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Just a reminder of this project's attempt at looking at the Psytrance subgenres and in a historical arc for the essential releases. You can get access them through our blog, we've got regular Trance also included on that wing of the project but separated. Other Electronic and non electronic are there too. https://rymboxset.blogspot.com/2018/06/trance.html
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Reviewed my previous list on Darkpsy and added another disc worth of comps and releases to include. Stopped at 2010 since I really didn't see a load of essentials AFTER that. Hopefully it looks accurate. As always feedback is welcome if given on any of these lists.
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"Psychedelic UK Techno" (Megadog, Crusty Techno, and Ethno-Hippies) https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-psychedelic-uk-techno-megadog-crusty-techno-and-ethno-hippies/
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Taking a break from the Psychedelic Trance Review and getting some Downtempo and related sets made or updated. Kinda related in their adjacent way with PSy. https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-ambient-dub/
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Twilight Psytrance done https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-twilight-psytrance-1/ Hopefully covered both sides well. Likely I'll just review what Psychedelic Trance sets I already have done and see if I need to expand or revise anymore.
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The Psychedelic Trance, in its entirety
thefreewave replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
sorry can't help you there and a little off-topic... Hopefully he didn't borrow a riff or two from the Tresor label back catalog by naming it that, lol- 349 replies
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New set done, Zenonesque. https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-zenonesque/ Went back a bit further then the pdf did. Didn't cover Darkprogpsy outside of it....
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thefreewave replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
I think that's one of the issues is that when you look at modern mixes of psytrance with newer releases is they are a mix of several of the subgenres (even listing several in the titles), they're new or small artists that aren't necessary to know or don't fit into the history, and they're not designed to really do any history lessons. That's where going over classics and the history part is essential in at least showing where it came from to those who care. Youtube mixes and spotify playlists will almost always be just updated modern versions, mixing several subgenre sounds from where they started, and often ignoring any origins of the subgenres. It's frankly hard to find any "classic" subgenre playlists....- 349 replies
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Forest Psytrance is up. This one a bit large https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-forest-psytrance/
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Psy Tech is up on RYM https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-psy-tech-1/ Youtube Playlist Partial Spotify More on the way......Twilight next ?
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Nice to see Fuzzion - Outlaws on here and then a decade + later on Psychedelic Techno Vol. 2. Good music doesn't disappear....Psy-Tech classic as it sounds great today!
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Progressive Psytrance is up on RYM https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-progressive-psytrance/ Youtube Playlist Spotify More on the way......Psy-Tech next
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New School Goa Set is up on RYM https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-new-school-goa/ Youtube Spotify I likely should get to Progressive Psy next....
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In the meantime I decided to re-do the main set and cover the Golden age from 1993-2000 and break them into a 4 disc intro thru the chronological years. Since the split really happens at the millennium the rest will likely fall under the individual sets. Dropped the post 2000 selections which included progressive and new school goa, added a lot more comprehensive picks, cleaned up the sources section, and added some videos. On the bottom i show what's already made and what's now on the way. https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-goa-trance-psytrance/ Youtube Spotify Playlist (most there) Made some progress earlier in the week on New School Goa. Have a draft on discogs https://www.discogs.com/lists/New-School-Goa/610314 and an even more complete one being made on rym to reflect.
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So the RYM Box Set project was started on the music database rateyourmusic (RYM for short) now known as Sonemic. It's a group project to highlight the essential artists, albums, and tracks for every music genre + scene. The ultimate guide to music genres. 11 Years+ Now!. It's as easy a way to explore a genre as it gets and is a chronological mixtape with a purpose. It was created on 2009 and is still being very actively worked and expanded by a multitude of people. It has over 1,000 genre sets with nearly 1,300 discs worth of music. Many of these are stream-able on YouTube and Spotify. I helm that project and while we've always had a few sets for psytrance, many of those are the more traditional splits. Goa and Psy-Trance has often been lumped together instead of separated (even my main set needs some re-doing). Dark, Progressive, and Full On more recently acknowledged. I've made a few sets in the past few years to reflect the subgenres off Trance and Psy-Trance based off the sources out there. I'm always up for improving my existing sets and getting to these newer ones but would also love to get some help from the experts here if possible. I have a few upcoming sets in draft and in order on discogs. https://www.discogs.com/user/freewave/lists but the rest of the subgenres under Psychedelic Trance are all linked on the main list and below on RYM in much more detail Goa Trance / Psytrance Psybient Nitzhonot Suomisaundi Full-On Psytrance Progressive Psytrance Psy Tech Dark Psytrance Forest Psytrance New School GOA Twilight Psytrance Zenonesque Hi-Tech Psytrance / Psycore If an album is a solid choice, then it just needs an ideal track to represent that genre best. If you think I need to add something or remove something, let me know. Ultimately experts on this forum will know much more than I will what best represents each subgenre then I ever will and many quotes have been included to give an oral history of the genres and the importance of the selections. . If anyone would like to help I'd love to best reflect them in depth and accurately. Even feedback after I do put out a new set this month on RYM. Thanks!
