good) but still consistent.

Yeah, the remix is what I liked the most, it has more depth and dimension. The original tracks have nice flow but are a bit empty, as Celaripo said. I'm a casual goa listener, more into morning full-on and prog, so I don't have any opinion whether this is "the essence of goa", but if I had to imagine the most typical goa track, it would be like this - unison leads with repetitive patterns in Phrygian mode and bubbling resonant acid lines. Still, I liked the overall mood and the leads are pretty captivating but the whole thing is too predictable.

Thanks! That matters a lot Well, probably I'm just overthinking it.

Just checked it out. Not bad. Not exactly stunning but not bad at all. A bit too formulaic like most of the neogoa tracks but I love these supersaws and these 303s. Should check out more their stuff

Nice sounds in the second demo! When you will release the bank? I have Diversion, so I may be interested. How much will it cost?

Thanks for your input! Indeed the question seems a bit weird so it is good to know that I'm not the only one bothered about things like this Actually it may be that my preferred kind of psytrance is considered cheesy and dated by many, while "the real psy" actually doesn't inspire me much, that's why I don't feel 100% comfortable with what I'm doing (aside from the fact that my productions skills still are not that awesome despite I've made some progress in the last year). Well, screw that, at the end of the day I'm the only one who actually cares about my music

I'm a typical bedroom producer with a couple of releases here and there and no really ambitious plans, doing music mostly for my own pleasure but I still want my musical output to be interesting to someone else besides myself, which most probably requires having a recognizable style. I used to be mostly concerned about learning the technical side of things, mixing, sound-design etc, while as regards the musical content I am pretty disorganised - like, when I stumble upon a great track made by someone else, be it full-on, or psyprog, or goa, I think "whoa, that's cool, I must try doing something like that". That's good for learning different techniques but probably not so good for developing your own artistic language. On the other hand, ideas like "from now on I'll be doing only 134-137 bpm prog with these and these sounds and forget about anything else untill I become really good at this kind of prog" sound kinda depressing for me - but this seems to be the way most known producers are doing their things, Protonica always sounds like Protonica, Electric Universe allways sounds like Electric Universe. Digicult always sounds like Digicult etc. So what do you think? What's your own experience?

Good to know I know that Europeans look at gender equality issues differently than we do here, so talking gender differences at an inernational forum may be like stepping on thin ice for me. Well, if you ask, my uneducated guess is that psytrance was originally meant to be music for "exploratory minds", like "let's see what we can do with these synths and how our brains will interact with this". This probably apepals to male mindset more, because evolutionary role of man was "the exporer" and evolutionary role of woman was "the house keeper" (hope this doesn't sound sexist ) Then psytrance became a subculture, there are festivals, events and all that, this may appeal to both sexes. But as regards the music itself, I believe it is mostly the male thing because pytrance is less about emotions and more about the exproration of sounds. Maybe there are many girls on psy events, dunno, I'm not a big party guy myself, but if we look into the producers demographics, there are hundreds of male psy producers, but I can name only three currently active female psy acts.

Sorry if my post was offensive, i didn't want it. I'm living in a completely different cultural background and things that sound natural for me and people around me may be offensive for people living in EU.

Statistically, women are much less likely to love psytrance. Even if they do, they don't take it as seriously as we do. I have some completely uneducated guesses why it may be like that, but I'm not sure if it's worth a discussion.

Thins is what 3osc looks like now? Meh, the oldschool look is much better

Well, today I've heard a really well produced goa track made in Causic, that's a small Android app. But I won't trade my Virus for a tablet with Caustic anyway

Not quite. The character of a synth matters a lot.

The video is funny as hell. And actually the music in the video is produced much better than many "serious" psytrance tracks.

Thanks, guys, some nice tracks here. Not quite what I expected to hear, but still interesting. "Ra - Other Self" is what I liked the most from here

Quite an old thread, things must have changed since then. But well, what pisses me off in the today's psy, is the thing that happened to the melodies. Basically there are two kinds of approaches, like "melodies are for pussies, we are the real men, we make FM noises and squelchy arpeggios only" or "this track needs a melody, lest put some generic natural minor chord progression into it and call it a day". People are forgetting that psytrance is still music and melody is one of the most essential elements of any music. I'm not sayng that anything needs "neoclassical" shredding like in some Infected Mushroom tracks, sometimes two chords work wonders if they are the right two chords, but still non-formulaic apporach to a melody is one of the things that separates great tracks from mediocre ones.

Thanks, nice one!

Please recommend me something to listen to - tracks, albums, compilations. I don't know much about goa besides the classic Astral Projection albums. I checked out some stuff highly rated in the Reviews section, but it was mostly something dark, acidic, chaotic and not very melodious. Basically I need tracks like these Or this one, it starts dark but then progresses into an awesome melody So, please, post the most beautiful, melodic, otherworldly goa you know about, no acidic face-melting monsters

Nice selection of tracks, thanks for sharing

Downloaded the wav, will listen to it on my monitors later, but on small speakers the kick and the bass sound thin and powerless, this may be a sign of either lacking or unbalanced low end.

I know that Amen is kinda polarizing among AP fans, but I make no difference between it and earlier AP albums. Slightly different approach, but same talent, same aesthetics, same (or better) skills. Sticks and Stones is incredible. It doesn't have a prominent melody, like People Can Fly or Kabbalah, but the groove creates very strong subliminal tension (hard to explain it by words especially given my mediocre English) and this resonant arpegio which comes in at 4:50 literally sends shivers down to my spine.

Cheesy, yeah, but good kind of cheese. This one, love the synths from 4:43 and this one is really great prog, much better than most things labelled as "psy prog" today

Love your mixes! Just the kind of prog I was looking for, thanks for sharing them. Followed you on SC.

This or Real Nitemare? I liked this more, it has more interesting melodic lines and the mix is better balanced, Nitemare sounds more like a rough draft ATM.

Just in case my post was not clear, access virus is a hardware synth, you don't need a computer at all to use it. This dude sequences it from his laptop, but you may use a hardware sequencer or play live (there are keyboard versions). U-he Diva is software, but a really good one, people say it sounds like analog gear.