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Entry #61 My latest addition to the React catalogue. One of the defining Trance anthems (I hate that word) which still sounds interesting today. 2 singles that you bought separately....but you could combine together.....with the radio edit appearing in both of them (for chart purposes I guess). The 90's Excellent, excellent addition to my collection. Trance could actually put you into trance back then.

Entry #60 The last cds of Lemon magazine. An era comes to end (soon to be followed by another one, Freeze magazine :)). And the last cd offered was actually an album by Spacegoblins. Half of it is mediocre, slightly dark Psychedelic Trance tracks and the other half more goaish sounds (and slightly better). If this was a proper release probably you wouldn't care much to purchase but being a magazine offering it adds a bot more weight to it, especially for collectors.

You still sound drunk

Passed

Of course they did, I was wondering how no one had mentioned yet. I just don't know how back they go.

Entry #59 Let's skip the rest of the cds and go to the real stuff here. The compilation from Ceiba Records is a real beauty. They never released much stuff but I reckon this little disc is their best release ever. Honestly. If you only need one release from them this is the one to get. Available on Discogs

I disagree. Pleiadians sound is more structures and well thought out, whereas Crop Circles is more chaotic and random, just like NeoGoa

I would find very interesting the comments and thoughts of someone younger than us Someone that grew up with the NeoGoa and later found out about the oldschool Goa. See if they think there are differences and if yes what which exactly.

I just had a revelation. The first proto-NeoGoa album is.......Crop Circles - Tetrahedron.

I am thank you But link says forbidden

Wouldn't you prefer an album with no fillers? Instead of an 80 mins album do you think it would be better to have a 50 min album full of good tracks though?

Interesting. Why different durations fir different genres? Is it because of the typical Goa track length?

Yeap, I agree

I recently acquired a record player that will allow me after many years to listen to my (miniscule) LP collection. In conjuction with a chat I had with Greg, it got me thinking. How long should an album or compilation be? What is the golden ratio for quality/quantity? And more importanly for how long can a listener stay focused in order to appreciate the whole album/comp in one continous journey and stay focused to the music? In my case, I was finding difficult why a cd shoudln't be packed with over 70min of music. If the total time was less I thought it wasn't value for money. But with years, and becoming a more experienced listener, I realised that this is not the case. It is not about how many (or how long) tracks there are, but how sucessfull are to invoke emotions to you. Growing older and getting a family, it is even more difficult to find the time needed to listen to a whole album in one go. 45 to 60 min is by now a duration that I feell comfortable with. So what about you? What are your thoughts?

I wouldn't call them nerds but that is another important topic. Goa producers back then were inventing the genre as they were going along. They had no Goa sounds to draw inspiration from, their inspiration was coming from all different genres. And another thing, because they relied mostly on hardware they couldn't have everything. So they adjusted their music signature depending on the hardware they had. That's why you have Miranda, MFG, Asia 2001 etc etc. All Goa but still distinct to each other. But with software...there are no limits. And that, ironically, is the limiting factor to inspiration.

It would be really interesting if some producers jumped in the subject and share their thoughts with us. How do they feel about their music? Do they accept the labels we try to put on their music? Is the music they make how they want it to sound? Or are they struggling for something else but not quite there yet? What about the mastering? Are they happy with it or do they just go the flow? (same goes for their music, is it what they want or they just choose what is easier to sell?)

Too close I would say....near to proper Goa era Another thing I've been missing from the Goa era (maybe I;m wrong, my knowledge of New Goa is not extensive) are the samples. 60's and 70's sci-fi movies or spiritual/religious spoken words that were interwoven into the tracks and being a major component of the music. Who can forget quotes like "You will be robotised" or "People Can Fly" and so many more. Pick one. Is that a hint of New School Goa? Back then i called it Club Goa "He was the last best hope..."

Entry #58 Only interesting part is the Technoforms compilation that will develop into a series with Freeze magazine. Also very good selection of Jungle/Drum & Bass tracks.

Omg yes. A stunning album with really bad mastering

Entry #57 Let's skip #16 and #17 and go to the interesting stuff straight away. #18 is an excellent compilation of Junle/Drum&Bass tracks. Except the 2 Hardcore tracks the rest shine. Especially those made by White Label??? Does anyone know anything about this artist? I cannot find any info and his track are too good not to have been properly released somewhere before. And then you have a Psychedelic trance compilation mixed by Veros, a big name in the greek scene back then. 4 tracks by greek artists and 4 by israeli. A solid comp with one of my all time favourite "Shadows Of The Moon". Psycho Meditation once again proving they had great potential but their output was never massive. The israeli tracks are meh...borderline Nitzonot. Beautiful cover

The genre labelling committee hasn't reached a conclusion yet. Joke aside though, it has been used as a term to describe new school Goa for years now. Almost as soon as it appeared. I am surprised you weren't aware of that. In any case, in my ears, if not a genre then I categorise it as at least sub-genre. And from the comments here I get the feeling that a lot of people do that. As finding the first NeoGoa track/artist I do not think that is possible. There is probably none. The same way there was never a "first human". The transition was too smooth to be pinpointed on a specific point. There were always people trying to make Goa (slowly turning to new school goa) even during the "Dark Ages" What we can do is to choose the first album or compilation that defined that sound in such a detail and quality (maybe) to be considered as a turning point and quite distinct from it's predecessors. Something like X-Dream did with their Radio album The sound that the rest of the artists were trying to achieve/copy.

Entry #56 Four more entries from Lemon magazine. Some psychedelic trance tracks included with #12 and #13.

Is it the first time you hear that term?

Probably Filteria as you said, or at least the most well known. I see NeoGoa as a blatant copy paste of Pleiadians sound to be honest. What was difficult to achieve back then sound wise due to technical limitations (and made them sound so distinct and well produced) now days you can do it with no hardware and in a couple of days probably. Throw in a hundred of channels, melodies that have no feeling or connection between them and you have the bad NeoGoa. And where are the bridges in track structure? Goa was full of them, NeoGoa...not really. Or...I'm just old

Entry #55 Continuing with Master Output series. This lot should include Vol.5 as well.But since my LP collection is in Greece it wil have to wait for another day. Yes, you read correctly, LP. The 8th issue of Lemon magazine came with an LP . Vol. 6 is quite nice, featuring a Goa track. From Vol. 7 and later you can find a Psychonaut track in each release, maybe the easiest way to obtain their LP releases and if acidic Goa is your thing. At the same time though quality started to suffer with only a couple of tracks in each release being of interest.