Guest Mike D Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 I just want to knwo why this music is considered so psychadelic?? It is very different from alot of average ambient releases, but Tales Of The Inexpressible follows the lines of well know world music groups it;s not funny. I mean, if we are have this, then why nor Deep Forest, Enigma, Enya and the likes??? I dunno, I find it to be quiet cheesey in someways and a major cash in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Planet JASE Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Hey, I like Deep Forest and Enigma, so... The reason why it exist on this site and the others don't is because they weren't released on a Psytrance Label. As to whether or not it's a cash in? Don't know. It's Simons' right to explore new musical tastes and if he does, it will still end up on this site because it's Simon Posford. And while Tales (and other future releases) may not truly be psychedelic they WILL however contain a certain amount of psychedelica because of his musical roots. Is this fair to other musicains that have psychedelic untones and do not appear on this site? No, but that's life, isn't it...? Just my thoughts. Planet JASE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strumpling Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Mike!!! MIKE MIKE MIKE!!!! PUMP up the volume or put on some headphones! Tales of the Inexpressible is one of the trippiest CDs I've ever heard He takes quite a few different musical influences, and then puts them under the influence! Every track makes it sound like I'm listening to some random album by some random artist all eft up on psychedelic drugs. This is why he used the world music. He wanted the feeling of listening to normal world music to be mixed in with the feeling of listening to psytrance. Allow me to point out that almost every track has small parts that break out of their world-music surroundings and start sounding almost as "psy-trancy" as Simon's Hallucinogen alter-ego. It's almost like he's making fun of other artists who are running out of things to do by just taking random types of music, morphing them into kick-ass alien-sounding psy-noises, then back to another random type of music, over and over and over again, in so many ways it's unbelievable. I'll bet he inspired so many artists out there to do so much more varied, new things; we'll see. Keep an eye on his buddies (doof, infected mushroom.........), I'm sure they'll start getting more open-minded as well. But not TOO open-minded, I hope: don't ask me about track 7 (once upon a sea of blissful awareness). I don't know what happened there. Bad simon! BAD! Oh, and if you didn't know, this CD was made for drugs. Take some magic mushrooms and listen to this and you'll most likely appreciate it much more. It is the PERFECT blend of "organic" (instrumental) and electronic music. What a jumbled, unorganized MESS I just spewed out. Hopefully you see where I'm comming from, and where we're headed. -=- Matt/Strumpling -=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hOAr Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 OH MAN ,, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST PSYCHEDELIC CDS IVE EVER HEARD. You need to listen deep!!! At frist to the naked ear this cd might sound very organic, but beneath it all there is a lot of psychedelic flating around everywhere. this is my general rule- and not everyone can do it. But to truly 'hear the psychedelics on a cd you should listen to it tripping. Now I know Ill get sht for saying this, but its true for me and for everyone else ive brought on the experience with me. I heard the Shpongle CD a million times. Then i heard it triping and I heard a whole new cd. It always hapens that I hear new things in a CD after I hear it on acid, but this was a fuking mindblow. Ive listned to everything on acid, from metal to floyd to techno to beatles to goa to whatever. Nothing has sounded more deeply psychedelic to me than the new Shpongle. Its almost fusterating to experience such things because they cannot be explained:)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lifeform Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 That's really psychedelic. There's lots of hidden acid tricks he pulls. Hard to hear with the sober ear though. The first cd is much more psychedelic, but tales ... is worthy of the psychedelic label, i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike d Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Ok, I have gone and re-;istened to it and do find it quiet psychadelic, but still not within the realms of what I consider psychadelic trance. And no, I never do drugs due to a bad trip when i was younger that fucked me big time. Simon Posford is the master of psychedlic tripout music, I love most Hallucinogen, but Shopingle must not be it for me. I do love deep forest, enigma and all the world music groups, and i gues it is a fact that they are not on psy label names and therefore not reviewed on this age. Thankyou for not getting angry at me for my point of view, and I appreciate all of yours, Mike D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rx7style Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Mike D -- I don't mean to be a jerk here, but