Will Psychedelic become commercial??

[Guest mijis]

forgot this one : trance nation america cd 2 mixed by Jimmy van M , two psy tracks mixed in his set cass - opera and atmos - klein aber doctor

[Guest DeepKick]

agree with russ.

 

i like the way how you explain japanese scene with britney example. lol

its very easy for those who arent in japan to understand what is happening in japanese scene now.

[Guest suma]

Answer is simple:

Either you like or you don't.Come on do you really thing "you" people should decide who can go to party or who can not.Don't worry so much that there is people that do not like at all, psytrance...or trance or ..these and that.

People should have the freedom to enjoy and anyway there is always money involve.

Lets be hyppiiiiiiiii

: ) Don't forget, Peace and love

[Guest psy-clone]

I really agree with russ's post. I am not from Japan, I am from America but I know that what he says is true. The same thing is true in Israel and to a lesser degree in some other places. So to answer the question of whether Psytrance will become commercial: Yes it will because it already has! However it is only commercial in a very limited sense. It has yet to make a real impact on global culture as a whole. It has yet to impinge itself on the global psyche the way other forms of music have. And I don't think that it ever will to the same degree unless the whole of human culture makes some massive changes. I think that for most people in most parts of the world Psytrance is just not compatible with their current way of being. The fact that Psytrance has become popular in a few isolated places of the world I don't believe is any real indication of some approaching global trend. Psytrance is something different and it just so happens that the conditions were right in a few places for it to take hold. For instance in Japan it has always been different. Japan has always been more open to new influences. If it has merit then the Japanese tend to accept it and move about to integrate it into their social fabric. My Japanese friends 6 or 7 years ago explained to me and shared with me things that were going on in Japan. At the time I was really into all sorts of electronic music and was really amazed to learn that in Japan it was already recognized in the mainstream society. So it has been like this in Japan for a while, a whole generation grew up to the sounds of Yellow Magic Orchestra and so the whole dynamics of popular culture in Japan is completely different. There are a whole different but simmilar set of conditions that set the stage for Psytrance in Israel. I don't want to go into all of it but some of it just has to do with chance (like everything in this world). The Israeli mentality coupled with the burden of constant warfare and strife and the escape that the depth of Psytrance provides explains at least part of the reason why it is popular there. Anyway, things are different in every different place of the world and I don't think that the conditions are right in most of the world for Psytrance to be accepted on a large scale. On the other hand MTV and the mainstream music that it propegates are compatible with most people in most countries and that is why it has become a global phenomenon. I don't think there is that risk with Psytrance.

-Peace-

[Guest bugbread]

Well, psy-clone, I like your way of thinking and your way of expressing yourself, but I think your friend may have given you the wrong idea. Techno only became big here about two years ago. I can't say EXACTLY why, but it started with epic trance, which got big as an underground phenomenon her (by underground phenomenon I mean that a lot of people were into it, and clubs were packed, but anyone who didn't have friends in the scene wouldn't know about it, and there was no mainstream coverage). Then Hamasaki Ayumi did some techno remixes and started to get people with no previous connection into the music. Since both Epic trance and psy-trance often get shortened to "trance", there ended out being a lot of people going to trance shows and not realizing it was psy. They surely realized the music was different, but by the time they had entered the club, and probably taken a few pills, they enjoyed themselves anyway. Add to that that every week there were free parties in Yoyogi park in downtown Tokyo (now closed down by the police), and that half the time was epic and half was psy, and you had a lot of people listening to psy even if they didn't leave the house intending to. That's when psy began to get really big. Now Epic is still bigger than Psy, as they play epic on TV commercials and have lots of mainstream coverage. Psy still doesn't get talked about in TV shows (like epic does occassionally), but it's a HUGE underground success. So, huge acts come to town, events are really big, etc. Still, your average person on the street is still 90 times more likely to know System F than Hallucinogen.

 

True, YMO and some other bands considered "techno" are really popular (Denki Groove is an obvious one) have been mainstream, but they were DEFINITELY the exception, not the rule, until around 1999.

 

So it becoming popular in Japan mainly comes down to two things: a huge drug boom and Hamasaki Ayumi...

 

Japan in general is extremely musically conservative, and the music industry even more conservative. The good side of this is that it makes the true Japanese underground more creative (think Japanoise and Boredoms side bands).

 

Sorry, I realize that's not your main point, but I just felt like expounding a bit.