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thefreewave replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
ahhh ok. yeah i was hoping the pdf covered the essential artists and albums for each style, not just "examples" of some. Makes it harder to understand the genre when its different artists, albums, and criteria on the different sites to check out or the essentials / classics are skipped over. Thanks for explaining that though.- 349 replies
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PsyTrance Guide Night Full-on Also known as: Twilight, South African Full-on BPM range: 145-150 Night Full-on is the evil twin of Full-on: it has the same fast-paced bass and leads but with a darker vibe and twisted, synthetic sounds. On the festivals, Twilight Psy typically sound during the night-time, hence the name. Note: probably, Night Full-on and Twilight will be separated is the future version of this guide. Please read more in the blog.???? Examples: CPU — Processing Unit (Original Mix) Azax Syndrom — Flawless Victory (Original Mix) Alienn — Goodfellas (Original Mix) Absolum & Outer Signal — Get Up Now (Original Mix) Notable artists: Absolum, (on pdf) Brainwash, (not on pdf) CPU, (not on pdf) Ex-Gen, (not on pdf) Outer Signal, (not on pdf) Scorb, (not on pdf) Pitch Hikers, (on pdf) Shift, (not on pdf, on a few of the comps) Stereopanic (not on pdf) Notable labels: Nexus Media, 3D Vision, Hypergate Records, Lysergic Records, Nutek Records, Mechanik Records Ormion Recommendations:" Azax Syndrom, (not on pdf) Khopat, (not on pdf) Sidhartha, (on pdf) Tryambaka, (on pdf) Phatmatix, (on pdf) Seroxat, (not on pdf) Killer Buds. (not on pdf) All of them are classic examples of Twilight." Check also albums by Tryon, (not on pdf) Wizack Twizack, (not on pdf) Dark Nebula. (not on pdf) I guess this itemizes what IS and isn't on the pdf. again 3 different sources showing off differing recommendations. Hence the confusion on what to go by......- 349 replies
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thefreewave replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
Sorry that discogs list was private instead of public. changed. Catching up on thread now.- 349 replies
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I'm a bit mystified here. I know Ormion has been very outspoken on what great Twilight is in all his posts on this forum but yet his recommendations aren't matched by what is on the pdf but they seem a little closer to the psytranceguide stub.....As a newcomer its hard to know what to go by when people are given very different answers by 3 experts...... I've copied over the pdf recommendations into a chronological list (s.african on second half, do most people separate them or lump them together?) https://www.discogs.com/lists/Twilight-Psytrance/603302 and all the source links i found so far....- 349 replies
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I don't supposed anyone has ever tagged the results with subgenre tags have they? Uptempo and Dowtempo doesn't do a whole lot when there's better subgenre tags that can be used....
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thefreewave replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
So here's the set i just compiled for https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym-ultimate-box-set-nitzhonot/ I kept the quotes and scores from Agneton and Psygreg seems like the great experts for it. I guess the examples Zed Reactor and Space Buddha fit the style but are a bit average in comparison to some of the other options. Ideally it would be nice to have the best of the best albums under selections. I don't know how far you've gotten into Psycore. I've got a bit of a list going but its pretty hard to separate and define it apart from Hi-Tech https://www.discogs.com/lists/Psycore/544591 It's s start....- 349 replies
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We are in the brickwalled era. Even psytrance must suffer the same fate or sound not so up to par.
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Glad this forum is going strong. May 2020 be a year in sharp focus.
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Glad you are rebooting your series on your blog. Looks very nice! Hard to get excited with just 1995 up BUT we know there's a lot coming and you're already adding a lot more detail then just 5 picks per year. Really look forward to this!
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thefreewave replied to Lightforce's topic in General Psytrance
I was looking through this forum and came across this thread and your pdf and i must say it makes things MUCH easier to classify the different psytrance genres than EVER before. Personally it would be nice to have the other sections (origins, more examples) with their retrospective subgenre sections but I can understand that it allows people to go through the basics first before it gets that much more complex. I've been working on my own project for breaking down and explaining genres in chronological cd length playlists for just over 10 years and its clear this next year I should spend the time on trance and psytrance and going more in depth with them as you have illustrated and exploring the subgenres a whole lot more. Most of those lists are old and I've added onto them rather than break them apart into different lists like Hardcore and Drum & Bass. Anyway your lists are so comprehensive I may need to go through my existing ones and see what i may have missed out on. Most of mine were based on multiple sources and posts on this forum a couple times, like with Full-On. Anyway it will be good to compare and contrast and then look into subgenres i haven't checked out yet. I'm looking into Nitzonot this week. I'm seeing many things i agree with but other albums seems a bit weaker choices. If you're up for feedback on improvements I'd love to help. Agneton and Psygreg seems like the great experts of that. [edit: update] I was actually looking into Psycore when i found your thread. That still seems a little under-documented as a whole but it seems like the black sheep of the psy/hardcore families. Anyway I just wanted to first say thank you and also show what I've compiled on my side of the internet. Hopefully I'll be catching up on Psychedlic Trance all through 2020. Anyway glad to meet you and thanks again!- 349 replies
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