are you a musician? I don't think you are, and using CDJ's with a automatic beat matcher doesn't count. If you don't understand why that music is amazing or psychedelic, it's because your mind does not have the ability to comprehend such music. Can you honestly say that Enya sounds like Shpongle, in a psychedelic sense? If so, you are musically deaf. You have no ability to conceive music the way the artist intended -- and that's okay, but I guess you should do something else to occupy your time. I mean after all, you didn't buy the new Shpongle album and don't plan to. I can't believe you have the audacity to berate someones VERY hard work, all because your musical comprehension is the shits... you just don't have the right as far as I'm concerned. Sorry about that: I'm not meaning to be a jerk, but your writings have no validity, and thus I'm openly expressing that. Please write something more constructive next time, and hopefully you will only talk about artists that you've SUPPORTED with an album purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike d Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Actually I am a guitarist, I have played in rock, country, metal and also a psychadelic rock band(s). I also have both shpongle albums, and have had for a relativley long time. I also have the eclisp cd. Also you knobhead, I have not personally insulted Sim Psoford, I acutally siad that he is a great musician, and I have much respect for his owrk. I'd just like to point out here that the us of to much psychadelic substances leads to an agressive attitude and a lakc of full thinking. This has been proven and I did research during some psychiatric work i was doing with my doctor brother. Goddamn, if you don't like my opinion then fine but you do not need to insult me!! When was the last time you went to a classical music concerrt?? Last werek for me coz i love it!! When was the last time you listened to something other than goa or psy trance?? I do all the time because it does not rule my world!! Good on Simon Posford and good luck to hime!! I have nothing agaianst him and would very much pay to see him perform live!! I really am beginning to give up on some of the twats here!! to quote my second post here: "Simon Posford is the master of psychedlic tripout music, I love most Hallucinogen, but Shopingle must not be it for me" YTherefore i admit that shpongly isn;t for me!! Rx7style or whatever you call yourself, take some time to come down off the drugs and teturn to normality!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike d Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Oh and using cdj's with a auomatic beatmatche does count!! I have asked a number of prominent melbourne dj;s on this and they all said they wished such things had existed when they began djing!! As far as i am concerned, to get so up tight you must be one hell of a fucking jerkoff!! Why dont you go suck your fuckign cock you piece of dog s.hit?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eshanti Brahman Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 I do understand people who might find parts of the album cheezy. The track with female singing is not cheese,its very subtle nice song but frankly boring. Simon uses the sound from ethnic/world music in a broader context this time but the wonderful thing is that it is great music for great people. "TOTI" has sounds from many parts of the world and he makes great folkmusic if u wanna see it that way. But thats not the end. The music is skillfully made,the construction of the sound and atmosphere is awesome and the hardcore trance guy will find this usual Simon "twistedness" here;it is beautful but in the same way its twisted and sick. If you ask me about anything concerning this years summer,I will pirmarily think of "Tales of the Inexpressible." All my good memories are linked to this cd from last summer and I even remember me and my mother sitting outside and listening to it and she really liked it (maybe except the Terence McKenna sample hehe). I dont think its overrated,you have to be extremely talented to make such an album whether you are Simon Posford,Enigma,Yanni,some fluteguy from the Andes, a latino guy from Puerto Rico or anyone else. Just enjoy the wide specter of Posfords musical talents. Why must we always link use of drugs to everytime mentioning the word "Shpongle". I have never taken mushrooms but I still enjoy it. Maybe I'd enjoy it better on shrooms or acid but who cares. Thats a another discussion. Anyway,I am glad that everybody seems to appreciate Simon Posford wheter they like Shpongle or not. Zzzzz...............zzzz............*burp*...............zzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rx7style Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 "I'd just like to point out here that the us of to much psychadelic substances leads to an agressive attitude and a lakc of full thinking. This has been proven and I did research during some psychiatric work i was doing with my doctor brother." "As far as i am concerned, to get so up tight you must be one hell of a fucking jerkoff!! Why dont you go suck your fuckign cock you piece of dog s.hit??" "take some time to come down off the drugs and teturn to normality!!" Geez, I don't even need to write anything -- you make yourself look like such a fool without any assistance from me! As far as your musical background and other things you've said, you just sound like a big LIAR to me. Lies. If you own the new Shpongle album, could you please describe what the BACK of the inside cover looks like, and what's written on it? I think you're full of @!