Manuser

Then my mistake, I meant when you listen to their goa trance sound, you can't really hear that musical talent you are talking about. And generally talking about musical talent in psytrance music is bullshit... psytrance artists are very good at using a machine very well, yes... there are some exceptions, Simon Posford to name one. But if you say the guy is musically talented outside psytrance, then i believe you.

Technically talented, yes a lot..! Musically talented, not really.

Have a listen of some of the tracks I listed in my previous post.

Raindust got one of the nicest melodies i have ever heard, this melody is quite simple but so so beautiful, unforgettable..

For those who want to be convinced : Abel Ramos vs Shane 54 - Kippenvelmeter (Original mix) (!!!) Ace's delight - Mental theme (Ultra trance mix) Ace's delight - Sunrise (!!!!!) Adam Selim - Stigmata (Original mix) Adam White - Ballerina (Original mix) (!!!!) Adam White - Ballerina (Matt Darey remix) Airbase - The phoenix theme (2002 remix) Airbase - Theme from the rock Airbase vs Inzite - Unity of Earth 2002 (Lost cities remix) Airscape - L'esperanza (Armin van Buuren's rising star mix) Airscape - Sosei (Original mix) Airwave - When things go wrong (2003 mix) Alibi - Eternity (Armin Van Buuren's Rising star mix) Angel ace - Emotion (Original mix) Aria - Dido (Armin van Buuren universal religion mix) (!!!!!) Aria one - Willow (DJ Tiesto Magikal remake) (!!!!!) Art of trance & Caroline Lavelle - Breathe (Dawnseekers remix) Astura - Cassiopeia Blank & Jones - Unknown treasure (Mr. Sam's beyond the grace of God remix) Blank & Jones - Watching the waves (Airbase remix) BRUNI - Theme from nothingness (Original 2005 mix) (!!) Cabala - Dark blue (Original mix) CERN - The message (Southern mix) Cindy Laser - The man i'd die for (Atlantis ITA remix) Cosmicman - Krystal dreams Cygnus X - The orange theme (Bervoets & De Goeij remix) Cygnus X - The orange theme (Moonman's Orange Juice mix) Delerium - Truly (Signum club mix) DJ Tandu - Velvet DJ Tatana - Always on my mind (Ronski speed dub) DJ Tiesto - Close to you (Magik Muzik mix) DJ Tiesto - Forever today DJ Tiesto - Nyana DJ Tiesto - Sparkles (Transa remix) DJ Tiesto - Suburban train (!!!) DJ Tiesto - Theme from Norefjell (Magikal remake) (!!!) Estuera - Travels F Massif - Somebody (Ferry Corsten remix) Ferry Corsten - I love you (Ferry Corsten remix) Ferry Corsten - It's time (Agnelli & Nelson remix) Ferry Corsten - Sweet sorrow (The thrillseekers remix) (!!!) Ferry Corsten feat. Elles de Graaf - Show you my world (Ferry Corsten remix) (!!!!) Fire & Ice - Forever young Fire & Ice - Lost emotions (2001 remix) Frank T.R.A.X. - Nebuchan (O.r.g.a.n. remix) Fred Baker presents Iguana - Sweet moonlight Fridge - Mystery (Airbase remake) G & M Project - Sunday afternoon (Nu-NRG remix) Hemstock & Jennings - Crimson soil Hemstock & Jennings - The passion (Original mix) Hemstock & Jennings feat. Adam White - Reverence Hemstock & Jennings feat. Adam White - Reverence (Darren Tate remix) Ian Van Dahl feat. Marsha - Castles in the sky Inzite - Everest (Original Mix) Jaccot - Mu-v xpress John 00 Fleming vs M.I.K.E. - Dame blanche (John 00 Fleming mix) Kyau vs Albert feat. Julie - Not with you (Ronski speed vocal mix) (!!!) Lange - Don't think it feel it (Cosmicman remix) Laura Turner - Soul deep (Signum extended club mix) Madelyne - Beautiful child (Hiver & Hammer remix) (!!!) Matti Laamanen - Flakes (Ferry Corsten remix) Modulation - Spirits (Cosmicman mix) Moon project - Moments are forever (Original mix) Motorcycle - As the rush comes (Above & Beyond Dynaglide remix) Motorcycle - As the rush comes (Armin Van Buuren's Universal Religion Reconstruction) (!!!!!) N-Fluence - Sweet substance Nitromethane - Time to die (Cosmicman remix) Nu-NRG - Free fall Oceanlab feat. Justine Suissa - Beautiful together (Signum remix) Paul Oakenfold - Southern sun (Dj Tiesto remix) (!!!!) Plastic boy - From here to nowhere Plastic boy - Twixt Randy Katana - In silence (Ron Van Den Beuken remix) (!!) Rhythm of life - You put me in heaven with your touch (Lange remix) Riva - Time is the healer (Hiver & Hammer remix) (!!!) Shane 54 - Equinoxe 4 (Original mix) Shane 54 - Souvenir de Chine (Club mix) Shane 54 - Vampire (Short club mix) Shane - C'est musique (Armin van Buuren remix) (!!!) Signum - Second wave Signum - Push through (Original mix) (!!!) Solar stone - Seven Cities (Armin van Buuren Remix) (!!!) System F - Spaceman (Original mix) Talla 2CLC - Is anybody out there (Taucher mix) The muses rapt - Spiritual healing (!!!!) The scarab - Soul sailor Tony Walker - Field of joy Tranquility base - Razorfish (Above & beyond full on mix) Unknown source - Nadjanema (Original mix) Vengaboys - Kiss (Airscape mix) Veracocha - Carte blanche (Original) Vincent De Moor - Green heaven Woodshokk - Tulips & chocolate (G & M Project remix) Yahel - Devotion (Armin Van Buuren Remix) (!!!!!) Yahel - Devotion (Brisky Remix) (!!!!!) I like melodic trance a lot, but it's true that there are lots of bad tracks, as there are lots of unforgettable ones. Melodic trance brings me different emotions than psy, this is the music i like the most i think.

