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The "Not as much love for IFO as everyone else" thread
rino replied to Veracohr's topic in General Psytrance
I somehow always thought of the Pleiadians project to be much, much more than a memorable melody segment, if you follow me. Not that I don't see where you're coming from, but if you've ever come to question their ability to orchestrate a memorable lead, check out virtually any pre 1998 Etnica track, namely Full On, Vimana, Floating Universe, Chemical Trance, Starship 101 and Mystical Experience In Goa. I think that if they wanted to make an album packed with memorable leads, they would have done it. And they did too: it is called "Alien Protein", under their Etnica moniker. I'd actually quote myself and apply it to your post as well. I don't recall any Pleiadians track having the same melody reoccur throughout, and Lunar Civilization would be an exception, as the other Crop Circles tracks I know don't follow that formula... And I don't think, but that is only a matter of subjective opinion, how an eventual lack of obvious and in your face melodies means you don't know how to make them. Of course "I.F.O." is not down to earth as you pointed out, and I seriously doubt it was intended to be. It was the kind of music which levitated my kitchen elements six feet up in the air. But that is only me. I really, but really like that album, yet simultaneously I don't blame anybody else for not feeling the same. Diversity rules - amen to that! Yeah, so true, albums like "Music For The Jilted Generation", "Public Energy #1", "Waveform Transmission Vol. 1" and "Discovers The Rings Of Saturn" or Joey Beltram's "Classics" all have a special place in my heart and on my shelf, regardless of what the masses may think of them today! -
I concur with the rest. Exceptional guy to trade and communicate with. All items came as described packaged as though he was sending me Faberge eggs. I'd deal with him any time again
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I just came back from a two week stay in Holland. I got a decent amount of music, but as far as I'm concerned, the Mid-Town Records shop in Hague, where I found most of the old school back catalogue of the legendary X Trax imprint, just snatches the crown! And all of the items were new & unsealed :posford: Yikes! Apparently, that shop still has their entire catalogue in stock, as it is their respective distributer. None of their releases are rarities by the long run, but if you wanna find them all in one place, that is where you go
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I love the sample, just about does the trick every time when mixed with some vintage Green Velvet tracks or the older Gaetek material, when pitched down. I'm still with my original post: Minus Orange
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I always enjoy a good old "best of" topic Just as in healium's case, my list tends to fluctuate like the dow jones average, but from what I've realized throughout the years, my top 5 is quite constant: Pleiadians- Family of light (1999) (Dragonfly Records) Prana- Geomantik (1997) (Matsuri Productions) Planet B.E.N.- Trippy future garden (1996) (Polytox Records) Pleiadians- Identified flying object (1997) (Dragonfly Records) Tandu- Multimoods (1997) (Phonokol) ×××××××××× The honorable mention top 5 would look a little something like this: Jaia- Blue energy/Blue synergy (2000) (Yellow Feather Records) Etnica- The juggeling alchemists under the black light (1995) (High Society) O.O.O.D.- A live (1996) (Completely Cabbaged) Koxbox- Forever after (1995) (Harthouse) Man With No Name- Teleportation (2000) (Dragonfly Records)
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I don't really listen to, or enjoy, ambient/downtempo music that much, so I cannot really write an elaborate review and emphasize what is so great about this album. Likewise, I couldn't give any similar recommandations, because "Androneda" must be the *only* ambient album since the first Dreamfish which impressed me all the way! Man, I'd quote everything Ormion wrote and triple it, this album is really, but really something special! As far as I am concerned, there is no doubt: this is the finest psy orientated purchase I've made this year. The album by Orbit Constructions, "Androneda", is the ideal soundtrack to merge into one with the whiteness of your bed room wall or to get consumed by the infinite dark while listening to this with your eyes closed. I don't know, but I don't think I've felt like this since listening to "Consumed" quite a few years ago. Get this album, regardless of what your attitude towards ambient music is. Way to go Richard Rutter! This is by far his best work up to date. I'm impressed, and I sincerly hope you'll be as well.
