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What is the word about here? Oh, why are Ra and D5 Shiva's desciples descending from heaven to teach mortal producers how to push buttons on their keyboards. Yawn. Next, please. N E wayz, my fave' Suntrip releases are Goasia and Khetzal. See? Was that so hard? I made an entire sentence in a goa trance related thread, and have not one used the terms "D5" and/or "Ra". Your turn, children.

Don't worry about the whole Plus 8 vs. M_nus thing... It's a rant which few will like and/or understand. Minimal, samey, repetitive and monotonous is the fashionable thingy, so if you glorify M_nus, odds are you'll be hip amongst the Berlin techno geek-head techno crowd Anyways, Richie's essential collection which excludes Plastikman would include: F.U.S.E.- Dimension Intrusion Richie Hawtin- DE9 | Transitions Circuit Breaker- Trac-X Richie Hawtin- Minus Orange 12" UP!- Spiritual high 12" Final Exposure- Vortex 12" Richie Hawtin & Pete Namlook as From Within- From Within 1 , From Within 2 ...and if you can cope with it, give his Concept 1 series a chance. On a personal level, I don't dig it.

Richie Hawtin, THE man, THE legend Minimal acid house, yessir, is what we call(ed) it. I got tired for the exact reason you listed - overplaying. Richie Hawtin is a guy who became a world wide phenomenon during a period I was growing up and developing a crazy interest in electronic music. His videos were all over. The acid tab cover controversy made EVERYBODY look, and well Spastik... Spastik is when those who looked before listened as well. Why did you develop a dismay if I lost interest? I've been canning to death everything he's published since about as long as I remember. It only took me 12 years to quit the "ass kissing". I won't forgive him for M_nus though. Not ever. Never. N - E - V - E - R - ! 9 minute long tracks with four flat intertwining sounds? Gee, Richie, you and your friends are the geniuses even my mom brags about, right? Are you? You muzst be! **applaud everyone please** Minus Orange is my favorite track of all times, F.U.S.E.'s "Dimension Intrusion" still resides in my book as one of the most complete and thoroughly thought out albums in electronic music, Circuit Breaker's Overkill track and "Trac-X" releases were some of the first touches with hard techno I ever had... and... and... and the list could go on forever. That thing people call "DE9 | Transitions" is usually the reason they tend to think Richie is the ultimate God, especially if they weren't around the Plastikman boom. But slowing down Plus 8 Records Ltd. in favor of M_nus? Unforgivable. Stupid and unforgivable. The entire M_nus back catalogue ain't worth 1/12 of Plus 8 stuff, despite consisting of some top drawer material. Pity is, after a while, a sane pair of ears could sense the unfortunate direction those guys would pursue. It cannot be pardoned. No. What? You think it can? Lemme tell you: no. No. Zip it, please. No. Whatevargh. Richie hauls ass! Take it from somebody who had a Richie shrine in his bedroom. But what it all comes down to is that he is just not that above the rest.

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I concur. And I reckon it counts, as it's a track which clearly brings the album to an end, a closing track. I also like Etnica's Baraka, which is my most played track off that album. I'm also super keen on ultra explosive closing tracks, as is with Miranda's Second Steps To The Stars on her Real Rush album, and perhaps OOOD's Rifa, or to jump in some techno waters, Speedy J's bomb Pannik (remix) off Loudboxer. Those times when the last track gives you that final adrenalin rush, none of that feeble crap... Shpongle's ...And The Day Turned To Night was an awesome way to end an album as well.

Excellent idea! It's my free day today, I have a slight cold, and I'll go through some music and post a tracklist of some tunes I quite dig! Sounds like it'll be fun. I'll be back. Hasta la vista.

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Speedy J- Patterns (Remix) EP Pleiadians- I.F.O. Regis- Gymnastics Jeff Mills- Waveform transmission vol. 1 I must have heard the above literary tens of thousands of times, and am still not sick or tired.

Downloaded it yesterday afternoon. Listened to it last night. A nice retroish sounding set, but might I add this is the type of music I abbandonded quite a few years ago. Some great tracks, sounding alla old school Zenith releases; think Flowers Of Intelligence, and some corny dutch hard core, with those horribly cheesy alleged melodic segments, and too-fast-to-even-die-to-it tempos. Overall: nice, I'm keeping it, if for nothing else then for nostalgic value. I won't be listening to it a lot, but a few mates might find it interesting.

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No psyshops over at Zagreb either. CDs by Twisted Records occasionally pave their way through to a shop called Planet Music, which is relatively slowly but steadily turning into a heavy metal orientated shop. But they still almost have the entire back catalogue of psychedelic acts such as The Ozric Tentacles, The Acid Mothers Temple and Tangerine Dream in stock. The festival you talked about, Underwater Overground is no more. There's a small festival around Pula, I forgot its name, but I heard it's cool. We occasionally have smaller parties in Zagreb called Ministarstvo Psihodelije, which have in recent times become surprisingly popular and attract more people from one event to the next. Interesting thing is that in a few days, the resurrected duo known as California Sunshine will be playing a live gig in this large hangar called Jadran Film in Zagreb. Anyways, during the past two years or so, there was a handful of strong parties with guests appearances of relevant names on the scene, such as Merv Pepler, Ion Ion, Aphid Moon, Talpa and some projects from Wild Thing Records... All in all, our scene is pretty small, but there's always a spark to keep things vital! The golden age of Zagreb's psy scene is 1998-2000, when parties called Astralis were held. Though that institution and party organization still exist, they have since changed style quite a few times, and are now focused on the whole minimal/electro-house genre. Back in those days, they brought names such as Gus Till, Yaniv Haviv, Tsuoyoshi Suzuki prior to his radical change in direction and James Monro to Zagreb. They are responsible for arousing my interest in the genre and for making me go out there and spending what has until today amounted to thousands of euro on psy trance music releases Most people who listen to this music around here are P2P leechers, so frankly, I don't see a point of even bothering with opening up a psy trance orientated shop. The demand isn't sufficient to offer a single shelf with psy trance music, let alone a shop. Most alleged die hard old schoolers have never even purchased a real album, so no point in further arguing...

