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I mean, I think since the 2018 announcement we've heard about 8 or 9 unreleased songs either as a sample on their YouTube or in full during a set. Their first, third, and fourth albums were either 8 or 9 tracks. They have a full album written. This is on top of that aborted album they never released around 2012 or so. We're just...waiting.
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It seems Ovnimoon is finally just doing a full-blown goa album. Collaborations with E-Mantra and Etnica among others.
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If commercialism isn't determined by commercial success then I don't think we should use the term commercialism at all. And if we're talking about Vini Vici-type stuff, I would (and often do) call it psyroom. Or crap, when warranted.
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I don't like terms like "commercial" or "mainstream" or "popular" to describe music in an international, global music scene. Mainstream in one country might be more underground in another. Astral Projection have sold millions of albums world wide and once had videos in circulation on late-night MTV---but not in every country. They were certainly "commercial" in Israel, but not the US. Perhaps the most extreme example: when Armin and Tiesto were basically the rock stars of central and western Europe they were selling fewer albums in the US than the death metal band Cannibal Corpse. It's all very relative. Most kinds of music are available globally thanks to the internet, but what becomes popular in any given place will not necessarily become popular in every other given place. As for the Vini Vici's of the world: I don't find them particularly psychedelic, but then neither were 1200 Mics, GMS, or Electric Universe after One Love. If psychedelia is your only criteria for whether or not something is psytrance then pretty much nothing except goa, forest, suomi and dark is actually psy, which to me seems sort of silly...
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What do you expect from a Trance dj set?
Meltwater replied to Digitalys's topic in General Psytrance
I don't know how anyone could enjoy a dj set with perfect track selection but consistently poor transitions. Not that I expect a perfectly flawless transition every time, but if it's consistently awkward and jagged I find it too distracting. And I actually find it interesting when a dj can tell they've misread a crowd by dropping a "wrong" track---I like watching dj's get out of a jam. Beyond that: it's dance music. Fewer breakdowns please, let the beat keep moving. This goes for all types of dance music, mind you, not just psy djs, which I rarely see anyway. -
Psy Trance on mainstream TV (Globally)
Meltwater replied to Bagachanged's topic in General Psytrance
I believe Astral Projection used to be on late-night MTV rotation in a few parts of Europe in the mid-late 90's. Not quite psytrance, and it's film rather than tv, but Juno Reactor co-wrote parts of the soundtrack for the Matrix movies. This is from a videogame, but I think some goa fans would enjoy this: -
How would you rate 2017 when it comes to psytrance?
Meltwater replied to Void Mantra's topic in General Psytrance
This saddens me. It's happening to a lot of other trance forums too. -
"Dreams are my specialty. Through dreams I influence mankind."
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Who still listens to Psytrance dj sets at home?
Meltwater replied to Digitalys's topic in General Psytrance
If it's on YouTube or SoundCloud and I like it, I will download it to listen to it whenever I want. -
God damn, and I was just thinking the other day about how people have been saying "the new AP album is almost ready" for ten years. Much excite.
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Blood Box - The Iron Dream Sleep Research Facility - Deep Frieze He's more minimal, but just about anything Thomas Koner. I could recommend more but those are good not-too-dark places to start, and the first two are some of the best albums around from any ambient genre.
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What music are you listening to right now?
Meltwater replied to Sputum Rotgut's topic in General Psytrance
Triquetra, "Renkinjutsu." Kind of sinister. -
I don't care too much for the original---it's not bad, just sort of plain---but I like the AP remix, and it's getting positive feedback seemingly everywhere but here. Can work well in psy, goa, or more normal trance sets.
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Meltwater replied to Sputum Rotgut's topic in General Psytrance
Chi-AD, "Astral Warrior" (the 9-minute version, not the longer one) -
Miranda. Not really familiar with the Swedish psy scene to be honest, I only know Miranda, Ticon and Vibrasphere and not much of them at that.
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I was expecting this to be a support group for those lamenting the rise of digital-only releases. Honestly, I would buy more trance music if more was more easily available in hard format. I don't really value downloads that much and if you aren't making it available in WAV or some other lossless format why would I bother to pay for it when I can listen to it on an HD YouTube video for free? I pretty much only pay for digital music if there's no other way to find a high-quality version of it or if they explicitly offer it in WAV. I like holding the actual physical thing in my hand when it comes to music. It's totally different from the way I view movies and TV, where I would rather watch it on Netflix. There is a certain joy that comes from unwrapping a new disc and reading through the liner notes that people are forgetting or worse, for the younger folks, just never experiencing it in the first place.
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What music are you listening to right now?
Meltwater replied to Sputum Rotgut's topic in General Psytrance
Blue Planet Corporation: Midian (Astral Projection remix). Those two melodies are so beautiful. -
Only real songs I've heard in this realm are by Alwoods, this one "Sun Trap" in particularly is just really pretty: Also, a bit faster, this Atmos remix of "Morning Breeze" by vibrasphere:
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Meltwater replied to Sputum Rotgut's topic in General Psytrance
Ovnimoon producing some straight-up goa. -
So now Armin van Buuren is producing "psytrance"
Meltwater replied to Meltwater's topic in General Psytrance
Well, they're pretty much the same group right? Sesto Sento just has fewer 16th-note bass rolls. Of course, Vini Vici hasn't done any The Police remixes yet- 64 replies
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So now Armin van Buuren is producing "psytrance"
Meltwater replied to Meltwater's topic in General Psytrance
And now Andrew Rayel is getting on board the "psytrain," producing "psytrance." Chanting? Check. Rolling or chugging bass? Check. Random triplets? Check. I blame Vini Vici for this.- 64 replies
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Meltwater replied to Meltwater's topic in General Psytrance
Tyas is very good.- 64 replies
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That groovy bassline... gimme gimme GIMME !
Meltwater replied to Latotale's topic in General Psytrance
This count as groovy?