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Fo' sho, G. If only U didn't write like Tupac Shakur's brother in law, some thugz from this forum might even be able to read your graffiti gibberish. Peace bruva. One 4 da hood 'n' all o' dat.
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I usually don't fancy bitching, but there's something worth ranting over in this thread, so... I agree with Ormion, more than anybody else here. The whole minimal aesthetic used to be fun. Yes, we got the kicks out of it, and yeah, we assimilated the whole less is more philosophy, but for fuck's sake! Where's the energy? Where's the rawness? Where did all the pure power disappear? Where's the wild out and get rowdy type music? Sure I am happy that our predictions about the future of music back when we were kids actually came to be, but damn, if it goes any further in this direction, then hitting yourself with a pen across your forehead with rhythmic intervals will be considered an avantguarde electronic music composition.
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Check the first post for still available items.
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FLAC/ZIP When I listen to music on my computer, I play compressed WAVs, that is, FLACs. I'll just skip the whole what is better and so forth discussion, as I cannot hear an eventual difference in sound quality, if there is one at all, with a healthy pair of ears.
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Me wants won kopee doo
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starting to get annoyed with discog messages
rino replied to technosomy's topic in General Psytrance
Er, no, I avoid contacting you through discogs, but hmh, uhm, I'll controly mycelph! -
Nope, there is a Grand Canyon of a difference between being harsh and talking non sense about stuff you obviously don't know jack about. Being harsh can be justified if one has arguments tucked under his belt. Being an idiot can hardly ever be justified. As for the album, I wouldn't know what it sounds like, as I do not listen to downtempo music, but my friends are all over it. Whatever, be it Ultimae or not, I don't think having big names master your album implies you've made a quality release. Beh, I dunno what I'm trying to say here. I'm out, though.
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No problem, I just saw one when I was in Paris for the 20 years of the Rex Club, during the week between 25th of May and June 1st. Though I don't pictures of vinyls, sorry, this is a geek free zone where I live. We get our rocks off in a slightly different manner here
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Well man, I'll take your word for it, chances are you're more of an experienced "international" buyer/trader than I am, so you leave me with no choice but to believe you. I am sorry to hear it, as I really cannot find anything to complain about in all my previous deals with pedro, and I've done quite a few, so it is either that I've had a string of luck, or... I don't think taking it out on me will make anything better. I'm just telling you what my experiences with pedro are, and from what I've gathered, I'm not a lonely exception here. Yeah, I understand you feel like shit, I would too if I was in your shoes, that is precisely why I'm kinda surprised, as pedro hasn't ever before been accused to such extent for being a lousy seller. Get it? I am not trying to make you look like a 12 year old girl who get her Chuppa Chups snatched, aiight?
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I'll skip the whole BPC discussion, but Acid Air Raid is still faaaaaaaaaaar, far away from being an eye piercing collector's rarity. In fact, it can still be found in tinier vinyl shops across Europe. Anyways, as good as those old BPC vinyls might be, the prices they fetch are laughable, to say the least. But, just like Nemo says, this is a situation where an individual who has them makes quality rips and spreads them around. I mean, the love for music cannot be measured with money. I don't see how can anybody be considered an "unworthy" fan or not a true to the heart fan if he/she is unwilling to unload up to 70 euro for a 3 track 12" release? Or am I missing something? I have rips of those tracks, not originals. So what? Kill me if you can
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My two cents: You people must be on a bad trip, to say the least. I've had 15+ CD lots delivered from pedro in no time, for a super bargain price. If Pedro is not responding, I'm quite certain he has a good reason not to. One time, he did not reply to my mails for 10 days, and then suddenly wrote me an "apology mail", and said how he had to go on a sudden and urgent business trip, sending me an extra of 3 CDs, of my own choice, free of charge. Plain and simple, the guy is an exceptional seller. Be patient, and your patience will, as always, be rewarded. Whinning won't get you anywhere.