#$. Oh, and you're telling ME to stay away from psychedelics -- I'm studying for my Mechanical Engineering finals right now, so you don't have ANY fuckin' idea what you're talking about. Shut the f*ck up you little brat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rx7style Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Oh yeah, and maybe you should come down off your drugs before you write in a forum dude. Your writing looks like that of a 10 year old childs. I can only laugh at people like you... and I'm certainly done speaking with you, so flame all you want and embarass yourself some more, but I won't be speaking with you ever again. Goddamned waste of oxygen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike d Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Oh sorry, forgot you were so smart. Ok, I'm a liar. But I actually have finished high school, i am studying at uni now, i have my licences a girlfriend of 3 years, two jobs and i do play guitar you twat!! i have had lessons for a few years, i have played in groups and i am also taking up bass guitar!! the back cover of the latest shpoingle cd consists of: a full moon over sdome mountyains with a sunset. It has tracklisting and times in orange writing, it has the new twisted records logo, a barcode and TWSCD13. On the inside of the booklet it has written: "Your body is a nightclub, as well as a temple..Love is a many shpongled thing...Thru Portals +Thresholds - A magic carpet ride around the world in a tea daze...Like the universe sitting on youre face..plugged into gaia's brain, in a wyrd dripping cavernous labrynth...following the string of semi-madness...brain gymnastics, sonic elastics, frying the minds circuits" "The psychadelic circus is in town..shamens, pagans, pixies+elves, wizards, lizards, physicians + magicians, visible language, visual music, the carnival of the divine imagination" nuff said go shove it i wirte like a ten year old, so what??? Explain then how I got almost top marks for english at school??? How come i have always been numer one at spelling?? this is a forum, people can understand if i am typing quickly i make heaps of mistakes, i am not som geek who can type perfectly!! you are so pathetic!! what is your problem?? if simon posford or any members of shpongle have a problem with what i have said about my views on the album then they can contact me by all means!!! You know what?? I just give up, write whatever you want about me email whatever!! Congratulations one studying so hard at uni, when you get your pice of paper and a good job, you can feel so proud!! i hopeit means you have found yourself!! I bet you make you mommy and daddy proud too, if only they knew about the drugs and music youlistne to, coz mine do and i don't care!! I know who i am, where i am and where i am going!! I don't need a degree to make me feel proud, i haven't studied now for 3 years, only this year have i gone back to study, i have taken the chance to travel, to work in different fields and to explore this life!! Have sitting behind some desk for the wrest of your life sucking cocks so you get a higher oay rate!! Lets all go conform to society and forget what lifeis about!! forget the fun, i mean, wow, i listen to psytrance so i am just like so fucking cool!! I am a cut above tha rest for sure!! get over it!! are you a musician?? What conservatory are you at to jumpo down my thrat and make accusations?? What fucking god are you to call me a liar?? you say i write like a ten year old, i behave badly, wll come spank me and teahc me to write properly smart arse!! I'll do what i want how i want and when i want @!#$ you cunt!!! hehehe, go on, kick me off the forum children, like i give a @!#$, i;ve had enuff this place sucks my penis big time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbe Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Mike D : I can't beleive you said that !!! Shpongle music is a gift from gods..it cames from the space..raja & Simon are genius...It's the most psychedelic music ever done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike d Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 I never said it wasn't good music!! I just said it wasn't for me!!!!!!! just like intact instinct isn't for me either!