Indeed that is a totally wicked album, especially tracks 2 and 3 if i remember well. Like you said, as it's the case for the best ambient albums, the silence which follows the end of the album let you think that you just listened something astonishing. Recommended to anyone who like these mysterious and terribly dark atmospheres.

It is very minimal dark ambient, considering it was made in 1993 it is ok, the sounds are well chosen, but it got like tenth of the complexity of some dark ambient Cds i have heard, for example Yen Pox & Troum (this one). It is dark, i recommend you the Cd above if you want something darker and more ethereal. I find Luciana simple on the whole, intriguing of course, but i am sure they could make an awesome remix of it today, if they got the courage ! : )

5/10 from me, it is not = astrix though, i like it more : ) but it sounds simple and dull sometimes. Not bad, but not among my favourites, and it could sound better if there were more work in it, when i listen to it i don't feel that there is a huge work put into the tracks. PS : Track 1, killer bassline : )

Looks interesting, thanks for the recommendation seraph : )

I noticed that this track by Tripster really sounds similar to some Total eclipse tracks, same kind of sounds. Is it just me?

Back on topic : ) I ask you a question : What is a ban for? My answer : as it is a public forum, a ban is to put away people who disturb too much the forums, thay disturb too much most of the people, and then they have to be excluded. The moderators ban, Ok. But they ban for the the well being of the forum right? Isn't this the job of moderator? Yes it is. Now look, according to this thread (or perhaps, the ones who were for the ban don't wanna post here (why?)), so according to this thread, only a few people here were disturbed by Cinos, the other people found his posts "interesting" if the word is right, annying sometimes but interesting. Yes "interesting" because otherwise nobody would have replied to him. IMO, the question is : What is a ban for? I let you answer...

My thought was simple : they play CDs on radio (or Vinyl), not Mp3.

I partly agree, but i find it just sad that a member like Cinos will not be able to post anymore because of such a "subjective" ban. Yes it is not the end of the world, but that is a pity. hehe, well we can express our opinion, as far as i am concerned i don't give a real importance of this ban as it is not a so serious thing, but just wanted to give my views on it. By the way, you post 10 messages a day ; ) (Get a life )

None, it was on the radio, so i guess it means CD for you?

hehe, i can't agree more agia that is like the worst argument and the most h y p o c r i t i c a l of all. You dislike Cinos, and you say that, at least this ban will allow him to have a social life. Hehe how hypocrital it is ! And if you used to answer to Cinos's arguments, it means you were interested in his opinions about life, and if sometimes you got out of your nerves it is because your were sensitive to his opinion in a way, otherwise you would have just ignored him... I don't say that i agreed with Cinos, all his arguments about love, i totally disagreed about, but well, Cinos has a strange view on these kind of things.. well, it is his right. My opinion : )

I never heard it, thanx for the recommendation : )

actually it was oopium who gave the link in another topic in the General section, and that's why i downloaded your mix, so you can thank him and we can too : ) by the way, what about the 4th track Tripster - Skitzophrenik? Wow, it is the kind of track i would have found really wicked some years ago !

hehe, of course that is subjective and my opinion, but that track brings me special emotions like no others, that is a lovely track and i can't really explain why : )

Yes, respect, except for the french stuff :-/ See you : )

This CD contains the best Logic bomb track, and one of the sweetest psytrance tracks ever made, that is The third revelation : )

Thanx delars, even if it sounds old for me, that's still a nice mix and always good to listen to

I follow Skeleton, I never understood why you took Cinos's words so seriously (?) and ...don't tell he was the most rude person here, Ok i didn't read all his posts but what i can say is that a member like Overdose (sorry) was much more rude to him with words like "Idiot", "Fuck" and a rude attitude in general. The ban is really subjective and inequal IMO (Ok you will say it is always subjective, but come on...).