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Can you imagine: L.A. based Producer and DJ, Quadra, also known as the ultimately uncreative and souless alleged producer, is set drop yet another run of the mill album, with nine eight minute tracks copying each other. This is a sonical journey like just about any other you've experienced with him and his studio brothers in arms. Their constant, and irreplacable weapons of choice are the standardized rolling bass lines, the anthemic cheese induced melodic segments and the presence of a bland bang your head against the wall kick throughout. Run and get your copy while they're still in stock! On a side note, I cannot even imagine anybody considering buying the albums mars listed unless the marketing was what it is.
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My first set, and one of the 3-4 I've ever done, was a part vinyl/part CD-J/part Mini Disc, all connected to my Technics amplifier, and played on two sets of speakers, smaller Philips speakers from my friend, and larger Technics set of my own. End of 10th grade, perhaps? It was a wild marathon set, for a crowd of approximately 40 people, and not even everyone was into electronic muisc. Until that night that is. Tons of alcohol floating all around, people happy as hell that school was out and an all around great atmosphere. I mostly played harsh, cerebral and heavily tweaked out Detroit techno, making a grand climax by dropping Solar Quest's Harmonation. It was very fun, as I couldn't care less about impressing anybody with my alleged skills, so I was just dropping tunes I would have given my left arm to hear at a party The people loved it as well. I played one furious track after the other, so there was really no time to chill and stuff, and it seriously looked like everybody enjoyed the sheer energy pouring out of the speakers. A great night, it was!
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Er, I don't wanna fight over nothing, but back when Jesus Loves The Acid was released, the terminology you guys quite like using (like acid goa, acid techno, acid core, etc...) was nowhere to be found, heard and so forth. That's like saying Phuture's Acid Trax is old school acid techno. It ain't, me reckons. And one other interesting detail would be if I, for example, said the G.N.O.T.R. were more acid than... I dunno... A+E Dept, why and how would my personal interpretation of the acid sound, which may or may not concur with somebody else's, make me less informed about certain aspects of electronic music? The acid sound has been manifested through so many styles and moods, and the two extremes just to point how broad is the range it encompasses would be Plastikman (relatively subtle, monotonous & laid back) to uber intense, such as Zenith's 12" on IST Records... As for the topic, I added torrents of recommandations in a link posted somewhere around this thread.
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Why the pissed off smiley? Oopie's the man. He sells rarities as though it was an every day thing. After all, the more he sells, the quicker I can get my muzack from him, so yeah, er, Oopie, rip 'em off!!!
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1995) The Prodigy- Poison I saw this crazy ass video, with some weird guys going buck wild in this darkish room, screaming some cool words over amazing music. As far as I can remember, this was where it all started... 1996) Commander Tom- Am are eye? 1997) Speedy J- Pannik This is when it became more serious. After hearing this tune on some tape which somehow made it to my stereo, I decided to actually start the digging and get myself some nice music. 1998) Crop Circles- Lunar civilization This was the year when goa/psy trance parties came to be in Zagreb. Like hell can I remember if this one was even played by the local DJs back then, but I do know that I first heard it when goa trance was the electronic music sub genre to listen to. 1999) Umek- Lanicor About the time when Slovenia's finest, Umek, was the #1 DJ as far as I was concerend. His sets from back then are A class material, stuff legends are made out of. 2000) Laurent Garnier- The man with the red face Electronic music spiling its heart out through your speakers/headphones... 2001) Speed J- Krekc Once again, Jochem Paap was the guilty party, but fuck me... Krekc tore roofs off world wide. If you never heard it on a party, I don't think you've ever been to a club either. Shoot me if you want to, but it won't change anything 2002) Josh Wink- Superfreak (freak) Freak... Freak... Freak... Freak... Freak... Freak... 2003) Ethereal- Distant lights (2003 mix) Goa trance is back - big time too!!! 2004) Dreamfish- Hymn Much older than that, but I reckon this was the first time ever I really sat down, took my time, carefully listened through some ambient music, and finally realized how it's not all so bad. Actually, this is the year when I started appreciating stuff that went under 130BPM. 2005) Timo Maas FEAT. Kelis- Help me (Deep Dish remix) I don't even know how and why... I heard it in a record shop while looking for some new music to buy, and I immediately clicked to it... It's not even representative of the music I usually listen to, but I quite like it, even to this present day. I think it dates back to 2003 or something. Unsure though. 2006) Martin Buttrich- Full clip If only 6 other artists per year could make a track half as good as this, we'd be living in a world too good to be true. Tracks like this literary drop once a year tops, and impress everybody everywhere. Great! 2007) Astrancer- Dzog chen Welcome to the true future of goa trance. When one has balls, creativity and enough patience and will to carry it all out, voila, the track which IMHO stands at the forefornt of the so called newer artifacts of the rebirth of goa trance. 2008) ? Time will tell... P.S.: This not my favorites, best of, all time greatest list, etc. It is, well, an estimated time line or something...