My humble guess would be that i.o. stands for Interstellar Overdrive, as implied by the thread title. But then again, this whole topic is covered with a veil of mystery... For real though, I'm with reger and I am all for hearing their tunes, people! Give us tha muzack!

Goa trance album: Pleiadians- Identified flying object (1997) (Dragonfly Records) Techno album: Brother's Yard- Reaction (1999) (PV) Rock album: U2- The unforgettable fire (1984) (Capitol Records) IDM album: Speedy J- A shocking hobby (2000) (NovaMute) ^^my all time #1 if genres were not to be considered^^ Ambient album: Dreamfish- Dreamfish (remastered, reissue) (2001) (Avatar Records) Pop album: Depeche Mode- Violator (1990) (Mute Records Ltd.)

part 2 + my other top 5 at the moment GU10 by Danny Tenaglia Profound Sounds Vol. 3 by Josh Wink Prana's "Geomantik" Chris Liebing- Selected Remixes Of The Last 10 Years Tutankhamon 9000 ...

My favorite track here is without a doubt Astrancer's Dzog Chen. Very unique, with a kick and a drive that just cannot be imitated or duplicated without being copied. Hence this track's one of a kind status in my book, something along the lines of the old school class kick Chai Machine by Nasha FEAT. Mad Sheer Khan. I usually don't enjoy over used eastern influences and samples, but Astrancer hits it on the toe nail here. In fact, I admit I really dig a combination of elements I usually hardly ever get into. Pace wise, it never really picks up or leads to wall to wall explosions. It's more of a drifting, just sit back and let me take you there type-of-a-track. Great stuff. Call me crazy, but this track's structure and flow somehow remind of the old school dutch classic, Funky Drive by X-Connection

I'll tell on you to my mommy, you big, lousy copy cat! She ought to give you a spank or two!

I once had a discussion with somebody, and when asked about this album, out of the blue I responded: "...As corny as goa trance gets..." Nothing has changed, opinion wise.

Solar Quest- AcidOphilez (2xCD) (Entropica) A forgotten gem

Interesting point. But remember that those gold classics, back in their day, were most probably canned to death by each and every DJ on a global scale, and have eventually bored everyone who was around. Most of those same DJs have since a long time abbandoned ship, started digging a new style and/or sound, and just don't wanto to go back to something that was "hot" a decade ago. Though I have to admit, sometimes when I hear the crap coming out of the speakers at some parties, I feel like begging for an oldie goldie tune...

I already wrote what I am talking about in my first post, but since you have not elaborated upon which part of my post do you not agree with any why, I don't know what and how to respond, and/or what part of your filed complaint should I focus on. Anyways, I wasn't bashing anything, as you can see, and I wrote, I quite like "Transdimensional", so there is no need to act all tough behind the monitor, it won't get you anywhere, relax... I was merely saying that "Transdimensional" is an excellent, superb old school goa trance classic. But it all stops there. "I.F.O.", on the other hand, in terms of sound explorations and maximalizing the limits of psychedelic trance music, goes beyond anything released within the genre up to then. That was known in 1997 and is still a fact on solid grounds in 2008. And let's face it, tastes are tastes, but the fact somebody makes a thread about it won't change history; love the album 'til you die or burn it with a lighter, but "I.F.O." wins out. Not to be confused, that does not and cannot diminish the beauty and quality of "Transdimensional". Anyways, all I know is that everything I had by the whole D5/Hunab Ku/Ra crew was sold for next to nothing to random people, except "The uncertainty principle", which is veeeeeery good. I couldn't stand the goat cheese attack of their other releases.

Warp Records. Pick virtually any CD with record label's name stamped on it, and you should feel at home.

"Transdimensional" is a fantastic 78 minute voyage through trance. Plain and simple. Samey, yes. Boring, hell no. Many don't agree, but D5's debut is actually an album where I am delighted that 9/10 tracks are basically just extensions of each other. Certain melodic segments are really memorable, thus hence the album's status as one of goa trance's high points. I actually like Electron Wave's album more than any other work by that clique. "The uncertainty principle" actually aims straight to the head and drops out many fluffy and cheesy elements which occasionally plagued their earlier releases. The melodies are sharper and more focused, plus some production effects on there are awesome. That said, I could have easily stopped listening to psy trance after having been acquainted with the Pleiadians. Anybody could. Dimension 5 had a phenomenal debut in my ears, but just too confined within already rigid genre limits. The Pleiadians knew no limits, had no limits and set limits other are yet to overcome.

Sounds awfully dated, no doubt, but I LOVE the kick drum in this one (the first track): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3w2Nv9Wdp4...feature=related I have a thing for well arranged trash can drum kicks, and this is a great one. Sounds really old school hip-hopish (Marley Marl, Naughty By Nature), and the tune has the background humming effect used as an accompanying bass line. Haha, real cool!

Yves Deruyter- Calling earth Joey Beltram- Psycho bass Speedy J- Pull over X-101- Sonic destroyer Some tunes I remeber from way back when. Couldn't stop listening.