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tomek Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 So aside from the quarelling going on here guys I have to agree totally with Mike's first opinion. I also don't know what the big deal is with the shpongle album. Anybody who listens to anything else than psy trance I think would agree. There is nothing new or revolutionary in this release. It is psychedelic but it's nothing new musically. I'm sure for a lot of people who never listen to anything else it's a master piece. (no offense) Anyway this is MY opinion and I hope that others can respect that. Tomek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kriz Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 sphongle is one of the best psychedelic releases out there, if you dont hear it you dont know what psychedelic is ... drop and listen to it ... peace people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Wow! Tomek from Tromesa ?! This whole conversation looks a bit stupid. I mean they both are right and wrong at the same time: mike d - I think shpongle's new CD is very psychedelic - it's not new musically (like Tomek above said), but if Simon uses guitar or saxophone in his track, he not just samples it, but also process this sample through many effects, to make it sound psychedelic - check Dorset Perceptions saxophone or trumpets in Sea of Blissfull Awareness. These are well known instruments, but they sound rather strange... Not to even mention weird and acidy background sounds he uses. I think this is why this record is considered psychedelic - it's world music, done with psy-trance / ambient attitude! Enigma is beautifull. Shpongle is beautifully psychedelic. rx7style - I agree that Shpongles CD requires good and trained ear to hear all the subtle psychedelic things, and probably some musical / engineering education to appreciate all the work put into it, but it's not a reason to insult somebody because he doesn't hear what you hear... Also I don't understand how can you excuse your use of drugs by heavy examines at school! I finished all my schools (including high school and university - banking and finance, with lots of maths) without any drugs and I can be proud of this. How can you be proud of yourself is beyond my comprehension! And don't tell me that everybody is doing this, because that is not true... peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slidingtrancer Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 'Blissful awareness' is beautiful. It pictures a girl by a lake looking over the serenity of the water, the calmth, the elegance. It's a pure masterpiece, I don't see why people can't grasp that. The singing maybe takes something away from the instrumental part, but just use headphones and HEAR the incredible trick he pulled with the voices. This is SO difficult to do.... The whole cd is wonderfull, just put it away for 2 weeks and then listen again, .... I haven't got words for it... The song I least like is Shpongleyes ( yes I LIKE room 23, nice jazzy/psy stuff...) and even that song is nice. Anyway, I respect ur opinion Mike D.... some people just don't get the same thrill, it's ok.... I have that with Tandu.... ( I'm dying to get rid of that cd), I just don't get it. It aint that well-produced or good, still its considered a classic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 okay mike d, no need to write anything more here, you've already shown how childish you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 btw. fully agree with slidingtrancer on "Blissfull..." - it's one of the best tracks on this CD and the voice sample for me is much more better than the one used in "Around the World..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Indidginus Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Come on chaps - maybe we can all just agree to disagree? There's no need to get so aggressive with each other... So repeat after me "Omdanambamdabodanambam, Omdanambamdabodanambam, Omdanambamdabodanambam, Posford, Enya or some Andes pan pipe player, it does not matter..." until the anger subsides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 tsss... Mike D, what's up with your language man... as a forum moderator you shouldn't blame people like that... btw, I do NOT agree with you... are you gonna say now that i'm a worthless piece of sh!t... If you keep on acting like that I recommend you to go back to your country band... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 It seem that some of you so called "open minded" people have such a hard time not to accept when other people have their own opinion...... get a life!!!!!! I am so tired of watching people attack eachother in this forum...what a bunch of hippocridts.....You claim to be in a scene that accept individuality - but infact you want to force your own opinions down on everyone else. I might not agree with Mike but he is intitled to his opinion. If you don't agree with him then tell him in a nice way. By the way it is also sad to see this scene's "groupies" think that some musicians are gods.... That was never the intention of this scene......wake up!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeff Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 To go a step further : I'm under the impression that some people here deem Psy trance should only be listened to by an intellectual elite. Remember for example the remarks like "I can hear sonic subtleties that you mere mortals can't even figure out, I'm so superior !". I'm not a musician, and I'm sure this is pretty right. But why, oh why use such a scorning language ? You're right Elysium : at the beginning, Psy was about tolerance and respect. Now this form of music is used by certain guys as a way of bringing forth their alleged superior capabilities. How sad... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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