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I listened to it and found it very worth keeping. It is a very well orchestrated and executed live act, packed with simultaneously intelligent and entertaining ideas. I'm gonna spread it around to some non-psy trance orientated friends. They might even like it. It's top drawer party music, so who knows?
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Tutankhamon 9000- Lost in luxor Artist: Tutankhamon 9000 Album: Lost in luxor Year: 2008 Label: Space Boogie Productions Catalog #: SBCD005 Format: CD, Album, Digipak Country: Finland Tracklisting: #01 Papyrus paranoya (07:24) #02 Lost in luxor (07:58) #03 Schkitzophrenic sphinxx (06:41) #04 Castration in Cairo (07:46) #05 My mummy is a mummy (06:43) #06 Dong in a bong (07:32) #07 Jesus vs shitler (07:48) #08 Nymphomaniac nefertiti (05:50) #09 Rambomized (05:33) #10 A bulk of hulks (07:53) #11 Tutankhamon 10000 (06:42) It has been two years now since D-A-R-K Records released a two track digital EP by this demented duo, consisting of Wille Waldemar Hermansson and Jarno Elias Wallasvaara, entitled Pharaos Phart, while Wille W. Hermansson raised one too many eyebrows last year with his Astroschnautzer debut album on Space Boogie Productions. That same label now brings us a full lenghth album by these suomi freaks! I won't do an in depth track by track review as it has already been sort of done in the artist/label promotion sub forum, but it's not even that necessary to break things down here. Bottom line is that Lost in luxor is right up my alley, tickling my spot in just about any imaginable way! Despite the funny as hell, and thus very conspicious, cover art and some pretty goofy track titles, there is nothing looney about the music. This is just great, eleven relentless tracks moving at supersonic speed and spanning over almost 78 minutes of time is about as good as it gets. All tracks, and I do mean each and every one, are loaded with high octane energy, while sick 'n' demented sounds protrude from all over the place, dribbling out of the speaker and drilling their way to the core of your head. The thing to keep in mind here is that this is *not* an album which is set to rediscover tap water, its main focus is aimed at keeping the crazy dancers four feet above sea level at any given time. There isn't much, if any diversity here as well, but what you do get is a massive onslaught of constantly accelerating audio wizardry, shifting and morphing FX, raw, bulldozer like party music which leaves no time for breaks and/or pauses. In fact, with the exception of A Bulk Of Hulks, no other track uses samples or vocal snippets of any kind. It's bound to set you on a roller coaster of a journey during the most intense part of the night. Dark, mental, twisted, uncompromising, groovy all the way through and cerebral full on psy trance from Finland which deserves to be exposed and heard. Play it loud. Dance to it hard. There's an acute instinct for detail these guys are obviously very well acquainted with, as each track provides quite a few particular and erratic sound patterns, with pretty unconventional arrangements of intractable layers, enabling the album to successfully dodge being pinned to the frequently emblematic and standardized niche of similar releases. Fans of hard as nails full on music and always dissimilar suomi sound, as well as fans/DJs of acoustic insanity should be on home ground with this top of the line party psy trance which never ventures far too deep in the realm of darkness, avoids stereotypes and steers clear of cheesy elements, and still not detaching itself from the constantly present psychadelia factor. Uncontrollable dance floor mayhem guaranteed.
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Don't sweat it. But why are you thanking me and reger for having an "constructive" debate over who was involved in the production process of the evergreen Mind Altering Drugs?